| Author | Message | ||
     Pwnzor |
Google isn't a Freemason either. | ||
| Alfau |
Did you do the laundry? | ||
| Alfau |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HcDTE1W6Dk | ||
| Alfau |
Google is not Freemason. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDW6Bk8gEg | ||
| Alfau |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=466NeRHc9a0 America is Fu(&#) up.. | ||
| Aesquire |
So your reference source that a nonprofit organization that runs kids camp is actually an evil empire.... is a guy who believes in an alien Mothership? What is is about conspiracy theorists that all must be blamed on ancient gods manipulating human dna in a breeding program going back to the Pharohs that for some odd reason has had zero proof for 6 thousand years? But the guy who informed on his neighbors for the Nazis, ruined the economies of Russia & England, is the founder of multiple "Clinton is innocent" websites and openly wants a one world government with his minions in charge is ignored? I'm not going to argue with the base premise that this Regime is Fu(&#) up. We've been telling you that for years. Your inability to tell the difference between an Communist stooge paid for by Saudi Arabia, and the vast number of actual citizens that make up this country does not speak well to your judgment. Still, gotta admire Australia for actually kicking corrupt politicians out of office. We could learn from them. | ||
| Sifo |
BO just doesn't care at all about the laws of this country... | ||
| Xdigitalx |
WTF????? | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/20 16/11/04/u-s-government-hackers-threaten-to-interv ene-in-election-over-russia-suspicions/ Teddy said "Walk softly and carry a big stick". Barry talks big and throws the stick away. What moron threatens war with the New Russian Empire? If, as the article alleges, Putin could shut down our power grid, then needlessly antagonizing nuclear armed enemies with their fingers already on our throats is nothing less than insanity. You need to draw a line? Do so, and make it stick. Must go toe to toe with the Ruskies to save Europe? Do it with style and make no one doubt your sincerity or resolve. Draw lines about WMD's and then ignore your own tough talk from days before? Threaten war repeatedly while not budgeting practice ammo for the troops? This has gone beyond sane into Alice & Wonderland. With Hillary screaming "Off with their heads!" | ||
| Glitch |
I'll love to see this thread end | ||
| Aesquire |
Alas, this thread will be brought back next year. I anticipate international legal action against this regime from multiple angles. Barry's Wars continue. Mass migration away from the genocide continues. There remains a new war yet unannounced & ignored with the Kurds vs. the Turks & Iran & Iraq. ( which should have been settle by Bush the Younger ) Europe will continue to show signs of Nationalist backlash, and we've only got a tiny hint of the level of murder and rape in the U.S. from the imported refugees. Little towns across America are waking up to find a substantial percentage of the population is refugees and that they are not subject to the same law as a Citizen. Some towns are being deliberately taken over with refugees. For example the next town council may be foreigners and they will vote to impose Sharia, with the consent of the majority. Remember "Footloose"? re-imagine that with the town elders burning the dancers at the stake. | ||
| Court |
Good ••••••• riddance . . . . . | ||
| Sifo |
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| Sifo |
I was wondering when this would come up. Sure didn't take long. White House open to a Clinton pardon Of course, the implication here, is that BO knows something that the FBI doesn't.  OK, nobody believes that one. It does show that BO is damn well aware of Hillary having committed crimes. I wonder if he will pardon himself on the way out too. It really wouldn't surprise me at this point. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Id actually be for it, if it would be the last time we see or hear from her on the national stage. She escaped legal prosecution, but justice found her and took away her life long dream of being the first woman president. She paid a high price, karma is a bitch. | ||
| Sifo |
Paid a high price? She's rich beyond most peoples wildest dreams, all through corruption. She has never produced anything to legally make all that money. Perhaps she will pay a price in the next world, but she certainly hasn't in this world. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I think so. I think deep down she will know it was hers for the taking, and her greed kept her from achieving her ultimate dream. I think that will gnaw at her more than the money will salve her, but maybe I underestimate the degree to which she really is an irrational psychopath. Who knows. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I hope Trump keeps a lid on wanting to prosecute until BO is out of office...let him forget...think DT is letting it go...then once he's out and CAN'T pardon... hang the bitch. | ||
| Glitch |
She paid a high price, karma is a bitch. Karma is only a bitch if you are one. I think deep down she will know it was hers for the taking, and her greed kept her from achieving her ultimate dream. and all the money in the world can't change that. Money ain't a problem she has. What is will eat her till she dies. | ||
