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Tpehak
| | Posted on Saturday, April 13, 2024 - 08:05 pm: | 
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I know only about the civilians killed directly by Israel. |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Saturday, April 13, 2024 - 09:30 pm: |
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So you admit to willful ignorance. |
Tpehak
| | Posted on Saturday, April 13, 2024 - 09:55 pm: |
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I admit the Israel propaganda tries not hard enough.
By the way, it looks like you are not aware that those civilians on the party during the Hamas attack were actually killed by the Israel army. Israel initially claimed those civilians on the party were killed by Hamas, but then the futages exposed the truth and Israel admitted that those civilians were actually killed by Israel army from Apache helicopters. The Israel excuse is that the helicopters pilots did not know that there is a party and they just shot there thinking there is only Hamas. It ended up the Israel helicopters shot the civilians and their cars on the road.
So yes, even Israel admits the killed civilians on the party during the Hamas attack is because of the Israel army shot them.
And there is not only footages of the helicopters strikes, there are footages how the Israel army infantry stopped the traffic on the road and took cover behind the civilians cars on the road with civilians inside during the response on the Hamas attack. WTF!?
(Message edited by TPEHAK on April 13, 2024) |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Saturday, April 13, 2024 - 10:39 pm: |
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I am aware that they accidentally killed civilians. I
am also aware that hamas is 100 percent responsible, as they were the instigators of the current iteration of the shooting match. All those people would still be alive had hamas not intentionally attacked Israeli civilians back in October. Israel does not intentionally target civilians, hamas does. There is a very clear moral difference. |
Tpehak
| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 12:40 am: |
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The Hamas attack does not excuse the killing of the civilians.
Stop trying to swipe under the rug the anti human approach of Israel.
(Message edited by TPEHAK on April 14, 2024) |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 01:09 am: |
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100 percent the fault of hamas. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 01:14 am: |
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https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/04/a-s low-motion-war.php
U.S. and International law is clear and simple. Those who commit a felonious crime, bank robbery, murder etc. Are Responsible for All deaths in the commission of the crime. Including accidents, accidental death by police or military action against the criminals.
Hamas is 100% responsible. Period.
Just as the Islamist terrorists that took hostages in that Moscow theater, killing some, were completely responsible for the deaths caused by Russian forces in the gas attack on the theater.
Now, in my opinion bad judgement by the Russian authorities happened, the "sleep gas", a nerve agent, was deadly in the theater, it apparently was untested in such a setting, and the people who made the wrong in retrospect decision should lose their jobs for the error. Assuming it wasn't a case of "kill them all, God will know his own.". But the pressing of criminal charges, and any lawsuits against the police, are matters of local law. The responsibility for all the deaths was on the terrorists. Period.
Even, hypothetically, if you were holding a woman at knife point, threatening to gut her if I didn't give you what you wanted, and I threw an axe into your head, and you murdered the woman before you died, her death is on You, not me. If I was a law enforcement officer, I'd be subject to charges if I disobeyed orders, but you'd be the murderer, and I'd just have failed to save her. Same if I killed both of you with the weapon. Your crime, your responsibility. Worst case, I kill her and you live, you get charged with her murder. |
Tpehak
| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 05:18 am: |
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Palestinians claim tonight was the first night within last half a year when Gaza was not bombed.
Iran without issues was able to overcome the Israel anti anti systems. The airfield Ramon is completely destroyed. There are multiple successfull strikes in Israel cities.
Hamas is not responsible for the anti human decisions Israel made. Hamas is 100% responsible only for what Hamas did, not for the Israel anti human actions.
Stop trying to trick us saying that the criminal irresponsible actions of Israel caused the death of the civilians is on Hamas.
Even police officers are not allowed to shoot the criminal treating someone with a knife if there is a lot of people around can be harmed during the shooting.
(Message edited by TPEHAK on April 14, 2024) |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 07:10 am: |
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Wrong as usual.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/14/middleeast/israel-a ir-missile-defense-iran-attack-intl-hnk-ml/index.h tml
Military forces do not operate under the same rules as law enforcement. Civilians die in warfare. The only way to prevent it is to not start wars. Hamas started a war. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 10:42 am: |
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https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/04/aft er-last-night-53.php
Yep, FAFO. Hamas is the responsible party. Iran is their sponsor, and the responsible party, so the leaders of both are open season targets for anyone who values civilization.
It's just a linguistic chance that 3 of 4 big murder minion groups of the Mullahs start with "H". ( PLA doesn't, duh )
All 5 groups are terrorist regimes, and the biggest problem is not killing Too Many civilians in the process of sending the leaders to their final moments.
The agitprop that Israel is the Bad Guy is a lie since 1948, when the surrounding Arabs started a war, and ordered the Judean Arabs to run, to disrupt their enemies. You can trace the hatred back before The Prophet, before the Philistines, but the so called Palestinians are Ottoman Empire dregs invaders in the region who got screwed by the Arab kings, now long dead.
Speaking of responsible for everything Bad Guys, Putin's excuses for war and mass murder of civilians are clearly bogus.
