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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2016 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Certainly looks like a ploy to emasculate the Army before they actually kick him out for being a fascist and imposing sharia.

Since Obama supports Erdogan, that is ALMOST proof of an overthrow of a secular nation and the rise of the Jihadi.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/erdogan-supporters-stand -guard-crushed-coup-bid-shakes-085215713--finance. html

Even before the coup attempt was over, Erdogan promised a purge of the armed forces. "They will pay a heavy price for this," he said. "This uprising is a gift from God to us because this will be a reason to cleanse our army."

At a rally late on Saturday, his supporters demanded that the coup leaders be executed. "Let's hang them!" chanted the crowd in Ankara's central Kizilay square. Erdogan told them that parliament may consider a proposal to bring back the death penalty, which has been abolished.

Erdogan's critics say he will use the purge to create a pliant judiciary, eliminating any dissenting voices in the courts.

Some European politicians have expressed their unease about developments since the coup attempt.


But certainly not Barry Taqiyya Hussein.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2016 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/haunting-t ext-message-found-phone-8437045
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2016 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Even to one so superficial as Clinton, it should by now be perfectly obvious that that there is no “Islam,” at least not if we are talking about a monolithic belief system. There are sects of Islam, all vying for supremacy in what is, in the main, a conquest ideology — with the various splinters having very different ideas about what conquest entails, and with no papal analogue to impose order by decreeing orthodoxy and condemning heterodoxy.

Clearly, some of these sects are our enemy. And just as clearly, these sects also have a legitimate claim on the designation “Islam.” That does not mean they have a monopoly on the interpretation of Islam (there, again, being no such monopoly). But it does oblige government officials responsible for national security to deal with jihadists and other sharia supremacists on their own terms.

Why? Because the objective is to defeat our enemies, not redefine them. To defeat the enemy still requires knowing the enemy. Try as he might, Obama is unable to fundamentally transform Sun Tzu.


Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437959/nice- islamic-terrorism-west-refuses-take-jihadist-ideol ogy-seriously
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2016 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The world is melting down fast. Would welding glasses protect one's eyes from a nuclear flash?
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Fast1075
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2016 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, shade 12+.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2016 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also, depends on your proximity and the yield of the device, height from ground etc.

Standard YMMV
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2016 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ferris, if you don't burst into flames, yes.

Few people today grasp the scale and the limits of nukes.

Back when "Duck & Cover" was shown in schools, the problem was 20 kiloton devices. Concentric circles....small area of hole, larger area of burnt & blown down, bigger area of flash blindness and skin burns, then broken windows & minor structural damage.

All in the area the size of a small city.

With the big Fusion devices developed later the circles get much bigger. ( Especially with Russian ICBM's that have bigger warheads to compensate for crappy accuracy )

So the entire center of the city is crater, blocks & blocks, and the damage circles are huge in proportion.

But the livable damaged zone is larger too. Well.... Broader. The totally trashed area is now bigger than the "wtf was that" zone for a Hiroshima sized bang. So a megaton to 20 megaton ( current service ) Bomb will leave a huge area that needs to be S&R'd.

You CAN live through a nearby nuke. If your house is still mostly intact you can make it. Yes, that's further away than it was in 1949, but the total area of survival is geometrically much bigger. ( Not counting the Larger Un-survivable area )

But you can't escape the area right after the bang. The roads will be full of panic and doom.

Smart thing is to hunker down in the basement, seal all gaps and toss dirt over basement windows, and hang in there about 2 weeks, then self extract if possible. Or uncork when the National Guard knocks & tells you to.

Mountain bike. Tyvek painter suit, duct tape, painters mask.

You do know how to make a radiation air filter from cardboard, duct tape and toilet paper, don't you?

Just found this... Amuse yourself. They assume 10 Kiloton range for a stolen/supplied/improvised bomb, which seems about right. Easy to make one in that size if you have enriched Uranium.

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2016 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKqXu-5jw60

Old School.

back before the Carter Admin & Civil Defense got shut down. Now we are supposed to wait for FEMA, to show up in a few days, and they don't teach how to survive anymore.

