| Author | Message | ||
     Mr_grumpy |
Well my friends, on my recent birthday I was at a car show and stole a 67 Plymouth Fury 4dr hardtop for very little money.  It has a 318 poly engine, and didn't take too much to get it running nicely, until this afternoon when it started knocking and screeching and had to be dragged home on a flatbed, grrrr. Every cloud has a silver lining though, so I'm now looking for a LA series unleaded friendly smallblock, which also has far more tuning options. | ||
| 86129squids |
THIS is gonna be a fun thread. Not just because of the tittle. Hey Vern!!!    | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Poly? I don't recall hearing of that term. Sounds like an oil supply issue. At least 318 are pretty cheap/common in junkyards. (or at least they were when I needed one 25 years ago!) | ||
| Hughlysses |
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/mopp-0109-chryslers -poly-head-engine/ | ||
| 1313 |
Not as deep as Hugh's, but some more tidbits I just read in a bang up Canadian magazine that my local Books A Million seems to sell every other issue of - they didn't have the last issue, but they had the one before it...   I'd subscribe to that magazine if it weren't so darn expensive for those south of the Molson-Domestic line... 1313 | ||
| Ourdee |
The 318 lends itself to being stroked out past 400 ci. | ||
| Ourdee |
I used to cut the fins out of the distributer area of the blocks at the foundry in Indianapolis. Used a W3 chipping hammer. | ||
| 86129squids |
Poly = Hemi. Dang, think about how crappy it would be to hear all the Mopar folks going around, saying "I've got a Poly." Sure would've screwed up their marketing! | ||
| Tootal |
Marketing is right! The Hemi's of today are really wedge heads! | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
The 318 poly is also known as the Semi-Hemi. | ||
| Ourdee |
Side fact. Indy Foundry's Grey Iron had a high nickel content. | ||
| Griffmeister |
It'd be worth it to get a bumper sticker that says, "Yeah, it's got a Poly". | ||
| Ratbuell |
When I get around to my late-model hemi swap into my '72 satellite I'll have an LA 360 sitting around... Externally, the 318/340/360/5.2/5.9 are all identical and will sit in the same mounts. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Here's a thing, C body Plymouths got the LA motor from '66 in the US, but Canadian built models from '68, so I can slot in a LA motor and still be period correct (not that I really care about that.) When time and space permit, I'll drop the sump to look at the bottom end, maybe I can get away with just a set of shells. Currently the Grand Marquis is in bits in the garage due to a knackered clock-spring, and the hemi Jeep, although usable, desperately needs a new power steering pump and rear hubs. I have the parts but family, garden and visitors have conspired to prevent installation. Then the Guzzi needs a service too. It's all happening but at least I have most of the tools to do all the jobs. Watch this space, but don't hold your breath. | ||
| 86129squids |
Where's that popcorn emoticon? | ||
| Court |
Let me guess. . . .valves go out of adjustment and that's where the phrase "poly got a clacker" came from ? | ||
| Pwnzor |
That is a great car, I shall be watching with interest. | ||
| Tootal |
Let me guess. . . .valves go out of adjustment and that's where the phrase "poly got a clacker" came from ? Oh Court, that really hurt!  | ||
| Etennuly |
"poly got a clacker"   I laughed so hard I dropped a rod in my pan!  | ||
| Etennuly |
There was babbit everywhere! | ||
| Hughlysses |
http://instantrimshot.com/index.php?sound=rimshot& play=true | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Useless Ford people, warehouse inventory shows 3 of the item I require apparently, I have already had to pay up front 280cad with taxes. Sorry, it didn't come in, they couldn't find any at the depot. When will you be getting me one then? There's one coming from Moncton (New Brunswick). Long pause. So when will it be here then? Tomorrow morning. Is that definite? Well it should be if the driver doesn't drop it at the wrong place. So much for Ford service in St Jean sur Richelieu. If it's not here tomorrow I'll cancel the order and take a trip down to VT. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Update; Called Ford dealer this morning, Yes it's here. I'll be right down. Not same part number on box, but that often doesn't mean much, I'll check anyway. Open the box, doesn't look the same. Parts guy says can't take it back it's a special order, I reply with, maybe so but it's not what I ordered. We then go through the whole file again where he takes the VIN again and checks again that the part number I already gave them twice is correct. He then announces that they've ordered the wrong part. NSS! The part I require is the airbag and steering wheel control clockspring, so it's not an adaptable piece. Well it's for a 2002 car he says, (as if the age of my vehicle has a direct correlation to their competence). After another few minutes on the computer he informs me that the part will take 4-6 days to come from the US and is a lot more expensive. When he sees my stony expression and the jets of steam escaping from my ears he hurriedly adds that they'll assume the error and there'll be no extra charge. The order is in we'll see what happens, 3rd time's the charm so they say. Does this happen to others? or am I being naive and overconfident in assuming that those I deal with know what they're about? | ||
