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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No. It will be worse.

we've had eight years of worsening unemployment & corruption making Wall Street & the Politicians richer.

Multiple wars, some still ongoing, the rise of genocide and slavery.

Obama's Wars have sent hundreds of thousands of "refugees" from lands bombed by Obama & Putin & Iran into Europe and to a lesser amount, here.

Every nation the Hillary State Dept. touched is worse off. To be Fair, Barry was in charge, although some say he let Hillary have Libya as her personal achievement.

"We came, we saw, he died" is such a classy way to announce you attacked a nation without Congress's approval, had their leader killed, and left a mess of biblical proportions. But at least they stole the Oil, right? Or did France get that?

No, I for one will bitch more.

Heck, I'll bitch more if Donald wins.
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Crusty
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I honestly hope that map is correct. I know that I'll be at the polls early tomorrow.
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Fb1
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dr. Lameiro predicts Trump 339 EVs, Clinton 199:

quote:

Trump Landslide? Election forecast from Dr. Gerard Lameiro - Focus Today
theDoveTV
Published on Nov 2, 2016

Dr. Gerard Lameiro, author of Great News for America, shares his latest electoral college forecast and explains why the polls have been so far off this year.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA7X6QJ-8bQ



quote:

Gerard Francis Lameiro Ph.D. is an author, philosopher, economist, and engineer. He is the author of Renewing America and Its Heritage of Freedom, America’s Economic War, and Choosing the Good Life. Dr. Lameiro was the Founder and CEO of Lameiro Economics LLC, a company focused on bringing practical economic knowledge about Freedom, economic growth, and prosperity to America and to the world. Dr. Lameiro was also a member of Hewlett-Packard’s Strategy and Corporate Development team. Earlier in his career, Dr. Lameiro was the worldwide President of the Association of Energy Engineers (AEE) and a National Science Foundation Post-Doctoral Fellow. Dr. Lameiro was an Assistant Professor in Colorado State University’s College of Business. Dr. Lameiro is a frequent and popular Talk Radio show guest. Dr. Lameiro is an expert in economic growth and computer modeling.

Source, more: http://gerardlameiro.com/about-2/biographical-sket ch




quote:

Great News for America is about the critical presidential election of 2016, which is shaping up to be the most profound presidential election since the critical presidential election of 1896, an event that took place 120 years ago.

This book makes ten surprising predictions that are bold and powerful. These are stunning predictions, predictions about America, predictions about the 2016 presidential election, and predictions whose impact go far beyond this election. Indeed, this book predicts some historic events for America that will take place before, during and after the 2016 presidential election. Those events will positively impact America for decades to come.

Great News for America provides insights into America, into its political history, and into its voters and their deeply-held beliefs on morality and freedom. It also clearly shows how voters in America are ultimately in charge; how they expect their political parties and political institutions to act; and how voters will decisively make parties and politicians accountable to themselves.



Source, more: http://greatnewsforamerica.com/great-news-for-amer ica/


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Cataract2
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Really Ferris? You believe that bull. Landslide?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can only hope this is right

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/heres-polls-wrong-trump-will-win-landslide-polls/






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Steveford
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The circus ends tomorrow (thank God).
My prediction: Trump loses and goes back to real estate development and his wife divorces him, Clinton wins and half the country hates her for one reason or another.
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Buellerxt
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That map is crazy wrong, Crusty. Not as crazy wrong as the looney school shooting hoax video that was posted on here the other day, but still crazy wrong. It will be a win for Clinton tomorrow. I'm hoping it won't be but . . . I can't stomach her or her policies and I can't stomach Trump and a number of his proposed actions either but I voted for Trump. I did so hoping like hell that those around him will control the egotistical empty suit if he were to win. I voted for the party and sadly Trump was part of that. Hopefully, after tomorrow's loss, Republicans will wise up and begin, earnestly, working hard to show and convince blacks, Hispanics and other minorities why the Republican Party is the best party for their and their kids futures. Not just the same empty talk with no effort but a concerted nationwide effort to work hard for four years to include minorities. That's a tough task, no doubt, but if they don't succeed at that the party is doomed. Demograhics have changed tremendously in America in our lifetimes, as we all know, and the Party has to recognize that and work hard to appeal to all constituents if it wants to remain relevant. Hoping people won't vote is a losers game and will get tougher at every election cycle.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can't wait to see all the bitching Ferris is going to do tomorrow. I'm sure it will be just like all the bitching and he and everyone else on here did when Mitt Romney lost.

