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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2017 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I understand you are all giddy with the outcome of the election. I REALLY want to be wrong about the next four years. Get back to me in six months. Let's see how things are going. You can't blame anything on the liberals now. The whole show is yours.

I may be "giddy" with the outcome of the election. Don't confuse that with high expectations from Trump. I guess my expectations are high compared to what my expectations would be for a President Hillary, but that's just a poor comparison.

I don't expect the Republicans to vote in lock step. They almost never have in the past. It's even less likely with Trump at the helm. I expect the Democrats will have far more impact on the next 4 years than Republicans had in the first 4 years of the BO administration. The reality is that I don't think Jesus Christ himself could fix the problems our nation currently faces in 4 short years. As far as draining the swamp, I hope he provides leadership toward that goal. The reality is that, while he can pull the drain plug on the swamp to get things started, it requires the voters to do their part. When politicians turn into unwanted swamp creatures, they must be voted out with a vengeance. That simply hasn't not happened. Voters are easily lead astray. It's an issue the founders struggled with at length. The sad thing is, it's very difficult to protect voters from themselves.

Just a quick list of issues that can not be fixed in 4 quick years.
*Obama Care
*The debt and unfunded liabilities
*ISIS and Islamic terrorists in general
*Illegal immigration issues

These are just the top 4, off the top of my head. They are also all issues that BO has either had a huge part in creating, or a huge part in making far worse than it was 8 years ago.
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Macbuell
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2017 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trump, before he even is sworn in, is already doing better than Obama. Carrier, GM and now Ford have all made decisions to keep jobs in the US instead of sending them to Mexico based on Trump's proposals. The man is getting stuff done and he hasn't stepped into office yet.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2017 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The best thing he(we) can hope for is...proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that what he's proposing/doing is FIXING stuff.

Like I said pre-election...I don't care if I like the guy as long as he gets shit done.

Be a blowhard. Be a "new-yawker". Have an attitude. Piss people off. End the PC bullshit. I don't care...just get stuff DONE. Make some progress. He doesn't have to FIX everything in 4 years, just show that it's the right way to go.

And PROVE IT to the ignorant US voter at large, so we don't fall back into the same hole.
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Njloco
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2017 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, today, first day of the new Congress, they tried to do away with the truly independent ethics committee, Trump put a stop to that ! I am an independent early Trump supporter and did not like what the Rep tried to do, so far plus one for Trump !
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Ducbsa
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 04:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wondered about that, too, after reading the headlines and what the MSM decided should be read.

This http://goodlatte.house.gov/news/documentsingle.asp x?DocumentID=735 is spin, too, but it also has some good points regarding due process and referrals to law enforcement.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Be careful how you reach conclusions Njloco. I have no facts in the matter, but there are several reasonable narratives here. You are getting one of them from the media...

1) The republicans are trying to gut the ethics committee so they can commit widespread fraud.

2) The ethics committee is stacked with democrats because the democrats were in charge, and has obviously been a worthless and ineffective organization given the widespread fraud and corruption rampant, and it so hopelessly broken that it needs to be dismantled.

Both sound plausible to me, and the latter is obvious. If we had an ethics committee, why have so many stories been broken by Wikileaks and exposed by the DrudgeReport while this "ethics committee" remains incompetent and irrelevant?

Don't get me wrong, plenty of corruption in both parties, but the media narrative is a little too one sided and simplistic to be accurate.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The current Emperor of New York started an ethics committee. Then when they started looking at his buddy's bribes he cancelled it.

Emperor Andrew took more bribes than his buddies from the same NYC real estate moguls ..... who just coincidentally got great breaks on their property deals from his administration.

Btw he wants to be President. Think Hillary with less morals just as arrogant and slimy.
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At this point the Dems keep doubling down on the people, policies, and tactics that caused them to loose on every front. Let them continue.

At this point they're going full Demtard in the states they control. Have fun.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That "ethics committee" is a joke of epic proportions.

Throw it out with the bathwater to the street below, and any inhabitants of said water can either drown in it or crack their skulls on the pavement.
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Njloco
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The proposal would have barred the panel from reviewing any violation of criminal law by members of Congress, requiring that it turn over complaints instead to the House Ethics Committee or refer the matter to an appropriate federal law enforcement agency. The House Ethics Committee would also have the power to stop an investigation at any point and bars the ethics office from making any public statements about any matters or hiring any communications staff and the ethics office would no longer be able to accept or investigate any anonymous reports of alleged wrongdoing by members of Congress "

Two different animals, House Ethics Committee, and the one they wanted to do away with, Ethics Office. I'm not totally sure if either is the exact correct name.

I'm also not sure of the effectiveness of either other than, it's the Ethics Office they want out !

(Message edited by njloco on January 04, 2017)
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Njloco
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, and YES, Cuomo is a real piece of Dong, for cancelling that N.Y. investigation. I can't believe they allowed him to do that.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He also did a midnight veto New Years on a bill passed unanimously to fund public defenders for the poor..... that passed in June.

