November 27, 2016: True the Vote (TTV), the nation’s leading voters’ rights and election integrity organization, today released a statement with respect to President-Elect Donald Trump’s claim that “millions” of individuals illegally voted in the 2016 Election.
“True the Vote absolutely supports President-elect Trump’s recent comment about the impact of illegal voting, as reflected in the national popular vote. We are still collecting data and will be for several months, but our intent is to publish a comprehensive study on the significant impact of illegal voting in all of its many forms and begin a national discussion on how voters, states, and the Trump Administration can best address this growing problem.”
True the Vote (TTV) is an IRS-designated 501(c)(3) voters’ rights organization, founded to inspire and equip voters for involvement at every stage of our electoral process. TTV empowers organizations and individuals across the nation to actively protect the rights of legitimate voters, regardless of their political party affiliation. For more information, please visit http://www.truethevote.org.
TRUE THE VOTE SUPPORTS PRESIDENT TRUMP’S CALL TO INVESTIGATE ELECTION FRAUD, READY TO LEAD FORENSIC AUDIT EFFORT 01/25/2017
True the Vote founder Catherine Engelbrecht offers this response to President Trump’s recent announcement calling for a nationwide investigation into voter fraud.
“I am incredibly optimistic that we may be able to finally tackle the very real problems plaguing our election processes. The chaos documented during the 2016 election cycle was the clearest and loudest warning shot to date - systemic election problems must be resolved, or they will soon be the cause of a national crisis.
Current research exists only in silos of disparate data and shallow analysis, offering no basis for comprehensive examination. Known problems, like non-citizen voting, are rarely chronicled and anecdotal evidence is insufficient.
It is for this reason that True the Vote, supported by a select group of technologists, statisticians, researchers, auditors, scholars, futurists, election law experts, and process specialists, is leading a forensic audit with targeted investigations to expose election fraud and offer solutions.
The audit is phase one of our four-year plan to include: Development of a American Voter ID Program, Evaluation of Enhanced Election Technologies, Identifying Dynamic Voter Registration Verification Processes, and Development of Model Legislation.
We look forward to working with the Trump Administration in whatever way possible.
If our elections are not truly fair, we are not truly free.”
Even asking for an SSN may not help you, and it is absolutely relevant to consider the case where many illegal immigrants are using a single valid SSN.
You use that SSN to register to vote. Easy peasy. You vote, tracable to that SSN, trivial.
OK, now it's voting day. If 10 different people in 10 different districts use their 10 different successful registrations to vote 10 different times. Nobody knows, because each district is "crossing off" one and only one valid looking registered voter.
The problem is they have no way of knowing that SSN is also registered in 9 other districts, or if any of them voted today or not.
So, ok you say, you can only register once with a SSN. That doesn't work either, as how do you handle somebody just moving to a new district? So you have to actively reach out to an old district (which you don't know) to tell them to purge an old voter entry when you register them to a new district.
Also, SSN's aren't actually unique. They get reused.
Finding people is usually pretty easy. Full name, phone number, part of SSN, address, and you probably know which belly button you are dealing with.
But if it was 100% reliable, we wouldn't have any problem with identity theft. And we most certainly have a problem with identity theft. A huge one.
So when it is "mostly easy", that means 90 or 95 times out of 100, it is easy. The other times it probably isn't just "not easy", it is probably closer to impossible.
Less than a 1% error rate could completely wipe out Hillary Clintons "popular vote" win. Not that it matters, as the rules of the game were well established and well understood, and she had one of the biggest losses in recent history according to those rules.
She held herself above the law, and the American people used the second to last control at their disposal, the voting box, to get justice.
They will do the same to Trump if he screws it up.
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Funny, You folks are discussing ways for individuals to commit voter fraud, one voter at a time.
Consider what is actually going on. Dead people are never taken off the voter roles in many places. I have my doubts about people like my self who move. The know the dead folks wont show up to vote. They also know I wont be back to vote from out of state. They also know our names. Now all you have to do is load up a bus full of people willing to go from precinct to precinct, get handed a piece of paper with a name that they will give to the poll worker. They can't ask for ID. There is zero risk of getting questioned. Then on to the next precinct, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on...
So I understand the nationalist ideals behind withdrawing from the TPP, reducing our role in the UN. The problem I see with those two orders, however, is the vacuum created when we "leave" (yes I know TPP has not been ratified or technically enacted). The problem the US has had when we "leave" a theater of war (since, like WWII) is that we leave a vacuum for someone else to come in and occupy.
