| Author | Message | ||
     Mtnmason |
Thanks to the posters for all the info here and in other threads. I've been enjoying a week at the beach with family and SWORE to myself - NO POLITICS! Yet here I am. I'll have Lots of catch up reading to do this Sunday. Carry on. | ||
| Sifo |
Well, it's been a couple of days, so... 'Boom boom boom - he's killing the kids': Gunman shouting 'Allahu Akbar' executed children in Munich McDonald's before rampaging through mall killing NINE then turning the gun on himself | ||
| Snacktoast |
Wait...I thought Americans were the only ones that used guns to kill people, right? | ||
| Rick_a |
 That is correct. We have only gun problems. Everything else is workplace violence, hate crimes, and mental issues...with guns at fault. | ||
| Swampy |
Funny thing....the "press" is reporting the Munich shooter to not have ties to Islamic terror groups...the way they were reporting it for a while they actually made it sound like the fellow was a Nationalistic German taking his frustration out on his fellow citizens for not feeling the way he does about the Islamic invasion of his fair country... | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/what-know- ali-david-sonboly-8476548 "not have ties" just means he may not have trained in Pakistan, Syria, etc. Has zero informational content. The Norway crazy who attacked a kiddie camp was "protesting" the invasion of his country by Islamics. Quite properly a Domestic Terrorist attack. If you kill randomly, target innocents, kill to spread terror, Your cause, no matter how "good" does not matter. Understand, earlier this century, and going back thousands of years, "terrorism" on civilian targets was meant to get an over reaction out of the Government. When the Government's forces start laying a heavy hand on the population at large to try and stop the terrorists, it's supposed to make the people hate the government more than the terrorists. Paving the way to Revolution. There's still an aspect of that in the thinking of the Islamofascist/Obedient militant Muslim groups, BUT primarily the idea is to pit our love of life against a cult of death, and make the population submit to the new Islamic rulers out of fear. This pretty obviously works in Asia & to a lesser degree in Europe. It takes collaboration, unwittingly in some cases, to work. For example some accuse Angela Merkel of "hating the West" and pushing the wave of refugees to destroy traditional Germany. Some accuse Obama, another outsider, with a long history of hating Western Civilization, of doing the same thing, by deliberately importing refugees from Syria & the region. I accuse Obama of deliberately Pushing the refugee crisis with his multiple Obama Wars where he attacks, sometimes with bombs, always with words, secular governments in Africa & Mesopotamia, and the result is the taking over of those nations by The Muslim Brotherhood and/or AQ/ISIS/whatever this weeks name. Basically The Muslim Brotherhood is the parent organization for all the groups like AQ. There may be different leaders and they may not take orders well, but the goal is the same. Dar al Islam. Submission to Sharia & the Caliphate. The bad news for those groups, is that Americans are NOT European. The Press, & the Executive Branch, being conditioned leftists, respond the same way, but the Sheepdogs that make up a small percentage of the American Citizens do not. Proof of evolution, in a way. Americans are the distillation of the rebels on the rest of the planet. Hate oppression? Go to America. Folk from Europe, Asia, everywhere, come here to escape the results of leftist- elitist rule, Islamic oppression, etc. They do often find themselves telling us how our Glorious Leaders are following the same path that destroyed their homelands. We should listen. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_TURKEY_M ILITARY_COUP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT &CTIME=2016-07-23-09-08-18 looks more and more like a faked coup... for the purpose of destroying all opposition to Erdogan. | ||
| Aesquire |
The real problem is that Islamic terrorism feeds off the self-induced failures of the Middle East. Jihadists try to convince the Arab street that returning to religious fundamentalism and exporting jihad will empower Muslims to recapture lost primacy over a decadent and guilty West, just as in the mythical glory days of the caliphate. In truth, religious intolerance, gender apartheid, illiteracy, autocracy, statism, tribalism, and religious fundamentalism all guarantee poverty, economic stagnation, and scapegoating. While much of Asia and Latin America progressed through reform, the Middle East blame-gamed its miseries on affluent Western nations and on Israel. Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438125/obama -muslim-outreach-nightmare | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Any half-wit could see from day one that "coup" was an inside job. Turkey is not some backwater nation. They have a modern military, well trained with a competent command structure. No way in hell would any of their officers have launched such a poorly constructed coup. Heck, even a novice knows the first thing you do is cut off the head. Second thing you do is seize communication nodes, airports (infrastructure) necessary for free movement. You certainly don't allow the disposed leader to land his plane and go about his business! The world is setting itself up nicely for WW3 | ||
| Zac4mac |
They missed the "cut off the head" part by mere minutes. It's a rushed reaction and they really censored up. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
They didn't miss anything. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-security- plot-insight-idUSKCN0ZX0Q9 | ||