| Torquehd |
I'll love to see this thread end I anticipate there will be a lot of events to gripe about between now and Jan 20. I hope I'm wrong, but barry is facing the reality that a very competent, patriotic, conservative president, with the weight of republican house and senate, will have the ability to undo all that he's "done" in the past 8 years. And then some. He was never trying to make America better, he was trying to make America more like a dependent colonial state with a sprinkle of islamic vengeance on top, and he's done a bang up job of it. And in just a few years his "accomplishments" could be mostly undone. Scorched earth? I hope not but we'll see. | ||
| Sifo |
The problem is that even out of office, the Clintons have a huge political machine, as well as a "charity" that is used to launder huge amounts of foreign cash in exchange for access to that political machine. They still have all of their connections to arrange for access at high levels of our government. God forbid, in four years we could be looking at a Democrat entering the WH again. The will be all set up to sell that WH access to the highest bidders. Also consider that Chelsea has been groomed all her life to be the new generation crime boss of this organized crime syndicate. Yes, I would feel much better having all of that torn down. If we don't, then the message is sent that laws are for the commoners, not the aristocrats. Wrong message! | ||
| Reepicheep |
I hope that republicans keep moving health care solutions forward, not just throw a fit and blow everything up. It was a screwed up system before the ACA. It was a screwed up system after the ACA (which, at it's root, was a classic republican kind of model). I don't know if it is better or worse, probably worse, but mainly it just picked different winners and losers at the point of a gun. I hope it keeps moving forward. Mainly I hope it makes a clean split (and some populist education) to make people understand that there are two different health care models. 1) The subscription model, where you pay a monthly fee for whatever healthcare you may need for the year. This is going to be very expensive, and it should include consideration of your expected costs like pre-existing conditions, but it lets you budget for your health care costs. It means you pay for your health care that you get, just with monthly payments. 2) Insurance model. People need to understand that this is simply legalized betting for health care coverage. You find a bookie, you make a bet based on how much health care you think you need (and how much they think you need), and you and the house either can agree on a bet or not. You will almost always lose, and pay more in the bet than you get. But sometimes you will "win big" and the house will pay out a lot. The problem is time. It's crazy to make the "house" make a bet without knowing the odds, in other words to say they can't take into account pre-existing conditions. People will just wait until the odds are in their favor (they are sick) then go make a bet they know they will win. But it's also crazy that somebody who has been making bets for a decade then wins once, and the house then kicks them out before they can bet again, because the house knows they will lose. Actually, that isn't crazy. It pretty much just explains why the "betting" model is a terrible model for healthcare delivery. I think I just figured that out. I think I just talked myself into mandatory health savings accounts for citizens, with a government safety net of economy medical carer for those that can't afford coverage. I don't like government forced programs like that, but we can't and won't just leave somebody dying in the street because they maxed out their credit card, so this is one of those "we are stuck in this together so there will be some ground rules about some things you have to do because you will impact others if you don't do them" situations. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Screwed up system or not... I used to pay $90 a week for a "gold" plan, with a $2500 deductible I now pay $195 per week for a "silver" plan, with a $6500 deductible. Burn it down. Remove the mandate, I'll pay cash for my medical treatment... JUST LIKE I ALREADY DID THIS YEAR for my heart catheter. | ||
| Hughlysses |
I hope that republicans keep moving health care solutions forward, not just throw a fit and blow everything up. I read something yesterday that Trump has already talked to Dr. Ben Carson about coming on board and working something out. I'd think Carson is an ideal candidate for this kind of thing. Based on the little I know about his background, I imagine he grew up with no health coverage, so hopefully he understands the plight of those in that situation, and he's a respected surgeon so he hopefully knows a lot about that end of it. | ||
| Sifo |