| Tootal |
As soon as I saw NSS I knew what it meant and I've never seen it typed like that! Innes, I feel your pain. There are so many people that don't care about anybody but themselves. No inspiration to try and do a good job, just put in my time and collect a check! When you find a good parts man you stick with them! The two best Harley parts guys are now gone. One passed away and the other was fired because new owners didn't like what he was being paid! Those folks are worth every penny! Get rid of those expensive old guys, any kid can operate a computer and fetch a part! They just don't realize there is so much more to being a parts guy! | ||
| Etennuly |
Innes, I deal with that kind of incompetence buying parts frequently. It has become worse as time goes on. Our local non factory parts stores are really good at loosing good, experienced, knowledgeable help, and not realizing how much it cost them by putting in a know-it-all, smart assed, pimple faced kid, to deal with professional customers. I actually have come to hate parts ordering because of it. For most of my corporate fleet customers over the past ten years or so, I have worked it out to where they send me the parts needed for their vehicles. I do loose potential profit by doing this, but save gobs of time and hassle, and it keeps me from having my money tied up in their vehicles. I have to admit it is kind of an underlying almost evil fun telling 'their' parts guy he got it wrong, then I get to listen to his grumbling about lost shipping expenses and restocking fees.  This is an area that by instilling computers to be the "end-all answer to everything" they are dumbing down the industry. They want, and believe it works, to hire cheap idiots with no plan to be experienced, to be the face of the company. IMHO bad idea. But then, I come from an era where parts guys were true professionals, intelligent and trained like technicians, and got paid for doing so. They used to look parts up in books and had most common twelve digit parts numbers ingrained into their memory. Most importantly they knew what the parts were for and what changes had been made. These guys are nearly all gone now. | ||
| Hughlysses |
^ I think this kind of crap is a huge part of the reason places like rockauto.com are flourishing. I trust myself to pick the correct part a lot more than I trust the goof at the local auto parts store. | ||
| Tootal |
The demise of the retail store is because of several reasons. Retail stores must charge tax on purchases Retail stores, depending on which state they're in, might have to pay inventory taxes. That's taxes on things they haven't sold yet. Why do you think they don't stock anything and have to order almost anything you really want! Retail stores, in order to save money, get rid of experienced people and replace them with cheap labor with no desire to learn Now the internet allows: Being able to go to websites with the exploded view of parts and finding your part number yourself saves them from hiring competent and expensive people. If you order the wrong part it's your fault and you have to pay the restocking fee plus shipping. They set up warehouses in states where there is no inventory taxes. They ship to your door. I mean if the local retail store has to order it, you might as well order it and save yourself a trip to the retailer! I'm sure there's more reasons but this alone would kill just about any retailer! | ||
| 86129squids |
I remember as a kid, Mike, a Suzuki parts guy at my first shop who was a whiz at his job- knew parts numbers like the back of his hand, just cool to talk with to boot. Those guys are definitely going extinct. | ||
| Griffmeister |
"If you order the wrong part it's your fault and you have to pay the restocking fee plus shipping." Your not even safe online, scheisse happens. I recently ordered an air cleaner for my wife's Civic from a dedicated genuine online Honda parts supplier. Picked out the number myself, even confirmed the number at another site. When I get delivery, I open the box and what's inside? An oil filter, and it's not even the right one for my car. At least they ate the return shipping, but they wouldn't even send the right part until they had the wrong one back. I guess everything is designed now to make you wait. Here I thought we were in the age of instant gratification. | ||
| Fast1075 |
Reminds me of something from long ago. 1972 working at the Honda shop. Honda had a problem with poorly soldered ends on a batch of clutch cables for CB-100 bikes. The lever end of the cable would just pop off. We had calls from all over for people trying to find CB-100 clutch cables, and there were none to be had. However, a cable for a CL-100 which was identical except an inch or so longer for the higher bars fit fine. Somehow, we were the only shop in the region to realize this, until our parts guy called all the other shops and gave them a heads-up. Way too much "dunno" today. The other day I went into a parts store and asked for a spark plug by part number. Guy behind the counter could not figure it out because he needed the car model and engine info. I pointed the rack directly behind him and told him "NGK B-9ES, third box from right, second row from top". Duh! The problem was his computer listed the plugs by the 4 digit numerical part number, not the model. How do you sell plugs every day and not realize that? |