Hey Cat, rather than just bitch about us, how about explaining to us how you are OK with the corruption that is the DNC? The violence that has been enticed and paid for against Trump supporters? That would be your fellow citizens! The collusion between the media and media? The voter fraud, that as always, seems to to incredibly one sided? Are these really things you wish for? Support? Vote for? Based on your hit and run posts, I can only surmise that you are fine with all of this. Anything to say in your defense?
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Cataract2
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mark, keep wishing for that to happen. I think you need your lucky penny

You folks will entertain me plenty tomorrow like you did 4 years ago. As for Pubs. You guys have shown you hypocrisy to the entire country with this one. Do you think it might be time to stop playing the moral card? Because with this show that is long gone now.

I think the Pub party is fractured quite well now. Would have thought you learned something last time. Guess not.
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04xl1200c
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Cataract2. Care to actually answer the question posed by Sifo? Or is it impossible to come up with an answer that does not make you look like a total fool?
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hate to say it, but it sound like Cataract2 is intellectually invested in the divisiveness of progressiveness. He is showing his distaste for the people with which he disagrees. This is a key strategy of progressives. Divide us all into groups that can be easily manipulated. What needs to be understood, is that at the end of the day, we all suffer the same fate of poor leadership. We are all suffering with BO's failing economy. We are all suffering with BO's imploding, signature healthcare legislation. We are all suffering on the brink of WWIII, with the failed statesmanship that has lead to more undeclared wars that Bush was ever even accused of. We are all suffering with the insane open border policies that are flooding our country with unvetted people who are coming here for all the wrong reasons. But at least the group that Cataract2 has been taught to loath, will be suffering. That's what really counts, right?
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Cataract2
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

John, maybe if you had some actual sources that could be considered credible then maybe I might have an answer. Keep trying. I'm looking forward to the head exploding on here tomorrow.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why wait?

You could actually have a position and defend it with logic and honor. That would do it.

I understand you either are incapable of articulating your views, or refuse to since their basis is dishonest.

It's pretty typical of leftists and those atheists who hit adolescence and reject all religious faiths because it's easier to mock than to explore.

One gives you an unearned feeling of superiority to the primitive followers of the Sky God, and the other requires actual thought.

Pretty obvious, all in all why you act like a spoiled brat coward. Much easier.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So...none of these are "reputable"?

- the current unemployment rate
- the current deficit growth rate
- the actual increases in healthcare expenses for all Americans
- the current state of our borders
- the fact that our current president is on film saying "it's OK if you're illegal, go ahead and vote anyway, Immigration won't come after you"

...none of that actual FACT is "reputable" enough?

I guess you prefer the "reputable" reporting of the mainstream (Democrat) media...because THEY'RE so impartial...

No wonder the country's going down the shitter. People can't open their eyes and see what these politicians are doing to us.
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Fb1
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can only hope this is right

Wolfie, it's interesting to compare the maps we posted, and that both predict Trump with the same number of EVs:




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Fb1
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

UNDECIDED VOTERS: Here Is Why You Should Vote Trump and Tear Down The Establishment.
www.reddit.com
November 7, 2016

We've heard a lot this election season from the mainstream media scaremongering about Trump in order to convince you to vote Hillary, and a lot of that comes from organizations who have a vested interest in keeping establishment politicians in power. This has lead a lot of Redditors to be entirely ignorant of Trump's actual ideas, drowned out in the sea of sensationalist propaganda against Trump.

So with a day before the election I've decided to compile a list of reasons I think Trump would make a good president and actually shake up Washington:

•Against the TPP treaty which threatens to destroy jobs and give more power to global corporations, while Hillary called it the “Gold Standard”.

•Wants to limit U.S. hegemony via not being the world’s police. He is against nation building wars and breaks from GOP orthodoxy by wanting to be mostly non-interventionist. Hillary on the other hand has a long record of war mongering and dominating in campaign donations from military/defense contractors. Everyone should watch Trump's foreign policy speech where he sounded very presidential

•Wants to impose term limits on Congress. 75% of Americans support creating term limits on Congress, and Congress has dismal approval.

•Ethics reform to limit lobbyism: wants to stop the link between corporate donors buying up politicians which is one of the biggest problems in our government. He has created a 5 point plan in order to achieve this, including expanding the "definition of lobbyist so we close all the loopholes that former government officials use by labeling themselves consultants and advisors.

