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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2017 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It would be nice if these "scientists" hadn't already made up their minds before conducting their "research".

Of course, a huge part of that is strictly political. For a very long time now, a good way to help ensure that you are successful in you bid for government grant money to fund you study, is to tie it to global warming/climate change. Want to study splinters in little leaguer's buts? Tie it to global warming! Want to study micro robotics, but you have no tie to global warming? Good luck with that!
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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2017 - 06:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Trump EPA:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/01/th e_trump_epa_increasing_levels_of_common_sense.html

Sounds pretty rational to me.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2017 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for that. I actually LOLd when I read this:

"enjoy free rein to gut environmental regulations, without Congress or the courts to stop him."

Like the guy who created them in the first place? Irony.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2017 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A stinging rebuke of the lawless EPA by a federal judge.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/13/judge-r ebukes-epa-orders-quick-evaluation-on-coal-jobs-lo st-over-regs.html
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Court
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2017 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I suppose this goes in the Climate thread . . . but, remember to shovel your snow.




(Message edited by court on January 13, 2017)
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2017 - 03:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.breitbart.com/news/humans-killed-off-au stralias-megafauna-not-climate-change/

Not a big surprise. Mass extinctions in America are a mix of climate change and human activity.

I keep telling people why the mammoth is extinct. They're delicious.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2017 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You mean to tell me that introducing a new alpha predator species to a closed habitat can be disastrous for some of the native species? Who knew?
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 05:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/444141/green peace-lies-resolute-paper-company
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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/01/clim ate-follies.php
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2017 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-416 0106/The-GM-cyborg-dragonflies-spy-you.html

Bug bomb searching, Thodin.
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Alchemy
Posted on Friday, January 27, 2017 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its brilliant. Tillerson is pro carbon tax. They finish the pipeline. The new carbon tax pays for the wall. Then when the price of oil goes too high and tar sands shut down production, they pipe water to the slowly drying/dying West for a tidy profit and a grateful nation. Canada wins, wall gets paid for, West gets water where it needs it via vast tunnels (built by ex-coal miners) through the mountains.

Infrastructure focuses on tunnels rather than bridges. EVs get free access to the tunnels (no fumes) while ICE vehicles get tolls plus carbon taxes.

US leaps ahead in EV production and booms for 15+ years. Efficient transportation boosts production and exports. Carbon tax, use taxes and technology modernization - republicans could back it and it pays it's way. Unions happy, trades happy, bills paid, traffic reduced. Re-election all around. Dems left flat-footed.


OR maybe not. But Tillerson may find a receptive ear to his carbon tax when it comes time to pay the piper.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, January 27, 2017 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Then when the price of oil goes too high and tar sands shut down production"

Tar sands shut down when oil prices fall, as their out-of-ground cost vs. the amount they get for it is not enough to make it profitable.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, January 27, 2017 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's a common pattern.

back in the Jimmie Administration, when the Arabs were punishing us for supporting Israel, the U.S. spent several billion$ copying & modernizing the WW2 German coal to gasoline plants. ( it would be too dirty today without improvement, so we improved it )

The cost of the process meant that it was profitable as long as oil was over $55 a barrel. So.... Saudi Arabia opened up the taps, and brought the price down, and that's why your car is not powered by coal today.

( why the process was not put into production when oil was $100+ a barrel is because of the War on Coal by the enviro-shills )

As an example of how well the process worked, the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum had in storage since WW2 a FW-190 German fighter plane. One of several brought over at the end of the war for testing. There was evidence that this plane had basically come over on a boat and sat around until given to the museum. They found several gallons still in the fuel tanks of WW2 era gasoline that tested out as original coal-to-gasoline product, and while most was treated as hazmat and properly disposed of, some was kept and tested in a variety of engines. Still worked fine after 50+ years. Try that with modern gas.

Years later, they discovered the wings for the plane at the Smithsonian were actually from another airplane. They had commented when restoring the plane that when the wings were unbolted a whole pile of shims fell out. This was guessed to be because of hurried construction at the height of the war. On the other coast a team restoring another of the very very rare Fw's discovered the ammo feed chutes of the wing they had painstakingly restored didn't match the fuselage they had. Turns out it was the wing for the one in the Smithsonian, & vice versa. ( The West coast plane had been test flown by the Air Force back in 1945 ) So they swapped wings, and everything bolted up perfectly with no shims.

As to oil, the Tar Sands & Fracking boom brought the OPEC cartel to open the taps up and lower the price to make the new systems unprofitable.

That's the REAL reason gasoline is not $7 a gallon today. Not that we produced so much that the price dropped... although that's true, it's because the Oil cartel deliberately dropped the price in the last 8 years to slow U.S. and Canadian production.

And, one may speculate, to improve the image of the previous Pres.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Friday, January 27, 2017 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have stakes in 6 or 7 wells down in Texas.
Typically each year brings less revenue, but these days it depends on barrel price.

i see an upturn. Thanks Donald.

As long as I'm not eating cat food it's all good.

Z
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, January 30, 2017 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-an d-tech/news/universe-hologram-holographic-evidence -3d-astrophysics-university-of-southampton-a755376 6.html

I'm not buying this one at all.

