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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2017 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Then we need wholesale arrests and prosecution of anyone who violates the constitution.

(maybe some of the "de-regulation" work can start on the legal system as well? Close some loopholes?)

Arrest the farmer who harbors and hires illegals.

Arrest the illegals.

Arrest anyone who trafficks or shelters or hires illegals.

Don't jail them here...I shouldn't have to pay for their three hots and a cot. Send them all to the country of origin.

As noted in the meme above..."reunite their families". And if they want to come back...they can do it legally.

Or we'll send 'em back again. Once.

Third strike? They go closer to an arctic circle.

The definition of insanity is repeating the same action over and over again, expecting different results.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2017 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry...the meme I mention is in the meme thread.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2017 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/02/25/townhall- msm-ignoring-trumps-sex-trafficking-busts/

A buddy was going off to me about all the pedophile arrests. His opinion was that a pervasive child rape culture was unraveling under "thousands" of arrests and that THIS was the true source of rage for the Media against Donald. Sure the usual Party bias was there but the murderous rage was from child molesters scattered through and influential in CNN etc.

I figured this was fake news or the conspiracy nut channel story of the day. After all he'd read 84 Lumber stock had dropped & there is none. Privately owned.

Turns out the charges against Milo are the standard "blame republicans for crimes we committed" tactic of the "transference" crowd. That total childish belief that others MUST think Exactly like you do since you literally cannot imagine any other beliefs.

So now I'm a believer. They, the self righteous media, are on the side of child rape and in many cases, are pedophile.

Otherwise they would have reported the arrest of their friends and would not accuse their enemies of these crimes. Proof & Proof.

As a women's libber ( the libbers left me..... ) counter revolutionary, hawk, who tends Jacksonian, I'm going to have to censor my opinion. Impaling pedophiles just seems a natural to me.
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Fb1
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2017 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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More Important Than The Usual Sunday Talk – Stephen Mnuchin and Maria Bartiromo
By Sundance, 02/26/2017

This is a Sunday discussion that’s more important than the traditional Sunday “blather." Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin appears on Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartiromo to discuss President Trump economics.

Rejoice all ye econ and political geeks. Massive amounts of wholesome insight within the interview as Secretary Mnuchin discusses the budget, budgetary priorities, and yes, budgetary “goals,” to include entitlement priority retention. Mnuchin also discusses regulatory reform, financial reform and the federal reserve.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJO_KoEMLuM


Just like General Kelly (DHS), General Mattis (DoD) and T-Rex (DoS), Steve Mnuchin at Treasury is exactly the right guy for this intensely consequential moment in time. I shall frame the first $1 bill I discover with his signature.

Source, more: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/26/mo re-important-than-the-usual-sunday-talk-stephen-mn uchin-and-maria-bartiromo/
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Fb1
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2017 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bois3VIKcHE
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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2017 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FB's posts are Flash, and I don't do Flash.
I will say, impaling is only OK if it's slow. gravity. days...
Otherwise, draw and quarter. fast. with clydesdales...

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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2017 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll put you down for impaling. You can do it in rows for cinematic effect. : )

Clydesdales must be expensive. I don't remember them in a super bowl commercial this year. Remember, conservatives care about deficits.
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Court
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2017 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Remember, conservatives care about deficits.

True that.

I think I read the amount that the National Debt has GONE DOWN, in the first month President Trump has been in office.

Wow.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2017 - 07:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yep, that was earlier in this thread.

A $12B DEcrease.

I think that's a good start : )
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2017 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm sure it's the amount of the deficit spending, not the actual debt. Reducing the debt would take a biblical scale miracle.
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Court
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2017 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Reducing the debt would take a biblical scale miracle.

Part of the problem, in the past, has been that kind of thinking . . that "there's really nothing we can do anyway" sort of pseudo-surrender.

Frankly . . . there is an odd parallel to personal finances and the science of paying off things like credit cards. . . . you start somewhere and you keep after it . . . all the time realizing that even small increments are progress.

$12,000,000,000 . . . . granted . . . is less than a days interest on the debt that, over the past 8 years, has risen more than under ALL PRIOR PRESIDENTS combined.

But . . I'd suggest . . you look past the nominal amount and focus more on the pattern of behavior.

President Trump, love him or hate him (I count myself in both camps, simultaneously) has started to turn an aircraft carrier around.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2017 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445237/swede n-crime-rates-statistics-immigration-trump-fox-new s

One of the fake news reports of Trump's reporting fake news is the Swedish crime problem.

