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Sifo
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2017 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)











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Graeme1203
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2017 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Many years ago, when being taught about politics, it was shown to me how from the far left to the far right it was not a straight line, but a circle. When you stand back and look at the ideologies at a high level, they start to meld, become more similar than different.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2017 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Many years ago, when being taught about politics, it was shown to me how from the far left to the far right it was not a straight line, but a circle.

I would agree in theory. In reality, at least in the US at this point, the right is light years away from closing that circle. The left has pretty much done it's part though.
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Crusty
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2017 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Sifo
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Sifo
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2017 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Sifo
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Airbozo
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2017 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhLYaCOiK1M
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2017 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Sifo
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2017 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you think weapons or martial arts are what is needed to defend against evil... you're not even close.

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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)







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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The legal argument that if a company bribes the President & his Party that it's legal to force you at gunpoint, ( fines, arrest and jail.... ) to buy that company's product, is morally rejected by me.
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Bartimus
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sumos on bikes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-wOp11FsF0&featur e=youtu.be
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1313
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now that's funny!

What's even funnier is that I took a few pics of a much more accessorized version of the bikes used in the video nearly 1 year ago in Istanbul.


Pulsar 1


Pulsar 2


Pulsar 3
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)







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Sifo
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Two_seasons
Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Abortion starts with a cold heart. After the deed is done, it then starts to consume the mind!
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Airbozo
Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Only if you have no concept of what is going on.
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Airbozo
Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Like when _viable_ life actually starts?
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Like when a unique set of DNA becomes a living cell?
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Airbozo
Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Living cells are not always viable organisms.

They require much more than single cells to survive.

Ask the living cells that just got scraped off my knuckle. Oh wait...
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is the right discussion, and we shouldn't entrench.

So, is someone getting CPR or on a breathing machie "viable"?

Is somebody in a wheelchair, who would never be able to hunt or farm without a lot of industrialized assistance "viable"?

Is a 1 year old baby, who would be dead in 36 hours were it not for constant maintenance, "viable"?

Is an egg fertilized in a test tube but never implanted "viable"?

Is a sperm and an egg, both still viable, but not yet joined, "viable"?

Does a fertile male standing next to a fertile female who have not had sex result in something "viable"?

I've tried to be openminded about these things and get to an intellectually honest answer. It's hard, but there are a few logical places where you could join the line.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The very term, "viable" is germane to the discussion only in the logic of the morality of the definitions.

It IS part of the overall subject of life and the morality of it's preservation and taking.

I won't discuss my views here, wrong thread, & don't claim to have the answers to the ethical quandary.

Anyone have a rabbit with a waffle pic? : )
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2017 - 02:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Graeme1203
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2017 - 05:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

'Anyone have a rabbit with a waffle pic? : )'
As requested

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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2017 - 06:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you!
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2017 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If they aren't viable, why do they need to be destroyed?



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