•Himself is highly resistant to lobbyism and special interest influence. He is a reluctant politician, and doesn't need the donor money to get rich. He could have lived the rest of his life in extreme wealth and luxury instead of running for office, he's the only candidate ever for whom the Air Force One will be a downgrade in luxury as he currently owns a custom private 757.

•Lower taxes, while at the same time closing tax loopholes for Wall Street bankers such as carried interest. What does this mean for you? Well here is a calculator where you can compare how much taxes you would pay under Trump and Hillary

•Knows firsthand how dishonest, biased and corrupt the mainstream media is. Just like Bernie Sanders said the AT&T/Time Warner merger must be stopped, Trump has said he would break up such media consolidation putting him further to the left of Obama who allowed the Comcast/NBC merger.

•Wants to audit the Fed, just like Ron Paul did.

•He’s very pro-2nd Amendment. Got the earliest endorsement from the NRA ever.

•While he is perfectly fine with allowing in legal immigrants, he has a strong anti illegal-immigration policy, including de-funding sanctuary cities and going after corporations who hire illegal immigrants rather than Americans. This has actually become a huge problem, with illegal immigration costing American $113 BILLION a year. Hillary wants to FLOOD America with mass amounts of third worlders and grant illegal immigrants citizenships, as polling shows they are more likely to vote Democrat in future elections.

•Pro-Nuclear Energy

•Goes strongly against PC culture that has unfortunately gained a stranglehold on much of our society since neo-progressivism came into vogue (Hillary is pro Black Lives Matter and believes in the Wage Gap)

•Will repeal Common Core

•Pro-medical marijuana, and letting states decided whether to legalize.

•Anti-Globalist: He takes a strong stance against the collusion of international financiers like George Soros with Washington insiders, and wants to make national interests take precedence over the profits of huge global corporations.

•Wants to end corporate inversion and discourage offshoring.

•Understands the threat of Sharia Law and Radical Islamic Terrorism. Meanwhile Hillary holds very regressive left views on Islam and defends authoritarian Islamist states like Saudi Arabia (while proclaiming to be for women's rights).

•Plans to push for 6 weeks paid maternal leave as standard and allow families to deduct from their income taxes child care expenses.

•Wants to work together with Russia in stopping Jihadi's in Syria instead of being adversaries.

•Knows NATO needs to be rejiggered to focus on terrorism instead of just continuing a Cold War with Russia and bombing countries.

•Wants to end healthcare monopolies by promoting competitive bidding.

•Despite the hoopla that came from the "grab them by the pussy" tape, Trump has been hiring women into senior positions for decades, before it was common. He actually isn't sexist and wants to see women succeed, and nobody will tell you this more than his former female employees.

•Knows how effed up the Saudis are like the rest of us, while Hillary takes in millions from them.

•Wants to end the incompetence and corruption at the VA.

Not only that but he has been talking about these issues for decades now. Unlike career politicians like Hillary who gain their wealth from selling political favors to corporate and foreign donors, Trump is beholden to nobody. He knowingly took the risk of running for president with an anti-establishment platform which has not only put his life in danger, but put him in the crossfire to be constantly called racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, transphobic and all the other buzzwords the establishment uses to socially peer pressure to continue voting for their candidates.

The fact that Wall Street hates Trump and love Hillary, the fact that the career politicians hate Trump, the fact that the media is almost entirely promoting Hillary and bashing Trump, should tell you everything. They have set up a system that keeps the people pacified into inaction as the wealth inequality increases every year. Only 30% of Americans are satisfied with the current direction the country is going according to Gallup polls, we have a record 94 million Americans not in the workforce, nearly 7 in 10 Americans have less than $1,000 in savings, young people struggle to finds jobs and America is continually slipping in most indicators of global power. While the graph of national GDP as percentage of world GDP skyrockets for China, it continually slides down for America. The establishment have enriched themselves while destroying the working class. Don't fall for their scaremongering about Trump.

Drain the Swamp



Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5bnmi u/undecided_voters_here_is_why_you_should_vote/?