Dig deeper and you see Sweden has no statistics on crime. They don't want them. The truth is unpleasant so they refuse to look. Won't even allow others to look.

This happened this last decade in England. Under pressure from the politicians, the police quit reporting a lot of crimes. They take the statement of the beating victims then throw them away. Don't bother investigating a lot of crimes. So the reported statistics look good.

As always the poor are most harmed. A rich guy reports a mugging, the cops respond. Otherwise he tells his friends and the newspapers. A poor women gets beaten for her purse and no one cares. She has no social power to affect elections, so let her get raped or crippled, no big deal.

( the above complaints about England are from English police )
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Fb1
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2017 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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President Trump Meets With Healthcare CEO’s In Advance of Congressional Speech
By Sundance, 02/27/2017

Today President Donald Trump met with healthcare executives in advance of a repeal and replacement process ongoing for 0bamaCare. It is anticipated that President Trump will outline some of the healthcare measures in his upcoming speech tomorrow night to a joint session of congress.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjp0JamIZaA

Source: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/27/pr esident-trump-meets-with-healthcare-ceos-in-advanc e-of-congressional-speech/
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Fb1
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2017 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Listen to about the first six and a half minutes of today's White House press briefing; it's Director of the OMB Mick Mulvaney letting American know that a federal budget is finally happening. Mr. Mulvaney is very impressive:


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Sean Spicer White House Press Briefing – February 27th 2017
By Sundance, 02/27/2017

Press Secretary Sean Spicer delivers the White House Press Briefing for Monday February 27th, 2017. The briefing begins with an outline presentation by Mick Mulvaney, Director of the Office and Management Budget (OMB), giving a high level review of an upcoming President Trump budget.

President Trump also announced today that [procedurally] a congressional 0bamaCare repeal and replacement bill MUST come before any tax reform plan is presented.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd1abkaj0I4

Source: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/27/se an-spicer-white-house-press-briefing-february-27th -2017-video/
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2017 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good lord those reporters are dumb as fenceposts.

"This is a top-line budget. We will be presenting a proposal to all department heads to find out where and how to best meet these top-line numbers. We plan to have a full budget <at a later date - he said the date but I don't recall...March? May?>, with all the details in place at that time".

"How are you going to do this/that/those?" "You say you're going to replenish the military, can we have the details?" "How are you going to cut such a large double-digit percentage, can you tell us how you are going to do that?"

SMH.

(Message edited by ratbuell on February 27, 2017)
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Fb1
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2017 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We plan to have a full budget (at a later date - he said the date but I don't recall...March? May?)

Director Mulvaney expects to have final budget blueprint to Congress by March 16th, with the full budget implemented in first part of May.

Outstanding.
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Fb1
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2017 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

More winning:


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Senate Confirms Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross 72 – 27
By Sundance, 02/27/2017

Wilbur Ross as Commerce Secretary will have the lead position in renegotiating trade deals, including NAFTA. When Candidate Trump said “we have some real killers for negotiators, we just never use them," he could have been specifically describing Wilbur Ross.

Ross amassed a fortune as a private equities investor playing financial chess amid the tilted globalist board created by anti-American progressive trade policies supported by Tom Donohue and the U.S. CoC.

Having Ross in the cabinet is like hiring a Ty Cobb-type veteran cat burglar to install your security system; Skippy The Wolverine knows all the angles:


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(NYT) By a vote of 72 to 27, the Senate confirmed Mr. Ross, who has already been advising President Trump on economic policy and helping him to craft ways to rewrite the tax code. A renegotiation of NAFTA is expected to be Mr. Ross’ top priority when he takes over the job; during his confirmation hearing in January, he warned that “all aspects” of the agreement between the United States and its northern and southern neighbors are on the table.

With the confirmation of Mr. Ross, the most important members of Mr. Trump’s economic team are [now] in place... (read more)





Source, more: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/27/se nate-confirms-commerce-secretary-wilbur-ross-72-27 /


^ This is incredibly good news for MAGA.
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Court
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2017 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Having someone in The White House who does what they promised . . . . well, it's throwing the entire damn system out of kilter.

We have dialed in cultural windage to account for the lies that have come out of Washington in the past.

The winds of change are . . .frankly . . . refreshing.
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Macbuell
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I feel like Trump is rewriting the rules in Washington and that's why he is getting push back from all sides including establishment Republicans. He's threatening their way of life and they are fighting anyway they can. The Oligarchy does NOT want the status quo to change. That Oligarchy includes Dems, Reps, the media, and the power brokers behind the scenes.