And yes, I'm well aware of the Resistance to the Russian take over in Eastern Ukraine used as part of the excuse. The expansion of NATO to the escaped slave states with the fall of the Soviet Union started with Bush, but Obama deserves full credit ( blame ) for his actions in this century's wars. His obvious goal wasn't the conquest of Russia, though. It's the conquest of Europe through the twin dooms of Socialist E.U. bureaucracy and Islamic Invasion.
Now if Putin had declared a Crusade to free Europe from Jihad, instead of Grand Theft Industrial Region of a sovereign nation, I might be praising him for a patriotic Christian Hero. ( and Obama's Media would slander him worse than today )
But his Sudetenland Excuse, that's not even original. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 10:50 am: |
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Speaking of responsible for their actions Bad Guys. & antisemitic useful idiots.
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/04/14/aoc-cried-when -iron-dome-was-funded-n2395076 |
Tpehak
| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 12:45 pm: |
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The footages proove the Israel anti air defense systems were not able to hit a lot of stuff. CNN lies again, probably in effort to deescalate the conflict.
(Message edited by TPEHAK on April 14, 2024) |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 02:09 pm: |
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Oh I agree cnn lies. But every non russian/iranian propaganda outlet is reporting the same thing. |
Tpehak
| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 02:19 pm: |
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They are reporting the same thing is because of the Israel officials reported it. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 02:33 pm: |
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Don't forget Hoot, in Russia, telling the truth can be fatal. That doesn't do nice things to mental health.
The only cure is truth. The mentally ill always get upset when reality doesn't match their delusions. But if they can get past the denial, there's hope. |
Whisperstealth
| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 03:47 pm: |
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Telling the truth can be fatal in the USA as well. I'd say ask many a former Clinton associates, but you can't. |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2024 - 04:19 pm: |
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Pfft. Ask any former Trump official. Oh wait, you cannot, they are in prison on trumped up charges.  |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2024 - 04:42 am: |
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https://elmtreeforge.blogspot.com/2024/04/what-oba ma-was-protecting-iran-and.html
America's First Communist & Taqiyya President is a terrorist organization supporter. The Composite Character of secret funding for his college and political careers, favors The Muslim Brotherhood cults in his interference in foreign countries, and gave billion$ to the Iranian Mullahs, ostensibly as Danegeld aka ransom. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2024 - 06:56 am: |
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https://townhall.com/columnists/alanjosephbauer/20 24/04/15/what-happened-over-the-skies-of-israel-wa s-extraordinary-n2637779
One problem with being raging a-holes, is all your friends are lousy scumbags and no one rational likes you.
Why did Jordan help out? The Mullahs threatened the Kingdom. Literally issued public threats in an attempt to keep Jordan from allowing Israeli planes to cross Jordan to strike Iran in retaliation for their missile attacks.
The King is no fool. The Mullahs and their murder minions are the greatest threat to him, and his subjects. He's apparently a rare monarch who believes fealty works both ways, or not at all.
I expect public quiet and private communications with the IDF are ongoing.
All the oil producing countries in the region are threatened by Iran. And would not mind at all if oil exports from Iran stopped and cranked up their income. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2024 - 07:09 am: |
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Putin is many horrific things, but stupid isn't on his list of Satanic vices. He's happy to get drones from Iran, and loves the distraction from his plans to conquer the escaped slave states.
If he sees the Mullahs are going down, he has lots of incentive to take advantage of a spike in oil prices and both a lock on European energy, and an economic disaster ongoing in China, which would accelerate if Iranian oil stopped flowing their way.
It's unfair to call Putin a communist, as a leader/executive he's known that the cult is just a cover for evil rule, the excuse/fake rituals of tyranny. And stab in the back is his specialty. ( or nerve agent, polonium, balcony tossing, aircraft bombs, etc. ) |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2024 - 11:48 am: |
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https://9gag.com/gag/agm37Kr
Death threat your city council...
I gotta say, I can dig the frustration of dealing with politics. This chick is wrong in every moral and factual way, utterly brainwashed by evil, it's like watching a young Nazi, but worse, she's the dark avatar of privilege. |
Tpehak
| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2024 - 02:04 pm: |
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Palestinians blocked the bridge
https://youtu.be/j2DP9XOVlFc?feature=shared |
Crusty
| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2024 - 04:21 pm: |
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I think they were Russian agents. |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2024 - 05:40 pm: |
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Easy. Block both ends of the bridge. Arrest everyone. Try them in federal court on charges of unlawful restraint. US 101 is under federal jurisdiction. |
Whisperstealth
| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2024 - 05:52 pm: |
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Then send them all to Palestine. Let them live under Hamas for the rest of their lives. However short it is. |
Whisperstealth
| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2024 - 05:55 pm: |
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That Indian Girl is one woke chick. So woke she's completely unconscious...
I'm sure she will fare well in jail. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 - 12:40 am: |
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2024/04/15 /saudi-arabia-publicly-acknowledges-it-helped-defe nd-israel-this-weekend-n2637835 |
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