| Aesquire |
I seriously doubt the facts in that propaganda. Get a salt lick. A grain isn't nearly enough. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36842073 The Nazis of Hitler's Germany had lists and they could not have been as efficient at this. Obviously a long planned deception. I bet you Obama with his track record for supporting fascism gives Erdogan the sacrificial "cleric". Any takers on a bet how evil they can be? Barry was willing to destroy a man's life and imprison him to support a lie to get re-elected ( Libya-Filmmaker) so throwing a political refugee to be murdered by Erdogan seems trivial. | ||
| Hootowl |
We're witnessing the next Iran. Thanks Jimmy. I mean Barry. And the conquest continues. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Will Barry give Erdogan the 80 nukes stored at Incirlik AFB? | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-crisis-of-politica l-islam-1469223880 In a nutshell. Regimes battling the forces of Islam tend to be repressive and suck. ( Regimes battling the Forces of Communism tend to be repressive and suck. For the same reason. Battling congenital liars sucks. Ask anyone who knows Hillary. ) When Islam wins they go from suck to hell. ( Same's true for Socialism. ) We should learn from this. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
http://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/1994 052/coup-attempt-turkey-raises-nuclear-concern-us- air-base craziness | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/692793/Ansbach-ex plosion-Nuremberg-Germany-Blast I know Germany is a very controlled place. How did this nut case get a bomb? Home made or supplied by AQ/ISIS/TMB? This one may be completely unrelated to the Jihad. | ||
| Sifo |
This one may be completely unrelated to the Jihad. Too soon for jokes. | ||
| Mtnmason |
At this rate I'm afraid we need one of you programmer types to develop a bot that can auto-post headlines. French Priest Beheaded at Normandy Church: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3708394/Tw o-men-armed-knives-people-hostage-French-church.ht ml And just for clarification, we can still label it a 'terrorist attack' even if only one individual is murdered in the name of Allah, correct? If so, there must be hundreds in the course of a single day on average when you factor in Mid-Eastern countries. Maybe we just need to ball this thread up and forget it altogether. Too much work. | ||
| Torquehd |
I wonder how long it will be... before some islamist tries that here in the states... and is shot in the face as soon as he opens the sanctuary doors. I'd be interested to know what percentage of church services here in the states are completely without folks carrying concealed firearms. My guess is somewhere around 50%. | ||
| Hootowl |
Depends on the location of the church, I would imagine. Downtown Seattle, probably zero. Plano Texas? The preacher's packing. | ||
| Mtnmason |
I'd be interested to know what percentage of church services here in the states are completely without folks carrying concealed firearms. My guess is somewhere around 50%. I think that's going to depend a lot on denomination. Southern Baptists, Methodists, Pentecostals, Prebyterians - more than likely that someone is packing in many of those churches. Maybe even some Catholics and LDS but that probably depends a lot on location. Church of Christ/God, Unitarians, Episcopalians, big city Catholics - most would probably be aghast at the thought of someone bringing a tool of destruction into their congregations. Kinda makes you wonder. Do the jihadists have any knowledge concerning the denominational differences within Christianity?? I'm sure some do but the majority probably only see us as NOT Muslim thus we should be murdered or enslaved. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/pope-says-attacks-shows- world-war-religion-not-143150379.html Looks like time for a Catholic counter revolution. At the current rate this is the Last Pope. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/2016/07/25/a mnesty-turks-rounded-up-after-coup-attempt-starved -tortured-raped/?singlepage=true When they arrest you for speculating the Coup was a fake.... then the coup WAS a fake. Of course, some just took Obama's support for Erdogan as proof enough. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world /article92169982.html Possible change in tactics for ISIS. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/27/fren ch-media-to-stop-publishing-photos-and-names-of-te rrorists Some are complaining this is French cowardice. I think it's good strategy. It's part of the plan from Dean Ing's "Soft Targets" novel. Part two is to mock each attack as failures by fools. | ||
| Mtnmason |
So the slasher guy over there in London was supposedly a Somali. Highly doubt he had any contact with radical Islamists. At least that's what the media will have us think as they trip over themselves trying to convince us this was NOT a terror attack. Hmmm.... http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/696438/Russell-Sq uare-knife-terror-attack-stabbed-death-London-inju red | ||
| Aesquire |
If you were from Somalia you sure as sin had contact with jihadi. Odds are good it was fleeing from a massacre. Or cheering it on. | ||
| Mtnmason |
Sorry, forgot to add the "\sarc" denotation to: Highly doubt he had any contact with radical Islamists. Although it is very likely you'd have just as much exposure to radical Islam as citizen of Londonistan as you would a kid growing up in Somalia. I've never had any burning urge to travel abroad, but I have always wanted to see Ireland, England and France. I'm afraid I've waited too long. |