The Collective will save you helpless peasant. It's a matter of philosophy. The assumption by Carter was you're all doomed so why bother?
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2016 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And now back to your regularly scheduled Muslim terrorist attacks...

Germany train axe attack: Afghan teenage refugee shouting 'Allahu Akbar' goes on bloody rampage hacking passengers
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2016 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damn conservative right wing Christians.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2016 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Look at the difference.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/18/world/germany-train- stabbing/index.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/germany-tr ain-axe-attack-afghan-8445784

What you don't report is just as import as what you do.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2016 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You guys think some of these immigrants have some form of PTSD. Imagine some of these kids growing up seeing murders and stonings and beheadings like it was a normal thing. (If they do think it's normal... then they probably dont have PTSD and Hillary wants them to be you neighbor!!) I am for more refugee camps in Middle east. Thats where they need to be. They should want their country back right?
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Torquehd
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2016 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

why would you want your country back when your prophet and your god want you to rape and pillage the world for islam?

They must have heard about all the virgin sheep we have here in the US.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am pretty sure Ben Carson went over there to a few refugee camps and found that to be true.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The chi-com nukes are the ones we need to avoid. They have the largest yield currently fielded.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://shoebat.com/2016/03/25/president-obama-next -week-will-open-the-largest-american-mosque-in-the -world-built-here-in-the-u-s-he-will-be-accompanie d-by-antichrist-erdogan-of-turkey-and-together-wil l-enjoy-the-sounds-of-allahu/

Oh boy, can't wait !
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can we order one of those Chinese nukes on Alibaba? ( not that I would suggest parking in in Maryland, oh no, not me. I just want it for home defense against break ins. ; ) )

You can buy fresh human organs for transplant, in China, they pick out a political prisoner and harvest it fresh. So by the standard complaint about unregulated capitalism, ( That you can buy human parts in the market ) is alive and well there.

Ironic that it's still a brutal "Communist" dictatorship while embodying the worst of Capitalism. ( I put Communism in quotes since it's never really been a Communism, China has just replaced the Emperor with the Committee. Just like Russia and elsewhere. )



Realistically, we are far more likely to see terrorism with stolen or sold without permission Russian nukes, or Pakistani nukes. N. Korean is a bit less likely, but possible, and actual home grown nukes from Iran are, thanks to Barry, inevitable.

If I was going to guess WHEN? Iran has been 2-5 years away for decades. Based on open source data from Europe, IMHO 1 1/2 years from now. So, Xmas 2017. The target for the First one is your guess, Tel Aviv & NYC at the same time looks like the best propaganda combo to me. D.C. seems safe as long as President Taqiyya is in office.
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Airbozo
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Personally I feel blaming any administration for Iran's nuclear ambitions is a joke. They have been working on similar programs for decades regardless of any actions by the rest of the world. We should be more scared that Pakistan and India have nukes (mainly due to them falling into someone else control).

Iranian leaders are also smart enough to know that if they target any western ally, they will bring hell-fire down upon themselves. Selling one might be another issue, but if it was ever traced back to them, the same thing would happen and they know it.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your logic always eludes me. So, ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc. are dumb? Iran is the nexus of radical Islam.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Personally I feel blaming any administration for Iran's nuclear ambitions is a joke. The Joke's Name is Jimmie Carter. Without him handing them a country, their Nuclear Ambitions would mean little.

To be fair, the State Dept. Weenie they sent to Paris to meet the murderous preacher in person came back and said he was a saint. Which just proves the State dept. should have all the management sent to Diego Garcia.

You can keep the Translators that Hillary's Minions didn't know that State had when they had a button made to present to the Russian President that did not say what they thought it did.

What I Blame Obama for is helping Iran's Mullahs get the Bomb so they can kill Jews and Muslims in Israel, Christians and Atheists in America, and Muslims not exactly of their brand everywhere.

Iranian leaders are also smart enough ....

Sure they are smart, but that has nothing to do with it. They are certain that Barry won't touch them no matter what and if they start Armageddon, they WIN.

