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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don'tcha just love these displays of Christmas Spirit?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fights-disturbanc es-and-chaos-breaks-out-malls-across-the-united-st ates/ar-BBxB0jP?li=BBnb7Kz
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Was yesterday "National go out and wreck a mall day" or something?

I can remember 20 years ago, spending an hour or two at the mall was a default activity if nothing else was going on. I avoid them like the plague now.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still wander through malls when I'm in a new town. I live two blocks from one and it's very convenient. Restaurants, multi-plex cinema, and easy shopping. It's also NOT the most widely visited mall here on Long Island (aka: Land of the Shopping Mall) so it is seldom as crowded as the others in the area.
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86129squids
Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Morons.

My aunt lives fairly close to the Chattanooga mall- need to give her a call and check in. When I was a little boy, my mom would take me to the mall (several around Nashville), and as long as we met up at the water fountain or whatever at a certain time, she would let me go run around on my own. Of course I'd head to Spencer Gifts first to look at all the goofy stuff and the posters (even some blacklight ones back then...)

I'm glad I grew up back then, and not nowadays.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Assume a typical rant about the "Kids Nowadays" that goes back to Plato.

Blame the smart guy that figured out that social media could be exploited to create a flash mob as a theft by looting tool. A tactic also useful as a "disruption ploy" politically. ( A subject worth it's own consideration. Anyone need a college thesis subject? )

Blame the Barry Regime if you like, funded by the Soros Machine, promoting riots for political power.

Blame the Parents for not teaching right from wrong. Blame the Leftist Education system for deliberately obliterating the notions of truth & morality.

But really, blame them all.

Remember "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised"?

The fall of civilization on Facebook is upon us. ; )
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW the "Kids fighting at the Mall" problem has been heavy, locally at certain malls at special events. A focus for folk separated by 'hood & ability to travel, pre-automobile age.

It's the anonymous factor of hiding in the crush.

Score to settle? Here's the Chance.

Shoplifting when the clerks are too busy to see you.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2016 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My local mall has posted no firearms signs, unless you go in through the bookstore. None posted at those entrances. Otherwise I don't go there.
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Torquehd
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2016 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well If we can't legally have guns in some places, then I believe swords should make a comeback.
A sword on your belt says, "You respect me and I'll respect you. You assault me and I will impale you".
Let's restore chivalry and justice on the individual level.
Just don't choose a rapier; medieval swords are superior to renaissance fashion (and superior to machetes, which some latino gangs seem to be fond of).

Nah. Let's skip all that and just make it legal for me to defend my family regardless of the political views of the local mall owner. Let's restore that "shall not be infringed" part that the left loves to overlook.
What's the definition and intent of "infringe" again?

Is it just me or is it ironic that federal buildings, where federal law should apply (you know, the constitution and supporting amendments), infringe upon federal law?
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Steveford
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2016 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I work for the government and believe me, we do NOT want guns coming in to work from anybody other than the security guards!

There's no hunting or skeet shooting to be done inside of an office building and a clerk is not going to attack you with a stapler.
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Torquehd
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2016 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guns in an office building aren't for hunting or skeet shooting; that's a bad argument.
If you have armed security guards in line of sight, then I can see a place where you would potentially not want to pull out your gun to put down an active shooter. He may perceive you as a threat and put you down as well.

I work on an army base. Anyone can bring a gun on post (though not legally unless you're driving straight to the civilian range) and walk into my office building and start blapping people and there's nothing I can legally do about it. (THAT needs to be fixed - let the freaking military have guns! Annual qualification required of course)

I've been in some downtown ERs with my wife and kids where some bat$hit crazy dudes walk around exhibiting the normal threatening gestures of someone who is about to go ballistic; it makes me uncomfortable every time knowing that I was legally required to leave my gun in the car (and hope that my car doesn't get broken into). Granted an ER isn't a federal building but you get my point. I've seen some unstable people in the Social Security office where I wasn't even allowed to have a freaking multitool on my belt (no metal detector so someone can potentially walk in carrying concealed - that works both ways but only to the disadvantage of the guy who's following the law).

(Message edited by torquehd on December 30, 2016)
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Njloco
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2016 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What does the second amendment have to do with hunting and skeet shooting ?
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2016 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ooh ooh. Mr. Carter! I know! Nothing.
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2017 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I remember the good ole days in Indiana. Car U-turned in front of me and I served up a complimentary T-bone. Ambulance came to give me a ride. Boss from work retrieved my pistol from the car before it was towed and placed it on my chest where the ambulance people left it, ER people left it, X-ray people left it, etc. I tucked it into my waste band and went out and got into the car with my wife. Not even the police at the crash scene or in the hospital gave me a second thought. People need to chill out.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2017 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

... and a clerk is not going to attack you with a stapler.

While I may have entertained bad kung fu movie fantasies about defending myself from a mad clerk with a stapler, I was 12 at the time.

In the real world, and the Federally Oppressive Gun Free Zone I work in, the problem is customers and the occasional disgruntled ex-employee that wants to rob the place or get revenge for real or imagined wrongs.

Then people die. And the nearest armed guard is a 52 minute drive away, or less than 40 minutes if he gets a police escort down the expressway. ( since he has no lights and siren of his or her own )

I have full respect for my armed fellow workers, and their dedication to their jobs, but their primary job is not to be an armed response force for criminal and madman attack. That's on the job list, but rare and not a priority.

And while YOU may work in a NSA level restricted access building where it takes a Mission Impossible strike force to gain access, our security consists mostly of signs telling you not to enter, and if you get into the corridors of the beast, warning signs telling the employees that they are not allowed to carry weapons on the property. ( so they can be the most helpless victims ) Oddly, upper management is behind locked doors.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2017 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Torque, I'm fine with defending myself and others with a sword. 20+ years of training helps. But swords are forbidden to the peasants many places. Even here in America where those who imagine themselves royalty and all you scum peasants hold sway.

Then there's the range issue.

I can only maim an attacker in a very small radius. A bad guy forty feet away is free to slit throats until I can walk there. ( my physical therapy isn't up to running yet )

And don't mock rapiers. "The edge wounds, the point kills." Has been true for thousands of years.

The Roman short swords of the Legions was a multi purpose weapon but stabbing was the prime killing method.

Yes. From bronze blades to late period German half sword fighting the edge inflicts terrible wounds. Butchery. Hard to describe and impossible to grasp without a demonstration. I've seen & taken my own swings on a deer carcass with period weapons. Nasty.

No. Much nastier than that. "Spartacus, Blood & Sand" rivers of blood nasty.

But to fight with sword or pole arm etc. takes years of hard training. Just like karate or la savate, skills must be honed with effort and time.

So when confronted with violence the truth for over a century, the truth that infuriates the would be kings, is simple.

Sam Colt made man equal.

The repeating fire arm is the break through tool that makes a four foot six inch woman the equal to six foot four inch thugs with knives.

For the small, the crippled, and the not traditional martial arts trained, the repeater is the killer app that saves innocent lives.

Period.
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