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Adrenaline_junkie
Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2017 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So far the racing is great but I'm finding the broadcast quality of fans choice.TV to be less than optimal.
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2017 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2017 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The video quality was the worst. It kept hanging. Very hard to watch. Cool that Indian went 1-2 though. Not bad for a first outing..
More to come from the "Wrecking Crew" I'm sure.
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2017 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well; now that the race is over, I feel comfortable saying that Fans Choice TV has gone backwards from the level of quality they displayed last year. Not that that level was exceedingly good; they were mediocre at best. But their race coverage for the TT tonight rates a D+ at best.
The sound was not in synch with the video and the video was not in synch with the lap counter. I was seeing Lap 16 positions while Scotty Deubler was describing the action on Lap 14. Sometimes, the video even matched what he was describing.

However; in spite of the coverage bordering on low dollar amateur, it's still better than waiting for a page 78 synopsis in Cycle News next Tuesday.

I hope that when NBC shows the TT this coming summer, they can put things together and produce race coverage that at least looks professional.

In the meantime, my suspicions were validated; the Indian FTR is going to embarrass the Harley XG750s until Vance & Hines pulls off a miracle. And the Kawasakis ARE a force to be reckoned with. The Yamahas were fairly quick, also.

I think that the first two places at Springfield will be owned by Indian and if Baker wasn't injured too badly, maybe all three podium spots. That FTR is Harley's Wake Up call. I hope their rectal occulitis hasn't progressed to the point that they don't see it.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2017 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think you are accurate in your predictions. I must say, it was nice being able to see it as opposed to not. Thanks for turning me on to it. I may have to make my way to the Springfield in 2018.
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Snacktoast
Posted on Friday, March 17, 2017 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the Indian FTR is going to embarrass the Harley XG750s

I think you're right.

Does anyone know the homologation rules for an engine in the series?
That Indian engine is a purpose built race engine - nothing is production on it at all. Polaris bought the company that designed it with the sole purpose of designing the engine to go flat track racing.
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Adrenaline_junkie
Posted on Friday, March 17, 2017 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The more intense the action got the blurrier the picture got. Terrible video quality. The Indians were amazing. I want a street version.
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, March 17, 2017 - 07:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Win on Thursday, sell on Friday!

If a Harley had won (or even been in contention for the lead), the XG 750 would have a lot of interested people looking at it seriously today.
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46champ
Posted on Friday, March 17, 2017 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am beginning to believe that Vance and Hines is the problem. They have been working on the XG for over a year and this is what they have? They would have been better off with XRs. I know they win in pro stock racing but that is because they write most of the rules and they dictate what other people can run.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Friday, March 17, 2017 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm actually going to the Peoria TT races this summer! I haven't Benz down there for a race in over 10 years because I didn't care to watch the singles run! I'm an old school fan of the big twins racing!
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Ffbuell1
Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It will be an interesting season to say the least. When I first heard Indian was going into flat track racing I said they are going to be a real threat to Harley, especially after seeing the write up on the development of the new engine in Cycle World magazine. Now I know Harley has had a long time success in flat track and even in the eighties in short track with the 2 stroke MX 250 engine .but in all the years I have been involved with motorcycles regardless of what H.D. advertising has said about racing (that they have a proud long tradition) it seems to me racing to they Harley brass is treated like a bastard step child .so if they are serious and want to hold on to the only thing they have been successful at they had better give it all they got or Indian and the other companies will truly embarress them
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Adrenaline_junkie
Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I always thought that Harley had a long tradition of getting everyone else's equipment banned from any form of racing they wanted to dominate. Maybe I'm off base though.
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Tootal
Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where's Honda? I remember many years ago watching Bubba Shobert just blow the HD's away until somebody ran over him at the finish! He was amazing to watch. His throttle control and keeping his feet on the pegs were awesome. I know they changed the rules and had Honda restrict their intakes and they still won but soon dropped out of racing. They always felt that Harley forced the rule changes
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46champ
Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What most people forget is when Honda had to put the restrictors in the Harleys had to put the same ones in.
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Crusty
Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2017 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nobody ran over Bubba Shobert. At the end of the GP race at Laguna Seca, he was congratulating Eddie Lawson and ran into a rider who had stopped to do a burn out for the crowd.

People think that the rules were changed to penalize the Hondas, but nobody remembers that Honda got caught cheating. Their bikes were under weight. Honda claimed that the scale used to weigh the bikes was inconsistent, and Cycle News even ran a story backing it up. I remember talking with JB Norris who was there, a few years afterwards. JB swore that the scale was certified. It was a move very similar to when Suzuki got caught using a special crankshaft in their GSXRs. Suzuki took a stock crank off the assembly line and sent it to a testing lab. The lab said it was identical to a stock crank. However, the crank that was in the race engine wasn't even visually close to the same.

When you get caught cheating, try to shift the blame to the people who caught you.

Back to the Honda RS 750s, Shobert kept winning until Bill Werner found a few more horsepower in the XR 750 and Scotty Parker raised his level of racecraft to the point that damned near nobody could beat him; especially on the Miles. He trounced Bubba Shobert in the last half dozen races of 1988.
Honda pulled out of Dirt Track the next year.
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