Citations in source article:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/28/do nald-trump-vows-to-cancel-trans-pacific-partners/

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/27/hillary-the-ha wk-a-history-clinton-2016-military-intervention-li bya-iraq-syria/

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/defense-indu stry-hillary-clinton-227336

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW8RqLN3Qao&t=6m20 s

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-10 -18/trump-proposes-term-limits-for-congress-to-dra in-the-swamp

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald -j.-trumps-five-point-plan-for-ethics-reform

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPs17_AkTI

http://www.clark.com/tax-calculator-clinton-trump

http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/22/media/donald-trump -att-time-warner/

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/immigration

http://www.fairus.org/issues/publications/state-co st-studies

http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/19/hillary-clinto n-rather-blame-free-speech-islam-terrorism/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-tru mp-a-champion-of-women-his-female-employees-think- so/2015/11/23/7eafac80-88da-11e5-9a07-453018f9a0ec _story.html

https://youtu.be/OCabT_O0YSM
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Fb1
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm a big fan of Paul Nehlen:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99DhEQrroMw
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Fb1
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For you folks out west:

quote:

Sources say Media is colluding Fake exit polls on Nov 8 showing Hillary winning to keep later day Trump voters home



Source: https://twitter.com/trump2016fan/status/7957549593 42108672/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Fb1
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2016 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhhVAANoy_A
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Macbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tomorrow is going to be a long day.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Went to vote on my way to work.
The line out the door....

A woman standing behind me.
"I have been voting here for 30 years and there has never been a line"

I live in a rural area where I have only seen one house with a Hillary sign in the front yard.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 08:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still see Bernie signs, but I don't see Hillary signs anywhere...
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well; I just got back from Voting. There were a good number of people there. Since this is my first Presidential election at this address, I don't know if it was average turnout or more or less. All I know is that I cast my vote for the lesser of the two evils. I hope he wins by a sizable margin.

It really is sad to see just how bad things are in this country. We really need some Change and maybe that will give us Hope. The real things; not the rhetoric spouted by Obamalamadingdong.
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Went to vote on my way to work.
The line out the door....

A woman standing behind me.
"I have been voting here for 30 years and there has never been a line"


^ The monster vote.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm driving 120 miles for work every day. I also do a regular drive to my brother's and mom's place about 20 miles away. I can take about 5 different routes to get there, just to change things up. Last week I started to look for Hillary signs, just to get an idea of the amount of support for her in this area. There are Trump signs everywhere BTW. IN all the miles of roads that I travel on a regular basis, I have found a total of 3 Hillary signs. Well that does exclude home made signs like this one...





I didn't count that one as a supporter! There's a few others around the area too.

I voted today for the fist time in my new home state. Waited in line for about 45 minutes in a light rain. The folks behind me said they have never had to wait in a line that ran out the door before. Sounds like a huge turn out in a very pro Trump area. MI requires an ID to vote too!
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The folks behind me said they have never had to wait in a line that ran out the door before.

^ The monster vote.
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Airbozo
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After missing the vote one year due to a last minute customer meeting, I now always vote by mail. Never had to stand in line, show an ID or miss another vote...

Funny that the company I work for now, is giving people time off to vote and a lot of the people that work here are not even eligible to vote since they are not citizens... (H1B's)

Another funny:
There is a large fence at the end of one of the main roads where it intersects with another main hwy and they normally have that fence covered in advertisements. It is completely blank and every time someone puts up a campaign sign, it gets torn down within a few minutes. I have not seen on single sign in my neighborhood and only local ones along my commute route.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting...

Voto secreto Trump? Most Hispanics back deportation, want immigration cap cut in half

quote:

An election eve poll finds sweeping support for immigration enforcement even among most Hispanics in the United States, potentially bolstering Donald Trump's presidential bid.

The Pulse Opinion Research survey found that 51 percent of Hispanics believe that there has been "too little" done to enforce immigration laws. What's more, by a margin of 49 percent to 36 percent, Hispanics "support a policy causing illegal immigrants to return home by enforcing the law."

Overall, the survey done for the Center for Immigration Studies, found that most Americans, 54 percent, believe that the administration has done too little to enforce immigration laws and 56 percent support returning illegals.




Makes sense to me. If you are here legally, why would you support illegal immigration. I get wanting to get family here, but it doesn't take a genius to understand that if illegals are flooding the border, there is little desire to open up legal immigration.

One other point I recently heard about the polling. Trump supporters tend to really hate the media pollsters, so are very unlikely to stay on the line if called for a poll. It's very possible (likely?) that Trump supporters are very underrepresented in the polls. I know I've hung up on them recently.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Poll represents 1027 randomly selected likely voters...who bothered to answer our questions. They never mention the last part.
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I live in eastern NC I have only seen 1 clinton sign, "Hillary for PRISON 2016", I know of my local acquaintance only 3 voted for clinton, I wonder how she is going to win?
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