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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2016 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While California may be at the forefront of certain legal issues, they have no legal weight in other states.

Au contraire! California Air Resource Board pollution laws are mirrored in NY. In what seemed like a good way to save taxpayer dollars, the Legislature decided we didn't need an Air Resource Board of our own, and we'd just let California do the heavy lifting. In reality that money went to folk that bribed the Governor, but that's never going to be mentioned in the press.

So Californian Utopian Fantasy laws are indeed affecting poor sods in other parts of the country.

California & New York are the Capitals of self absorbed super provincialism.

New York City types even have their own maps of the U.S. which uh, somewhat compress "flyover country". This accurately represents the average person's knowledge of American geography & history. Sure, that famous "New Yorker" map is supposed to be a joke... but it really isn't.

The fact that "flyover country" is seldom used in an ironic manner, but simply as the way things are.... proves that.

Of course, there are individual Citizens of the United States living in New York City that are not ignorant rubes. You'll never see them on TV.

https://pbmo.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/view-of-t he-world.jpg
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2016 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.buzzfeed.com/hillaryreinsberg/13-maps- all-new-yorkers-will-appreciate?utm_term=.pdaRr3yM q#.rgPV60pJm

For Court.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2016 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are countless things that Kalifornia does with it's laws, that become de facto law across the nation. When you have do do business across the US, the Kalifornia market is too big to ignore, but too small to specialize for. So every gets diluted to the least common denominator.

Aftermarket performance parts are just one example. If you want to sell to Kalifornia, you have to be C.A.R.B. compliant. That's expensive, and restricts design. It's generally a far better business model to just build a single part, rather than one for Kalifornia, and one for the US market. The cost of C.A.R.B. compliance gets passed on to all 50 states. This goes on in all sorts of businesses.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2016 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Love it !

There's a smidgen of truth in all of them!

NYC sucks so bad that 475,000 folks PER DAY come to be amazed.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2016 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I consider NYC like Disneyworld.

An artificial environment that is, like an amusement park, great to visit, full of wonderful things, and good to leave when you're out of time to see more.

I haven't always lived in the country or suburbia. I lived in what passes for a city locally. Sure it's no Brooklyn, but we have parks, ghettos, rich and poor within blocks of each other, high levels of drug gang violence, and a couple of nice museums. Not a spot on Manhattan, of course. ( which is considered a small town by Tokyo residents )

While I do miss the range of culinary and artistic offerings my old 'hood had, I can drive there inside 20 minutes. And honestly, the pizza in small towns nearby is decent, if lacking in variety. Local pizza is mostly a medium crust, often with toppings, and closer to Pizza Hut than Uno or NYC "fold & eat & what's a topping" pizza where the bread & sauce dominate. We do have some Sicilian, NYC and other regional pizza joints.

Also I find national chain wings joints to be lacking.

We have Buffalo style & Chitney ( local mangling of Chutney ) fruit based sauce. Often citrus & vinegar based with lots of red pepper flakes. The "chitney" sauces seem to be a local invention, somewhat independent of Indian cuisine. ( just as Buffalo sauce is, originally, butter/margarine & Hot Sauce. ( Franks or Crystal etc. depending on bar of origin. If the Anchor began the trend with Franks, the competition went to Crystal to be different )

I've been known to carry a jar with me on trips to pour on overly bland food. I've offended people from many ethnicities that way! : )

I do love the food our legal immigrants bring us.
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2016 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CA, NY, IL and other such states are a train wreck and nothing to follow.

Good for Britain. They have some tough years ahead, I'm sure, but I respect their decision.

Nobody likes being downtrodden by the ruling elite.
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2016 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I lived in England for 4 years. The public won't put up with much. They protest like crazy. They have strong Unions that join each other to further their cause. When the railworkers have a contract issue the other transportation unions join them to get there contract through. They will shut London down.
While I was living there, they had a strike at a Caterpiller plant. The union member stormed the plant and tore up the equiptment and machines. This is the kind of stuff that gets results. You have to fight fire with fire. They don't just lay down or bend over. Bully!

My son lives there now. I get firsthand what his generation is facing. Ever since they have joined EU their country has been saturated by foreigners coming in to get on the social systems that have been in place for the needy and for the most part used by the needy. These systems are being abused by the foreigners to the extent it's breaking the country. The job market is saturated by the same foreigners. They will work for far less and are soaking up all the jobs. Quite similar to what is happening here the only difference is that since they were part of the EU it was all done legally where as here is done illegally for the most part. I just wonder how much more the citizens of this country will tolerate before they have the balls to get off their asses and do something.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2016 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2016 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/683739/EU-r eferendum-German-French-European-superstate-Brexit

If you are a fisherman in Spain, a miner in Germany, or a farmer in Belgium, you share one common bond. The bureaucrats in Brussels know nothing of your jobs, your needs, and how the laws they write and impose on you by simple decree affect you. Nor do they care.