I would like to know the kind of pot they are smoking. ; )
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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2017 - 05:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CNN, your environmental news source:

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fonda caro/2017/02/03/cnn-frets-gop-easing-coal-regs-sho w-footage-epas-toxic-mine
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2017 - 06:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.infowars.com/u-n-official-admits-global -warming-agenda-is-really-about-destroying-capital ism/

This report is repeated by infowars, but originated from zerohedge. So a running dog capitalist news source is accurately reporting on the truth of the Climate Con.

Totalitarian control of you.

Population control sounds like a grand idea. Too many people on the planet. Slums full of poor people unable to get ahead since all the jobs are taken.... just like eugenics in a previous age, this is a logical idea. For their own good. Proposals to put birth control drugs in the water. ( by politicians who are as ignorant of medicine as they are human decency.... just take my word for it. Putting hormones in the water is a Bad Idea.... unless you want man boobs and a tiny penis )

As with the eugenics movement of the early 20th century, it breaks down to..... who decides who lives and dies? Stop the black babies & encourage blonde Aryans? ( planned parenthood )

I can only guess the elite eco warrior types assume they are the chosen ones.

Worse, if you want to indulge in a spot of ( justified ) paranoia, is that genetic engineering is entering the script kiddie phase. Anyone with access to a university lab or it's cast off old gear ( gene sequencer ) can download mods and apply them to..... the flu.

So what?

Back in the 1980's a science fiction novel plot was the creation of a deadly plague that targeted specific ethnic dna. A Satan bug that only killed Arabs or Negros. ( in the novel it was pointed out that Arabs and Jews are both Semitic peoples with common dna. So a crazy person could seek to murder one group and kill his own )

This speculative fiction is now not only possible, It's the basis for a lot of medical research. Drugs affect different people based on their genes. ( mine don't like rat poison ) So in a few years designer drugs to better work with your dna.... or your ethnicity, will be commercially available.

Fortunately the list of people smart enough to breed a super plague and the list that's crazy enough to try have very little overlap. Not zero, unfortunately.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2017 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NASA / NOAA Climate Data Is Fake Data

The latest edition of faked climate data.
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Torquehd
Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2017 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Report from Iron Mountain.

Alex Jones was right all along (well, about half the time anyway).
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Ducbsa
Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe the same thing as Sifo's above, but it won't load for me.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/02/clim ate-science-rocked-by-another-scandal.php
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nope, different fake data scandal than mine. Try the link again. It works for me. Sad there are so many of these fake data stories that come to light. I wonder how many we never hear about?
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did you hear about the one where Michael Mann's hockey stick graph does the same thing with random numbers from the phone book? Because even after he massaged the data it didn't come out scary, so he wrote the algorithm to produce hockey sticks.

There's still a lawsuit in progress on this. Mann sued Mark Steyn & National Review for reporting this. The info comes from a group that analyzed the experiment, after waiting 5+ year to get the data with a Freedom of Information request. You can read about it on Steyn's website.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2017 - 05:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

different fake data scandal than mine.

Jeez, you can't keep up with it all! Now the link worked for me.

You wonder how many NOAAers are reluctantly going along with this crap to keep their jobs and feed their families and if Trump's appointees can change the culture at the various agencies?
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2017 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is difficult to keep track of all of the scandals, falsified data, etc. going on in the climate field. Mann's hockey stick reminds me of the scandal you just linked. Revolutionary data the rewrites known history. Normally when that sort of thing happens, it is questioned, and verified, and scrutinized, and tested with other methods before being accepted. It's a tough road, but that's how science normally works. The global warming crowd simply accepts these revolutionary studies without the slightest skepticism. That, at best, is very poor science. Personally, I don't even consider it science. It's far closer to religion. A false religion to boot.

This article... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-419 2182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warmin g-data.html gets into the politics and timing involved in this latest study the rewrote known history. Just in time to get world leaders to commit huge funding for more fraudulent studies. Does that sound too critical? It doesn't to me.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2017 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just remember the same folk that claimed Trump threw away the bust of MLK in the Oval office & had Russian hookers do unsanitary things, are the same who call those who question the Climate Con, Nazis.

And will continue to do so.

This con is perfect for totalitarian rule. Big Lies to scare the peasants. Just like Germany in the 1930's.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2017 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-0 2-08/prominent-republicans-begin-push-to-tax-carbo n-cut-regulations

Does burning politicians count toward my Carbon footprint? If so I'm incorporating and will burn them offshore & trade my credits for cash.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2017 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So...you're going to export American politician burning jobs to third world countries with no environmental regulations, no carbon tax, and pays slave wages to its working poor? Shame on you.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2017 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's the American way ; )
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2017 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some jobs are worth doing yourself, for the pure satisfaction of knowing it was done right. If I have to pay a carbon tax, it's a small price to pay in this instance.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2017 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Besides, the containers go back to China empty anyway. It's practically free shipping. And with the grease content it has to be less polluting than coal. Less smog for China, less pollution for the rest of the world.

Now if I can get a tax break domestically, I suppose I can keep those jobs here. W. Virginia has many closed coal mines and we can sequester the politician's carbon in the deep shafts. Wouldn't even have to burn them, just dump them into the shafts and seal with concrete when full. I suppose I'd better hire Halliburton to do the Concrete plugs, they have the experience. : )

I was planning on packing the bottoms with EPA & VA political appointees to seal against any leakage of morals into the water supply.
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