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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2018 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, they are this stupid!

MSNBC: Rifles Fire 3x Faster Than Handguns, So Teachers With Handguns Would Be Too Slow To Stop A School Shooter
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2018 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

but a pantywaist sheriff standing OUTSIDE the building is fast enough??

Good lord these people are S.T.U.P.I.D.

Worse yet, the sheeple take the MSMs word as gospel without independent thought, or proper research.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2018 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stupid? No.
Ignorant of any real facts about firearms? Absolutely. Guns, cars, motorcycles, airplanes, you can bet the only thing they know is what's handed out by their bosses. ( or approved sources, like Bloomberg )
Dishonest? Yes. It may just be repeated propaganda or deliberate lies. "At this point, what difference does it make? ".

I suspect the deputies were following protocol. From their boss. The guy who quit probably saw he was going to be sacrificed for the Sheriff's cya.

I know the proper move in an active shoot is to move fast & deadly to reduce further casualties. But that is risky. The deputies probably have little training. And old protocols call for law enforcement to stand back, call for back up, and wait for the boss or negotiating guy to show up and make contact. It's a plan for domestic violence, where mommy is dead or wounded and meth'ed up boyfriend is holding her kids hostage.

The difference between hostage negotiation plan and stop the ongoing massacre is stark. Either one is dead wrong for the other situation. Many departments don't even have a fast stop plan. & their lawyers don't like that kind of plan.

They can't win in the court of misinformed public opinion either way.

My first take is fire the Sheriff. Not the deputies.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2018 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A total of 4 Broward County Sheriffs does start to look like protocol not cowardice.
Have seen a couple of videos today that make Israel look really bad.

watching
where's the popcorn???
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Oddball
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2018 - 01:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That deputy retired. From the descriptions of his actions that day he had probably gone ROAD long ago. Retired on active duty. I thought of the line in Heartbreak Ridge as soon as I heard about him standing around out front instead of going in. Shame that big coach wasn't packing. He had the courage deputy armed and worthless didn't.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2018 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I suspect the deputies were following protocol. From their boss. The guy who quit probably saw he was going to be sacrificed for the Sheriff's cya.

You may well be right, in which case protocol should be re-examined and altered if appropriate.

I can imagine ROAD personnel are intentionally selected for school resource officer duty. In other situations, you probably want someone that's experienced, not in a hurry to take overt action, not easily rattled by smart ass kids, etc. Again, if true, this is another thing that should be critically examined and changed if appropriate.

It is interesting how quickly the sheriff threw this guy under the bus. Sure looks like a total CYA.
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