Those un-elected bureaucrats no doubt make more money, paid by you, than you do. They have no reason to be moderate or considerate in making rules for your life. There is no reason for them to care about you at all. Your opinion has nothing to do with them. You can't get them fired, you can't sue them for ruining your business, and they can just take your money right out of your bank, and decree like the Kings of Olde that your business must be shut down, for any reason that strikes their fancy. Perhaps they don't like Lutefisk. Perhaps they fear the oceans will rise because you grow peas. Perhaps they were bribed by a competitor to ruin your business so they can monopolize the market and raise prices.

In short, We Are Important and You Are scum.

and that's why Brexit. And that's why the communists, Big Nanny State lovers and even a few rational people oppose the referendum.

Now, AFAIK the Bureaucrats in Brussels don't send their secret police off to murder people at whim, ( Unlike people like Putin or Obama ) but how would I know that? Secret, eh? Putin denies that he does, and it's freaking obvious. Obama would deny it, if he wasn't busy telling us that Jihadi attacks on us are the fault of the NRA and those pesky citizens. ( besides, he'a already bragged about how good he is at killing people. Being Obama that meant he made a phone call and someone else did the dirty work he takes credit for )

So, in Many ways the EU is not quite as bad the the Obama Regime, or the People's Republic of China, or The North Korean Cult Of Personality.

However, as an American Citizen, I can't help but notice the Obama regime is worse in every category I listed as the sins of the EU.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2016 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We deserve better leaders

Unfortunately, Court, only incompetent morons and egotists are dumb enough (or egotistical enough) to mount a campaign anymore. There is zero draw for the truly "good" people to give enough of a shit to make the effort. And unfortunately the voting public (who has bred these egotist-morons)...are too dirt-dumb as a group, to know any better, so even if there WAS a worthwhile candidate...they'd end up a footnote, long before primary time.

In order to draw better leaders, we need to fix the system. In order to fix the system, we need better leaders.

Would you like some egg, or some chicken?
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Airbozo
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2016 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Au contraire! California Air Resource Board pollution laws are mirrored in NY."

That is NY's fault not California's. If it were not for the C.A.R.B. LA's pollution would have reached Albuquerque by now. I do see the good in it, but also am affected by the bad from time to time (hard to get a baffle for my Buell, but I don't have to smog my 1975 FJ40 anymore). Seriously, states like Arkansas should not be the model for pollution standards across the US. I also feel that the automakers need _some_ incentive to clean up their products. Without the C.A.R.B. standards, companies like Tesla would not be where they are today.

At least we get to vote on most of these amendments and chose the leaders who introduce bills. I feel that if the EU was a little more democratic, then things might have been different for Britain.Not having any say whatsoever in the laws and leaders would be a no go for me as well.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2016 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I do see the good in it"

As do I. However, sometimes I think that the pendulum has swung too far. Now we have a bunch of rule makers who need to continuously make new rules in order to keep their jobs.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2016 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I totally agree you need pollution laws.

In fact, I point at the nations whose leaders are worshiped and admired by the like of Bernie, Barry, and Hillary, as prime examples of governments who are NOT ruled by their people and cause pollution on a planetary scale. The Soviets killed a Sea. Chinese pollution is visible from space, and affects the Continental U.S. You can measure Chinese air pollution in LA.

No meaningful feedback from the peasants means the kings don't care. Who cares if an industrial center far from the capital has air that literally kills people on the streets? Doesn't bother the Leaders. As far as the Masses go? Who cares? Pain in the butt to keep placated and fed. Red China has long had the attitude that killing off a couple of million slaves is a win win. Less mouths to feed, less trouble to keep control over.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea

Killed. A. Sea.

Sure, the worst of the robber barons of America caused ecological messes. But even though the "Greenie" movement was co-opted by Authoritarian Leftists, and routinely uses lies and massive misinformation to gain power, having a Representative govt. means if enough people bitch, stuff sometimes gets done.

BTW, Airbozo, have you flown near the giant Solar collectors? I've been told they are a visual blinding hazard to aviation over a huge area.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2016 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Killed. A. Sea."

Yep. To benefit the cotton industry. At the expense of several other industries (not to mention entire cities). That's what state control of the economy gets you.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2016 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And remember, in the words of PJ Oroarke... lack of pollution is a luxury good. You care about it when your kids aren't starving to death.

If prosperity was the planet killer it is claimed to be, why are the richest places the cleanest?

