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X1bully
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 05:07 pm: |
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Hi first post I have a 2000 buell x1. IT has been a great bike I joined to ask about suspension settings but now this is my main concern at the moment. Was going to do a track day this Sunday but looks like I won't be able to make it on this bike. Need help fast! Would be nice if I could still make it on the x1. Two days ago I was riding the X1. I have the race exhaust. There is a ground wire that attaches from one of the lower fairing bolts to the exhaust via a clasp. The Clasp lost a bolt due to it being removed and threads chased (Without loctite,sigh). So the ground was not attached to the exhaust canister while sitting in my garage. I did notice the pump or vibration near the tank at night thought it was weird but didn't think anything of it. MAN should have disconnected the battery.. So today I try to start it. At first I was thinking of the battery. Logically I'm thinking it's the fuel pump doesn't make that sound when the key is turned. At first turned the key on, engine check light turned on for a second then went off (now no engine check light at all). Start button does nothing. Tried to jump start it but nothing. Check light didn't light. Start button didn't do anything. I'm pretty sure I won't be able to fix it in two days will try if I can get some help. The basics, I see the pump at the end of the tank. It has a wire to the rear cylinder head (I guess this is the ground for the fuel pump). Is removal of the fuel pump as easy as it looks? Just from underneath? Also am I correct that the exhaust ground is the issue that kept my fuel pump running? Anything else I should look for? Is the fuel pump something I can get at the local auto store? |
X1bully
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 05:16 pm: |
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I found Walbro v6 mustang fuel pump. Anyone have a part number? Just ask for a 2000 Mustang v6 fuel pump? Will I have to "reflash the ecm"? I read reflashing ecm a lot for this bike but not sure what it is for. I could use the reader about now. lol! |
Brother_in_buells
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 05:17 pm: |
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Hey welcome here ,but you better post this also in the old school section ,not a lot old schoolers are here in the quick board! About the fuel pump ,it is not removable from underneath ,you have to remove it through the filler hole! Is the battery fully charged? |
Hootowl
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 05:24 pm: |
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None of that sounds right. The exhaust is bolted to the engine, and shouldn't need to be grounded beyond that. I suspect that the wire connecting to the exhaust is a safety strap to keep the thing attached if the front exhaust hangar tab breaks. The fuel pump ground should not attach to the cylinder head. I suspect that it may attach near the head, but not actually the head. Should hit the frame somewhere. There's a common ground point there somewhere. Does the engine turn over and not start, or does it just not do anything? Check your fuses? |
X1bully
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 05:32 pm: |
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Thanks. Yes looks like I need to remove the ring for the cap to get to the pump and reseal it. Kinda involved removal and install. I will repost in the tuber section. I had the AAA battery try to jump start it. Honestly he did not look like he knew what he was doing. LOL! He had a current checker but no voltage reader. Is the engine check light not lighting up a sign the battery is dead? That light makes me think it is something else. I checked the warning light bulb looks ok. |
X1bully
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 05:42 pm: |
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I switched all my fuses to The ones that light up if there is a blown fuse. Each has a small red led. I just put most of the old ones back. The old ones have a thicker metal breaker as well. No difference. I was thinking the wire (exhaust ground) and bracket was just a brace and just in case that is why I didn't act so quickly will have to find out about it. The ground for the fuel pump has a special spot between the spark plug and one of the bolts for the head. |
Brother_in_buells
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 05:43 pm: |
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My guess is that something is not right with the electrics of the bike and drained the battery completely! Before you start pulling parts etc ,have the battery recharged or try a other battery |
Damnut
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 05:57 pm: |
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Try a fully charged battery and then start looking at the kickstand switch, neutral safety switch and so on. |
X1bully
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 06:02 pm: |
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Yep maybe the battery is so low that the pump isn't making any noise and engine check light is off. The head lights and everything else is working though. I have a small charger in the garage I can hook it up to probably past the recharge voltage though. I should pull the battery out and take it to get tested. It is a WPS battery. Ok guys I posted this in the tuber section here is the link. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/782203.html?1458856626 |
X1bully
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 06:10 pm: |
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"Try a fully charged battery and then start looking at the kickstand switch, neutral safety switch and so on." Ok weird thing happened after reading this I tried holding the clutch in and shifting up the gears. AND the engine light lit up!! I heard the fuel pump!!!! Then the engine light went out... I did it a few times. Looks like the fuel pump and engine light will turn on in fourth or fifth gear the go out on a second or two. Whoot hopefully this means I don't need a fuel pump because it looks like a work!! |
X1bully
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 06:19 pm: |
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OK with the kick stand up it seems to be working normally. Engine check light and I can hear the fuel pump prime. With the kick stand down, engine check light does not come on no fuel pump prime. Ignition start button doesn't do anything though. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 07:25 pm: |
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Most folks bypass the kickstand switch. Sounds like the bike isn't in neutral or the neutral switch is broken. "The ground for the fuel pump has a special spot between the spark plug and one of the bolts for the head." I am almost certain that is the wire for the temperature sensor, and not a ground wire. The engine grounds to the frame via a strap between the swingarm mounting block and the frame. Pretty sure there's no other connection. I can't imagine the fuel pump grounding to the engine. |
X1bully
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 11:48 pm: |
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Yes I think that is the temp sensor makes sense.. I took a look at the switch on the kick stand. The bikes Neutral light lights up when in Neutral but maybe the switch for it is not working that keeps it from starting in gear.. I'm gonna have another AAA guy check the battery for me tomorrow before I take it out. |