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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 07:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's exactly right. He's doing exactly what he promised in his campaign - and this topic is "returning the country and its government to the people". There's the wall. There's budget reform. There's deregulation. There's military replenishment. Manufacturing. It's all happening, just like he said it would. He's keeping his campaign promises (scary in itself when you consider the political culture) - now all those promises have to WORK. I think they will. I truly believe in his politics and his reasoning. Still think he's more of a blowhard than he really needs to be but hey...I can live with that if everything else works as planned.
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 08:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

[Trump is] threatening their way of life and they are fighting anyway they can.

I just ran across the following piece; it's a fascinating read. I don't have an original source link, but I bet it'd be easy enough to find. EDIT: found the link: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-27/plot-holes-michael-flynn-affair

This answers...perhaps...many questions as to why "they are fighting anyway they can":

quote:

Plot Holes – The Michael Flynn Affair

Tyler Durden’s picture
by Tyler Durden
Feb 28, 2017 2:00 AM

The Michael Flynn Affair is one of those movies where you figure out a jumble of things that don’t make sense as you walk out of the theater.

There has been a deluge of articles about the Michael Flynn affair from an array of political and ideological vantage points, and SLL has reposted some of them. What’s lacking are coherent and cohesive explanations for what would be, if this were a novel or movie, gaping plot holes. The upshot of many commentators is that Trump has underestimated the Deep State, he’s floundering, and so on. This article takes the opposite tack, out of innate contrariness and because President Trump has been so consistently underestimated by both friends and foes. [emphasis mine - FB]

Why was Michael Flynn cashiered? The administration’s story is that he talked with a Russian diplomat and mentioned lifting sanctions, then lied about his conversations to Vice President Pence. What’s become the conventional subtext is that the intelligence agencies have launched a “soft coup” against Trump, he has been significantly weakened, and the Deep State has scored a major victory.

Plot hole: if Trump had wanted to keep Flynn, he could have kept him and rode out the media firestorm. Blogger The_Real_Fly has suggested there was either a prearranged plan for Flynn to make an early exit, or Trump did an about-face, determined Flynn was not a good fit, and decided to get rid of him. A subplot hole: Flynn, an intelligence veteran, undoubtedly knew his phone was tapped. Either he knowingly said what he said to set a trap, or when the Washington Post story surfaced, Trump saw his chance and got rid of Flynn. He has demonstrated a cold-blooded capacity to quickly cut his losses: “Your fired!” It’s telling that Flynn’s replacement, H.R. McMaster, authored "Dereliction of Duty: Lyndon Johnson, Robert McNamara, The Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Lies that Led to Vietnam." This looks like a classic Trump double down, replacing a maverick the Deep State didn’t like with a bigger one they’ll like even less.

Whatever the real story, Trump has gained valuable leverage on the intelligence agencies. Somebody leaked an intelligence agency transcript of Flynn’s call to the Washington Post, and that’s illegal. Just before he left office, President 0bama relaxed limits on the NSA’s dissemination of its information to other intelligence agencies, the FBI, and the Drug Enforcement Administration. 0bama probably thought he’d be turning those agencies into a collective sieve of untraceable leaks that would plague Trump, but this may backfire spectacularly. With the new rules, the illegal leak could conceivably come from any agency that has access to NSA data. The Trump Justice Department now has carte blanche to investigate them all, unless the agency responsible coughs up the leaker to protect itself and the other agencies.

A gaping plot hole: the Deep State’s stratagems scream weakness, not the strength so many are attributing to it. The Deep State likes to stay in the shadows, zealously protecting its power by shielding it from public view. Trump has forced it into the open, and it doesn’t adjust well to the light. It has resorted to tissue-thin stories planted in the captive media that speak of assessments and opinions, but don’t offer source material that’s supposedly the basis of those subjective judgments.

The Flynn disclosure was in the same vein; the original transcript on which the Post’s story was based has not been made public. This tees it up for Trump to lambaste the mainstream media and intelligence agencies, which he has done repeatedly and to great effect. He was in rare form at his recent press conference. You only plant stories in media organs nobody trusts, sourced to anonymous operatives within an intelligence community nobody trusts, obviously breaking the law, and setting yourself up for abuse from the president, because that’s all you’ve got.

The whole Russian story reeks of “Desperation.” It is flimsy and flimsier still is the rationale offered for the Deep State’s dogged loyalty to this concoction. Any rapprochement with Russia supposedly threatens the empire and must be quashed, even if that entails ham-handed efforts to depose an elected president. However, it’s child’s play for Trump to beat a tactical retreat, talk out of the other side of his mouth, and take the wind out of his enemies’ sails.