Christians have this End Times prophesy that I personally think many confuse with Nostradamus. It involves century long battles that slaughter pretty much everyone.... ( and make me wonder if the Vedas from India may have influenced one of the later prophets. )

Ah! The sect of Islam that rules Iran has a prophesy that some preacher will rise from a well, ( In Qom IIRC ) All hell breaks loose, and in the end they win. You're dead and only obedient Muslims will be left in a paradise on earth. This is not a universal belief in Islam, it's the core of the particular sect that rules Iran, Shia.

See also 12th Imam, and apocalyptic prophesy.

The 12th Imam is supposed to appear again and bring peace to the world.

That means you & I are dead.

Unless you plan to convert and become a second class peasant before Dar el Harb is conquered.
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Airbozo
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ISIS and AlQaeda have no country to worry about being made into an uninhabitable glass ocean. Never said they were dumb.

I know many Iranians, some of them are even Christians. They might not like what the US has done to them over the years but they can distinguish between the citizens and government. Not that the rhetoric hasn't managed to cloud their thoughts, but they know attacking the US or an ally with nuclear weapons would bring certain destruction upon their country.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Iranians built a highway and a temple over the well that this 12th Imam is supposed to spring forth from.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ISIS has no country? Um. Seriously?

Sure, it's run more like the Mob than the Aussie Parliament, but so was Afghanistan under the Followers of the Talib. ( Taliban )

It's their status as holding land in the name of the Prophet that gives ISIS legitimacy in the eyes of Muslims. It's a country that ships oil. Exports death. Has borders and an army and a treasury.

AQ isn't a country, true. Nor is the Muslim Brotherhood, although they did rule Egypt briefly.

I know many Iranians, some of them are even Christians. They might not like what the US has done to them over the years but they can distinguish between the citizens and government.

So do I, and so can I. When the citizens of Iran called out and asked for help to get the yoke of the religious zealots off their necks, Barry did nothing, because He already was in negotiation with the Mullahs. Folk you literally cannot have peace with. It's their law. It is permissible and a blessing by their Law to sign a treaty that you plan to break later to get an advantage. They've already broken the treaty. And Dared anyone to respond.

And they have promised to kill Israel & America.

I have NOTHING against the Iranian PEOPLE.

I support their desire to get rid of the Priests that rule over them, Priest that order the torture & murder of gays and women in public, proudly.

I'm well aware of the difference between Iran's people and the Holy Murderers that oppress them. I'm on the Iranian's side.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've met Iranians over the years that left when the Shah was ousted. I'm not sure what they have to do with the current crazies running Iran. After all, if they were sympathetic to the current regime they wouldn't have left the country.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know a few Iranians. They prefer to be called Persians. The Iran they knew no longer exists.
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Torquehd
Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2016 - 01:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What will we conservative American Loyalists prefer to be called when the America we know/knew no longer exists? We better figure out a name here pretty quickly.

There's a pretty convincing youtube video that discusses why, according to scripture, the antichrist will come from Turkey.

The beast that had a fatal wound to his head and yet lived, and the whole world marvelled at it. Could Erdogan's attempted overthrow be a fatal headwound that he recovered from? The whole world is in awe of islamism - not in awe in a good way but in a WTF way. mohammed's bat-shit crazy teachings and prophecies were so close to (and yet so far from) biblical teaching that I think he was truly having visions and revelations - from some unholy minion of satan who turned truth inside out. and decieves many.

I think this will continue to get a whole lot worse.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2016 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will Obama's parting gift to Erdogan be the reported 80 nukes we have stored at Incirlik AFB.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2016 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Look at the difference.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/18/world/germany-train- stabbing/index.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/germany-tr ain-axe-attack-afghan-8445784

What you don't report is just as import as what you do.


What do you expect when CNN is being paid by the government to provide propaganda.

CNN Exposed – Emmy Winning Former CNN Journalist, Amber Lyon, Blows The Whistle…
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2016 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funny, none of the propaganda companies masquerading as news are reporting that they are servile & paid minions.

The British press is better but you have to remember two things.

Very biased coverage depending on the company. If you know the bias you can cross reference and get close to unvarnished truth. ( thanks Rocket )

The Saudi govt. Owns the news clearing house that processes all news from the middle east. Based in London. Nearly all stringers from the region are passed through the one, highly biased, propaganda organization paid for by the Royal House of Saud.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2016 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-14703480
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