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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 01:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This bird was rescued after its family was mauled by a predator.

While I would have let nature take its course, the wife took pity on the lone survivor.








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Alfau
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 03:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



(Message edited by alfau on June 12, 2016)
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 06:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is you wife a wildlife rehabilitator? If not I'd get the bird to one. Those birds are federally protected and there are some pretty stiff penalties if department of natural resources get wind of it. Having said that thanks for taking the time and effort to do a rescue.
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No worries. It was set free days ago.

They're all over this area. These had a nest inches outside our front door.

One was missing, one dead, one mauled and died later. The healthy bird was left out for a day plus and its parents did not return.

Immediately after being found the wife called the local wildlife rehabilitation center repeatedly and they never called back. They probably could have saved the injured bird, but likely had better things to do.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let me get this right . . . you released the bird or the kid into the wild?
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The kid has a few years yet!
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kids are resilient. Emancipation!
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bird has an open door.

For the boy, no takebackski's!
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good on ya, buddy! Lord knows I needed that bit of good news this Sunday morning... "His eye is one the sparrow", indeed.

We've got a few of those little guys around, for their size they sing BIG! The English house sparrows are out-competing them, so what you've done is certainly a good thing. FWIW we're not seeing nearly the number of hummingbirds we've come to expect, hardly one or two females and that's it... after dang near making the property a "hummie truckstop". ; )
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2016 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That they do.

I haven't seen any humming birds in these parts, though there's many magnificent birds seen daily. Ospreys, seasonal swallow tailed kites (absolutely beautiful), great blue herrons, vultures and turkey vultures (ugly on the ground but most graceful in flight), red shouldered hawks, sparrows, mockingbirds (often chasing off other much larger birds without fear), barred owls, pileated woodpeckers, bald eagles, bluejays, cardinals, etc.

We used to have a mockingbird that would sing in a tree out front from ~2am to daybreak. I kinda miss it. It always signaled when I was up too late.
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 01:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Haven't you heard?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 07:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heard what?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 07:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

outstanding!
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was waiting to jump on that.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2016 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was hoping someone would.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Awesome predatory birds. They keep the spiders off the house.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Those birds are federally protected and there are some pretty stiff penalties if department of natural resources get wind of it."

So you're telling us that rescuing a baby Wren from an abandoned nest on your front porch will bring the full force and weight of the federal govt down upon ones head, if they hear about it?

Seriously?

If that is accurate. I'd not doubt it given the juggernaut bureaucracies of our federal govt. They recently shot a guy in Oregon using a military sniper tactics team. The time has come to lop the head off of big brother and put him back in his place, out on watch guarding and defending our rights, not molesting people.

Is that a House Wren or Carolina Wren? We have the Carolina variety here in East Texas.


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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - 02:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a Carolina Wren.

The wife actually contacted several neighboring agencies, from the Wildlife Conservation Commission to wildlife rehabilitation and animal rescue centers in this and surrounding counties. Only the local rehabilitation center called back to inform her that they no longer dealt with birds due to the cost of the licensing, and offering advice on care and feeding.

It's a shame as two of them may have survived instead of one. It's said the resulting infection is often what kills, not the actual injuries. Nature is a cruel bitch, and so are the surrounding wildlife centers, apparently.


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Awesome predatory birds. They keep the spiders off the house.



Not well enough, apparently. Found a spider bite on my waistline a couple mornings ago. A young spider was discovered by the wife the day prior. Nasty little welt.

The bird wasn't too bright, either. It landed on the dog once and was completely oblivious to the cat. Neither would have treated it well. You'd think after getting mauled by what was likely a domestic cat that it'd have some kinda natural instinct towards them. Nope.

Maybe it's just us humans making the connection but it had a lot of personality for a silly little bird.
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Airbozo
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Last week we had several baby ravens popping about our back yard at different times. The first one was on a very large redwood stump for a couple of days being fed by the parents (who we've watched grow up as well), and one day I came home and it was gone. We noticed that one of the parents was upset and ended up finding the baby hiding in another redwood grove, obviously injured. Mom was pissed that we found the baby and started dive bombing us.

Called the Animal wildlife rescue folks who came over and grabbed the baby to help it out. They discovered it had a broken wing, and are rehabilitating it and will release it back in our yard once it is healed. If it does not heal, they will euthanize it. I asked if we could setup an aviary in our yard and let it live out it's life near the rest of it's family and we were told that federal laws require us to hold a wildlife "educational" permit in order to keep a wild bird as a "pet". This would also require us to provide proof we were taking the bird to events and teaching about it's species, plus a $500/yr permit fee.