To counter the Putin puppet fairy tale, he could have his ambassador to the UN condemn Russia’s annexation of Crimea. He could continue 0bama’s military build up on Russia’s western border. Trump and team could tweet and talk tough about Russia and its allies China and Iran, and reject any joint military operations with Russia in Syria. Oh wait, all this has already happened. So why has the Deep State resorted to repeatedly discredited tactics to propagate its concocted story, ultimately helping the president in his battles with it and its captive press, supposedly in service of a foreign policy criticism of the president that he easily undercuts by adjusting his rhetoric and moving toward their position? What’s going on?

The real story isn’t Russia. Do you mount a “soft coup” over policy differences when, after all the Washington give and take, those policies will, at worst, marginally affect your influence, power, and payola? Doubtful. (Keep in mind Trump wants to increase military budgets.) If, on the other hand, you’re facing complete disgrace and ruin, including a long stretch in a penal institution, there’s nothing you won’t do to save yourself.

It’s not what politicians and bureaucrats do sub rosa that poses the biggest danger to the country and the world, but what they do in broad daylight. However, there’s no denying that Washington is the world capital of sub rosa—the unethical, immoral, and illegal. To use a favorite Trump adjective, it’s a crooked place. Trump knows or suspects where some of the bodies are buried, and the powers that be fear he’ll go after them for everything from garden-variety graft, bribery, theft, and influence peddling to crimes as sordid as child molestation and murder.

He can’t know exactly what he’ll find, but he can turn on the light and watch the cockroaches scuttle. Fishing expeditions for leaks of classified material; a crack team of auditors rooting through accounts and contracts, especially those of the military, the intelligence agencies, and their legions of subcontractors; vigorous prosecution of child pornography and molestation, making deals with small fry in exchange for testimony against bigger fry; Jeffrey Epstein and his Caribbean island; disclosures from intelligence agency archives of deception and illegality stretching back to the Kennedy assassination and Vietnam; disclosure of those 650,000 emails on Anthony Weiner’s laptop; pay to play at the Clinton foundation—the list is endless and who knows what they’ll find. This, not the fear that Trump will revise US policy towards Russia, is behind the Deep State’s cold sweat, motivating its hysterical—comical if wasn’t so serious—campaign to depose him.

This is the first time it has faced an unfriendly in the White House, with presidential powers to investigate, expose, prosecute, scandalize, and ruin. [emphasis mine - FB]



Think about that last sentence for a moment or two; there's SO much truth in those words...

(Message edited by fb1 on February 28, 2017)
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think that's overly optimistic, but I like it.

Past time to smash a big part of the intelligence agencies to ruin. Bill Clinton trashed the human intelligence parts of the equation. Worse yet he bragged about ongoing operations that told Osama bin Laden his satellite phone was tapped. Osama called mommy every day to tell her how the jihad was going. Bill wrecked that with his ego. Couldn't resist showing off how awesome he was. The result? Over 3000 murdered Americans.

Plus other bragging that got countless agents murdered, both American & friends in other countries. It's not a leak when the President talks on 60 Minutes. It may be treason, but it's not an illegal leak. Besides, it's Bill. If multiple accusations of rape and proven sexual harassment, destruction of incriminating public records, & massive, obvious bribery never got him arrested, a little thing like treason and callously betraying people to die for a momentary ego stroking is invisible. ...

Worse was when George the Younger was betrayed by a faction in the CIA that illegally leaked that he had asked for a plan & analysis of a strike on Iran when it was obvious Iran was supplying bombs & jihadists in Iraq. This faction believed they knew better than George and committed treason and violated their oath..

Now after Obama purged military leaders who were competent and filled the intelligence community with neo-communist Party operatives, they again violate the law and their oaths to follow a higher calling than God or their nation. In their eyes.

Many of these folk need to be not just fired, but also prosecuted to the maximum sentence. Or fed to gators, I'm open minded.
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Macbuell
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Many of these folk need to be not just fired, but also prosecuted to the maximum sentence. Or fed to gators, I'm open minded.

Totally agree
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

President Trump.

Just felt like saying it. : )
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think Brit Hume hit the nail on the head . . . "tonight Donald Trump became President".
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHZYwF-gKeM
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8k3h-fn2ow
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good speech. I like our 45th President a whole lot more than the previous President.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He is gonna do whatever it takes to get those who were sitting, to stand with everyone else proudly. (Or not)
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Etennuly
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was impressed. He has become more presidential. Some of the fears that I have been hearing were about Trump being about Trump. In it for himself. I am seeing the opposite. A real patriot in it for America.
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