Want to clean up the planet? Make sure everyone owns property, and has a job that lets them keep it and keep their kids fed.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2016 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3662827/Ha s-Britain-avoided-European-superstate-France-Germa ny-draw-plans-morph-EU-countries-one-control-membe rs-armies-economies.html#newcomment

Looks like GB got out at the right time
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Airbozo
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hootowl:

I personally feel that for every law created, one must be removed from the books. Hell make it two until the really lame and old ones are gone.

Aesquire:

Have not flown close to it, but the S-I-L has and took some pictures. Scary to think the reflection can cause issues with other flights.

Reepicheep: Look at a TED talk with The Ugly Indian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf1VA5jqmRo

Interesting stuff.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I personally feel that for every law created, one must be removed from the books. Hell make it two until the really lame and old ones are gone.

Something I have advocated for years. Including posts here.

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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A poster here may occasionally admit they were mistaken.

A legislator? Almost never.

The idea to get rid of an old law before we can have a new one is good. Not original but still good.

How about ( this comes from Heinlein I think )
2 houses of congress. ( we've already got that )
One house can pass a law only with a two thirds majority.
The other can delete laws with a one third minority.

If a law seems bad to a third of the people it's probably worth dumping.
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Doz
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Addressing the original question: I doubt that the vote went to exit because "O" told them to stay...maybe had some small amount, but not enough to tip that scale. However, I do feel that the resulting turmoil will have an effect on our elections. those who want to be "cared for" will now vote for "H". Those that want to be independent minded will vote for Donald.
I have a close friend that lives in England and he supports the exit knowing full well the difficult process will eventually lead to a stronger country. I support this way of thinking and hope the same for our country
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/28/nigel-f arage-shares-cosy-embrace-with-jean-claude-juncker /
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>I doubt that the vote went to exit because "O" told them to stay...maybe had some small amount,

It's no more than speculation as to if he influenced anyone . . . I like to think that no more folks, in the EU (or formerly in the EU) listen to him that here.

Fact of the matter is he had no more business meddling in their affairs than Putin would coming here and telling us how to act.
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Doz
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually folks there are keen to what's happening here. I had Sammy Miller (yes, THE Sammy Miller) ask me if I was going to vote for Trump...and he was expecting me to answer-yes.
And as for Putin, I think many here would be interested in his ideas.
(shows what a cluster fart is going on with our gov't).
Bottom line, people should be more informed about this stuff.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>people should be more informed about this stuff.

If you want to see what the problem is . . . . walk up and ask about any 25 year old to name . . . .

A) The Vice President
B) The Attorneys General
C) Their Governor
D) The Capital of California

You'll find about 10%-15% have the slightest clue as to what the hell is going on . . . . .

By the way . . . . (cheat sheet) . . . .that will be the "opening pop quiz" in my first class meeting in the fall semester.

I've found a very strong correlation to possessing basic knowledge of the world and the propensity to learn.

Call me old fashioned.
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Airbozo
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,
You and the SO have similar views on education and educating. She would get a giggle out of your pre-test. She does something similar to all of her students at the start of each semester.

Now that she is teaching Government and Economics again, she is in a much better place (she has been teaching various levels of mathematics for quite some time). She is actually excited about starting the new year (sick in the head I tell ya...).
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A. Just Joe.
B. Lynch Mob
C. Emperor Andrew The First
D. Pyongyang ; )
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In Long Beach, California, it is considered obscene for a horse to wear a hat in public.



Carry on.
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And I thought the answer to D was Ciudad de México
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/06/28/4chan-pran ks-bbc-on-new-brexit-petition/

If true, this gives me really bad ideas.

Hypothetically speaking, ONLY, opinions? Suggestions?
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2016 - 06:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

4chan has its moments when, WHEN, most of the shitposters get on the same page.
They (back in the day) used to have a pretty good resource machine.
They would gather together and do DOS attacks the hard way.
4chan is where Anonymous was born, and is still there today, in some form or another.
As far as the prank Almost fifty thousand signatures from Vatican City that's classic!
4chan on a good day can help, on a bad day anything on that site can backfire, or on a bland day maybe nothing would happen.
Anarchy at its best, and worse.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/e u/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-deh ydration.html
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2016 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I stand on the fact that EVERY dead person at some time in their life drank WATER.
It is Obvious that this is a poison to avoid at at all costs.

Be safe drink BEER.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That has been good advice for tens of thousands of years.

In fact except in local small temporary circumstances, historically, drinking water is quite hazardous.

Please correct me but most drinking of any beverage in the Bible is beer & wine. Alcohol kills germs.

Water borne disease kills a lot of people.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In beer there is strength.
In wine there is wisdom.
In water there is bacteria.

Attributed to Ben Franklin, but that can't be right. The word didn't exist during his lifetime.

Also, it should be "In water there are bacteria.
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