Funny thing is, I already have a very large aviary for my Blue and Gold macaw, Oscar and adding another would be easy. BTW: The baby raven is as big or bigger than Oscar. The adults are twice his size.

Funny what it takes from our government to help out a fellow earthican in need. I do sort of get it, but come on, if you are going to kill a non flying bird, at least let someone volunteer to help...

Good on ya Rick!
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2016 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rescuing and delivering to a wildlife rehabilitator is one thing, and the right thing to do. I'm in no way saying what this guy did is wrong. All I'm saying is that keeping a federally protected bird has some pretty stiff penalties and DNR is completely within their legal boundaries to impose them. Now whether they do is unlikely, but as I said, they "may". If an overzealous officer were to get involved in the situation the expenses could be dire. The laws are in place to protect wildlife the wildlife. How they are applied would certainly vary.
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It would have been much better that they got the bird than having my wife's world revolve around taking care of it.

When all calls are ignored and the only call back is instructions, the lack of immediate concern was exacerbating.

Again, I would have let it die of starvation right where it lay. We have enough animals to take care of.
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Airbozo
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW: I am not saying the laws are right on this one. I do understand why they are in place, but helping an injured animal seems to be the "humane" thing to do.

...and Rick, my wife and yours could probably start their own animal sanctuary. It is to my own benefit that I am able to say "no".

If she had her way, we would own hundreds of acres and just as many animals. Glad my property is too small to be considered a rehabilitation area.
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To be honest newly hatched birds are ugly as hell...so it's easier for me to justify leaving one to it's devices.

This stray was really hard to leave where I found it.
20150818_081911 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr

It doesn't quite show in the picture, but it was skin and bones.
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think my point is being misconstrued. Please help the poor defenseless creatures. Get them to a rehabilitator. Keeping them or trying to do the rehab yourself....bad idea. Having said that I'm out.
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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was over that on post one.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like your cat, Rick.
I have one I found on the back stoop like that, skin and bones and a crooked stub of a tail.
He is 13-14lb now.

He follows me around the house like a dog...

Z
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I usually put down wounded animals on the spot if it looks like they can't make it on their own.
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Airbozo
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hehe,

Wife's nieces found 3 cats in the middle of the road huddled around their dead mother. She bugged me for weeks to adopt one of them, I kept saying no. Finally said yes and a year and a half later, she is the best damn cat I have ever had. She is MY cat, follows me like a dog and sleeps next to my head every night. If I sit down for a minute she is on my lap. Hates my riding gear though.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"DNR is completely within their legal boundaries to impose (pretty stiff penalties)."

If you call the officially sanctioned animal rescue organization, and they refuse assistance, you're likely covered.

If you can document that intent was to rescue, not to destroy the nest or take otherwise viable young for use as pets, you are likely covered.

Intent matters. The intent of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918 was to stop poaching and collection that was threatening species with extinction. I doubt that anyone has ever been prosecuted for genuinely trying to rescue a bird. Do you know of any?

http://www.audubon.org/news/the-migratory-bird-tre aty-act-explained
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, June 17, 2016 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a long and varied history with cats.

My first at age five was Mr.T, a pretty Persian Siamese that was a cunning and skilled hunter for a fat ass cat. Unlike most cats that will maul an animal and leave it on the doorstep, it ate all of its prey. My brother killed it, letting it out in the middle of a blizzard. It froze to death down the street.

The next was an American Short Hair kitten I found stuck in a tree. After a few days of trying to gouge my eyes out we had an understanding. It was more dog like than cat in behavior. It got ran over by an animal hating so called neighbor a couple years later.

The next stray was a black cat the wife nearly ran over. It was 100% feral and never adjusted too well to the domesticated life. It was cute as hell, but had a nasty disposition. The wife offered it to a friend as a barn cat and it found its permanent home.

The current cat, a Rumpy Riser Manx, was a giveaway. She's big and pretty, though a bit aloof. She's always hungry, and will let you know when she needs something. She's a bit of a protector, in that if she thinks someone's harming another she'll attack them. The dog is the exception. She bullies her around a bit.

Lola.
20151213_215453 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr

Daisy.
20151213_215630 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
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86129squids
Posted on Friday, June 17, 2016 - 02:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pretty kitty, nice dawgie! Gotta love critters.
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Airbozo
Posted on Friday, June 17, 2016 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rick,

Most of our animals have been rescues off the street. Our Dalmatian Terrier mix followed the SO into school and laid down by her feet while she was teaching as a young pup.
Since we are sharing photo's...

This is Oscar. He came to us as a very young chick (yes they are ugly) and was not expected to survive. He is now 25, but a little dwarfed due to his bad health as a chick;


This is Luna when she was young;


...her favorite place to sleep;
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