All that to say, I think reducing our cooperation in global diplomatic venues creates a vacuum for powers with less honorable intentions than the US to occupy.
I know that these are complex issues, and I don't have the answer. I believe that, 20 years from now, we will be looking at an islamist NATO, and China as a super power (they're on the cusp) and perhaps a significantly stronger economy, even leading in the pacific. Looking to probable future situations only adds to the complication of global diplomacy and economic policy.
But the record stock market should not give you unalloyed joy.
I've been aware of this for a while, but today I caught 40 seconds or so of Glenn Beck, worrying that we are going to be "in 1931" later this or next year. He's concerned that the bubble in the market is not "structural". Meaning there isn't anything backing up the big bets.
Now, Glenn is not a Trump fan. He really didn't seem to want him to be president. ( he didn't want Hillary either... so I'm sympathetic to his attitude. )
But Glenn also accurately predicted the Housing Bubble bursting, because he listens to really smart people.
But never mind the talk show host... facts not opinions matter.
The stock market is higher than it "should be" because the Obama regime pumped billions of your dollars into the market to provide an illusion of a good economy. ( mostly money you haven't earned yet to be taken ) Despite the record number of Americans out of work, despite the lowering on middle class income, despite the failing businesses crushed by busybody regulations, Barry was able to sell himself as a winner, because the market was up. But it's an artificial up, and unless the real economy improves, drastically, it will plunge again when it gets shaky and the very rich & very smart will take their profits and buy more land.
It's probably inevitable that we have a crash no matter what Trump or Congress does, it's that fake.
I have no doubt that Trump's election would have resulted in a boost to a much lower stock market, just as it has today. That part you can feel happy about.
But don't get too giddy about this news.
Every time the market pundits start talking about how it's a new paradigm, and the market won't follow the "old rise & fall" it crashed shortly after.
I'm not saying to cash in your stocks, to sell off the Stocks part of your 401k and invest it in something else... and I'm ABSOLUTELY NOT telling you to buy already insanely inflated gold, or silver, or tungsten, etc.
But when, not if, you hear the "paradigm shift" mantra again, you might want to buy something you can trade with in the event it's the prelude to bad times. Bic lighters, .22 ammo, feminine hygiene products. ( Go ahead and laugh. You KNOW you would trade away a bottle of single malt for some pads, if your wife asked you to. ) ( and they make dandy field expedient wound dressings )
In fact, it's not a bad idea for the good times to have a stash handy.
I had not seen the Ms. Engelbrecht interviews. Great stuff.
She was attacked early, often and hard by the IRS prior to the '12 election - she was working diligently to, well, true the vote, and the bad guys knew that dragging 0bama to the finish line was going to be tough enough as it was, without someone with her horsepower shining a very bright light on the integrity (or lack thereof) of the vote.
They hobbled her with every dirty trick in the book, all for her outspoken desire to have a certifiably-honest voting process here in America, of all places.
Kudos to her for surviving, and I hope that she and President Trump crank up the sunlight - there's plenty of disinfecting to be done.
Gold.... well, I've listened to the ads for decades. While it was a smart investment when I was much, much, younger, it was never a great investment, and after gold hit $1000 an ounce, it was a lousy one. A game for rich folk that can afford to cash in a CD and buy gold as a bet.
But even more important, the price can be manipulated by one man. And has been. George Soros cashed in 14 tons ( I could be wrong...on the number ) and the market dropped accordingly.
When one guy, admittedly a really rich guy, and certainly an evil one, can move the market on his own, you are a sucker for playing.
Also, the guys selling you gold on tv & radio? They plan to profit off you big time, because you must be afraid, and scared people are easy to con. Besides, most of the "gold" for sale is actually a piece of paper. Gold coins are real, but you pay a big premium for those. As an investment, almost anything else is better.
and, when the zombie apocalypse comes, tell the guy who has the shotgun ammo that your gold coin is worth $20,000, and you need change, and he'll laugh at you. Can't eat it, good luck trading with it, and for the same money you can have an extra dirt bike handy. And insulate the garage with cases of TP. One roll equals?
California Officials Instruct State DMV Programmers To Remove Undocumented Alien Flags on Drivers Licenses By Sundance, 01/25/2017
A senior-level IT source within the California Department of Motor Vehicles has informed CTH [Conservative Treehouse] within the past 48 hours California officials have instructed DMV data programmers to remove the internal coding flags for the drivers licenses of illegal aliens in California.