I agree that health care needs to be addressed. BOcare had some good objectives, but fails miserably, as was predicted. One of the big problems is that we are expecting insurance to cover things like normal checkups. Because these normal every day visits are completely covered, you never question anything about the visit. Do I really need this, or that? Never question the charges. It's all free, right? Well, as adults, we know nothing is free. We just pay it to the insurance company first, then they pay the Dr. after taking their fee off the top. It's kind of like having your auto insurance pay for you oil changes. And as long as it's "free" to you, we might as well vacuum the carpeting, and fluff your seat cushions too. The suck and fluff can be big money makers too. You never question the fee because you don't see it. The insurance company really doesn't care much, you already paid them up front. The oil change place is thrilled because they could never get anyone to pay for a suck and fluff with their own money, and it's a very profitable service. Meanwhile, the poor who have their insurance subsidized, can't afford to pay the huge deductible that we are now seeing. When they are sick or injured, they still can't pay the bills. But we can pat ourselves on the back for getting them insured. The folks who manage to pull themselves up to the point that they no longer qualify for the subsidies really get the shaft. They are paying full price for very expensive insurance up front, and if they have to use it, the can't afford the deductible. We've actually been living right at that cut off point for a few years now. Fortunately, I have savings that I can drop into an IRA and keep my taxable income below the cut off for the subsidies. I'm also fortunate in that if I got sick I have savings to pay for the huge deductible. Between insurance premiums and deductibles, you can top over $30,000 out of pocket in a hurry if you get sick. That's probably close to 100% of your take home pay at that point. On top of that, you are paying taxes that pay for the subsidies for those making just a little bit less than you do. BOcare has actually worked well for us, because we already have saving to live a very comfortable semi-retired lifestyle, and have been pretty healthy. There's a huge incentive to NOT become more successful that allowed by the subsidies though. As I pointed out, I've done that by deferring income, but most in this income group can't afford to do that. They are actually better off turning away work! That's worse that just a bad health care system. That's a bad plan for everything in the country. It's part of what's crushing the economy. It's part of what keep the poor, poor. They literally can't afford to move up the income ladder. This year will be a great year for us. New state. Took new jobs, because we can get the insurance the teachers get. That would be the "Cadillac" plans that BO was attacking, but exempted many groups from the tax side of BOcare. Suddenly I find myself with the best insurance I've had in my life, and the premiums are fairly reasonable. My cost is damn cheap! I keep hearing the stories where I work of getting hip or knee replacement surgery, and only having to pay the $200 deductible. I have to say, it's damn nice getting paid by the tax payers! Our entire system is turned upside down! On the Hillary thing... One more reason to prosecute her, is to simply send the message that you are serious about draining the swamp. If BO were to pardon her, would it be the "right thing to do", or would it just be elitist cronyism? When it becomes right to let the biggest criminals in our society skate from their crimes, have we not created a system where the laws simply do not apply to the political elite? That's not the system I learned about when I was a kid in school. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Pwnzor, that's true, but when you paid cash to the hospital, you weren't just paying for your care, you were also paying for care they had to offer to anyone that shows up at their ER doorstop but who had no way to pay. (Kinda, except the hospitals tried to stick most of that stuff on the insurance companies and let cash payers skip some, but that was just a matter of time before the insurance companies squeezed back) So you are right about how it got worse, it was screwed up before as well. | ||
| Macbuell |
I find it sick how the liberals claim this is such a great thing because so many more people are covered ... without addressing the fact that the premium is still unaffordable and the never even mention the deductibles which are completely outrageous which means people are paying cash for their health care anyway. The plans are basically now catastrophic plans with premiums more than what you used to pay for full coverage. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Exactly. ... And with a huge increase in Medicare that we don't know how we will pay for or staff. | ||
| Airbozo |
For several of my friends the main benefit of the ACA was the existing conditions clause. Without it, they could not get insurance no matter what the premium or deductible. I've actually had an argument with 2 of them over the whole issue. They don't want to work and feel they should get free medical and I like to work so I have to pay for them. They bitch that while the premium is being covered, they still have to pay the huge deductible. BOO freaking HOO, get a job! That usually ends the conversation and contact for a couple of weeks. |