For full evil the anti civil rights SAFE act bans you from giving your parents a gun without running a background check. Passed in the dark of the night with no public comment or notification on order of the Emperor to "avoid runs" on purchases of to be illegally banned items.

If you owned an eleven round magazine for a semi automatic weapon you were required to sell it out of state or destroy it. Ten round mags were grandfathered but you are only allowed to load seven..... or they send you to prison.

& then this Bloomberg staff written civil rights violation failed to exempt police officers. .... not one I know who downloaded the fifteen round mags in their Glocks.

None seemed willing to be arrested for their heinous crimes either by a citizen.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

More on the Ethics Office:

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/253571/
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H0gwash
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I saw that bit on Trump tweeting against gutting the ethics office but I was not sure exactly whose spin I was reading so I'll check out some of the links.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting article on what could come under Trump:

https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/a-more-american-con servatism/
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Njloco
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very interesting article !
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2017 - 04:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443526/milo- yiannopoulos-critics-feed-troll-attention

I like Milo because I'm way past fed up with political suppression of rational speech and kicking the gates of The Establishment is all we've got left. Plus tyrants fear laughter. Nothing ruins the power to intimidate like being mocked.

Donald Trump is president for many reasons. Few involve his ideas. Hillary being the obvious monster she is. The media being the dishonest shills so obviously.

The leftist culture gone micro aggression violent insane triggered self rationalizing babies.

Many of us have been left no room to have polite conversation. It's not possible when having any non conformity views makes you an evil Nazi child eater.

While real Nazis pay for riots & media bias.

So I enjoy Milo. He's a total jerk but he picks on worse ones.

Welcome to the 21st century.
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, January 06, 2017 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've found that any and all "rational discussions" with "tolerant leftists" ends up degenerating into a tirade of expletive laden racist accusations...until I tell them I'm a Latin-American immigrant

Aside from an ever inflating ego due to all the free press from his detractors, Milo does well in his effortless ability to expose the absurdity in the illogical and hypocritical rationalizations of the left.

That they call a gay Jew and an antisemitic white supremist is hilarious. Real white supremists hate him.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 05:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://twitter.com/socalmike_SD/status/8185211787 50984193
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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tears!

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/01/10/obama-staf fers-cant-find-work-in-trumps-dc-there-are-no-jobs /?utm_content=buffer4ef43&utm_medium=social&utm_so urce=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trust me .... Hillary wasn't planning on creating a bunch of jobs for Republicans.

Time for these folks to make their natural return to "the real world".

It's natural and as it should be.
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Macbuell
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They have no clue what the real world is. I am sure most will end up working for liberal non-profits like Moveon.org.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So still working for George Soros.

The difference is I won't be paying their salaries.
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the kindest word I can muster all saved up just for this situation.....BYE!
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To save you all a lot of time & angst. .....

There is a "secret Russian report" on Donald Trump and his secret loan deals with Russia. While in Russia Donald rented the room the Obamas slept in and paid hookers to have sex there while he watched and urinate on the bed.... to dishonor Barry.

This secret report was given to the FBI by John McCain, Rhinos, AZ. And published in a CIA report on Trump's ties with Russian hacking blah blah blah.

The origin of this is 4-chan. A FAN FICTION fantasy by a political hater of Donald.

Total fake bull crap.

I could give links but I've already wasted time you could be using to live your life.

Have a nice day.
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did not click on that yesterday and would not have clicked on it today. There would be no need for urination in the dishonoring of Barry as Barry does more than enough self dishonoring.
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Mtnmason
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you're not up to speed on the 4Chan story, you need to be. The layers of irony and the multi-faceted exposure of 'media' and US intelligence involved in the story is quite dumb-founding.

The Donald called out a CNN "reporter" and exclaimed that his agency purveyed 'fake news' towards the end of his presser today. That was golden.
I'll have a six pack and some popcorn ready for the Mattis confirmation!
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/11/journos-blast-bu zzfeed-for-publishing-unsubstantiated-trump-dossie r/

Short form the Republican establishment enemies of Donald paid for dirt.... then the guy who was making the dirt up also got paid for it by the Democrat establishment. This dirt ( entirely made up with parts from a 4-chan smut fan fiction ) was handed to Senator John McCain. .... who did as expected and passed it to the Obama regime & press.

Next week's "news". Donald caught sodomizing panda at Washington zoo. With commentary by Megan Kelly. Witnesses include Grand Moff Tarkin & James Dean's computer recreations.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Blake
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2017 - 02:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know it's a lie, but so was Ms. streep's accusation, which she seemed to take great pleasure in, so now do you think that Meryl Streep is changing her opinion of Trump?

I mean she really relished pissing on half the country in her award acceptance speech. Just sayin'.
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