As you might be aware, California passed a law known as AB60 authorizing illegal aliens to receive drivers licenses throughout the state [WTF! - FB]. Within the administrative functions of the state DMV database a designation code known as “AB60 code” was created to flag those specific licenses as containing “Federal Limits Apply”.
We have confirmation from a top-level IT source state officials have instructed programmers to immediately remove AB60 administrative coding. The removed code in question is an administrative function for identifying the registered DL holder as an “undocumented person” or illegal alien holder within the DMV database.
The established computer flag allows an administrator or DMV or State official to filter the massive database of California Drivers License holders and identify just those who are ‘undocumented’.
The removal of the “flag” via deletion of the program code, means the database cannot be easily filtered to show only illegals who received those Drivers licenses, and/or generate a list of those license recipients.
According to the IT source the motive for the code/flag removal appears to be an effort hide data and curtail any tool useful in any voter fraud investigation. Several additional aspects lead to this conclusion including California hiring former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder to lead the fight against the Trump administration.
...It is the combination of this specific programming structure, the events and instructions of the past 48 hours, in combination with the outcome of the U.S. election and the new Trump administration saying they will launch a voter fraud investigation, which leads the IT source to the conclusion there is an effort underway within California to hide the evidence of “Illegal Voting” via the use of “State Issued Drivers Licenses” and the willful blindness from the Secretary of State.
The videos of Ms Engelbrecht are inspiring. If she keeps going, I fear for her personal survival. The Democratic National Communist party doesn't play games. Publish their occult truths, and they will merc you, if at all possible.
The only good thing I see with the likely amount of voter fraud, most of it likely happens in CA and IL. Both are states that are hopelessly one sided anyway, so the fraud had little effect on the Presidential elections.
I saw the other day that 1 in 3 Californians are supporting secession. It might be interesting if Trump were to back this movement. If CA were to secede from our union, the Dems would be hopelessly lost in Presidential elections. I wish them luck. Let me know if I can help!
The only good thing I see with the likely amount of voter fraud, most of it likely happens in CA and IL.
I disagree. Sure, if you want the big numbers, those are a good bet.
But.... Consider Minnesota. Or Florida. Both states "allegedly" had vote fraud determine the Congressional election.
In the case of Minnesota, that one "allegedly" false victory gave us the one vote needed to pass Obamacare.
I can only speculate on other states like New York. I'd bet it's got a quite a few folk voting that don't breathe anymore.
The thing is, as the nice lady above points out, it's a way for dishonest folk to rip you off. So the dishonest folk wrote & Write the rules to keep the power & money.
Like bribery laws, it's nigh impossible to prove, the way the law is written. A politician gets a check, then does a favor, and you almost need a confession from both parties to get a conviction. It's so obvious in so many cases... Hillary is just the most obvious.....to us.
To the True Believers, Hillary could kill their children and bathe in their blood, and they'd have an excuse for her. ( that phenomena is not limited to the leftists, but it's the SOP for them )
I wonder what percentage of illegals in the US reside in CA. CA gone from the union would mean no more Kalifornia Kompliant vehicles! Get rid of that stupid charcoal canister crap! But seriously though... any singular state that secedes is deprived of any type of federal support or protection. It's like your 10 year old saying, "You don't love me anymore so I'm running away from home!" OK, but you're going to get awful hungry when I'm not there to make you dinner, cold when you don't have any blankets, and you're going to cry when you get 4 blocks from home and realize you don't know the way to grandma's house.
PLUS, they'll be sympathizing with the south's secession in 1861. I wonder if they'll all bust out the fife and drum and sing "i hates the yankee nation". I wonder if a secessionist California would support Taiwan's independence from China?
Calexit is ridiculousness. It is far easier and more enjoyable for liberal and wealthy Californians who want Calexit to get a vacation home in Vancouver, Canada than it is for them to actually try and pursue Calexit realistically.
You thought China and Russia were laughing at Trump, no? That was what spurred my comment about being careful about where you get your news. The establishment and other left wing media are in full belittle Trump mode from what I can see.
Where to get news? Mutiple competing sources. Try the www.dailywire.com, refer to www.mrc.com, and watch the full video recordings of the daily White House press briefings on YouTube.
ima gonna make a prediction, him saying intelligence agents told him torture works will be well-refuted tomorrow, but that statement just opened up the ability for our brave soldiers to also be submitted to atrocities, but im sure yall are fine with that cuz hail Cheeto.