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Glitch
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2016 - 11:07 am: |
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Do any y'all know if taking one cylinder off the 1190, making it a 600, would be practical? Kinda like the Blast was a one cylinder Buell engine. I was reading about the AX, and was wondering if that could be a possibility worth wondering about. Do any of y'all know if Erik has the patents on the fuel-in-frame dirtbike? The Griffin. Y'all see where I'm going with this... |
Pwnzor
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2016 - 11:55 am: |
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Sounds like you're planning to kick death's ass some more!
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Hootowl
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2016 - 11:56 am: |
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I don't think removing one cylinder from a superbike engine would make a good dirt bike engine. |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2016 - 12:17 pm: |
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I think they would have more luck making a smaller V-twin. Like a 750-900, I would imagine would be quite doable. |
Thumper74
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2016 - 01:42 pm: |
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Short stroke v-twin with higher revs? Why does this seem familiar? |
Greg_e
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2016 - 02:47 pm: |
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Even just take an "off the shelf" Rotax with a smaller displacement and put it in a frame with maybe cheaper suspension components to make an entry level or lower class racer. If they could get it down to Grom level and prices they might just have a nice entry level racer. |
86129squids
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2016 - 03:05 pm: |
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My latest Motorcyclist has a neat story about the Hodaka Super Rat... could there be a current day EBR reiteration? |
Etennuly
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2016 - 04:24 pm: |
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"THIS" group has been fun to watch over the ten or so years I have been around. This is not true for everyone, but I feel it a lot and most of us feel it at least a little bit..... The whole BadWeB experience can relate to a day at Disney World. Ya get your ticket, you run in jumping at or on the fastest coolest rides you can get. You GO GO GO! You spend years begging for more, faster, bigger, better. Then after the roller coaster rides (which are awesome by the way) you tire of waiting in lines, your feet hurt, you don't fit the seats as well, your body doesn't take the drama of the jerking around so well. Now we start to settle for the train ride around the park. Get off where you want, there are few lines, always a place to sit, not much chance of scraping a knee or jerking your neck out of joint. So many wanted the 150 hp speed demon machines to now say a 650 single would be awesome(of course while keeping the monster in the garage for those "good days"). It makes me laugh at myself and be glad to be a part of this group. |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2016 - 04:56 pm: |
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That is funny. I remember getting ready for a ride in NC with some locals, and all of us visiting Buellers were putting armor on our armor, while the local guy (on a V-strom 650, the wee-strom, and arguably the best strom made) put on... sunscreen. Guess who was the fastest guy through the mountains... and who likely had slowed down for us... |
Cityxslicker
| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2016 - 10:24 am: |
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U.S. Highland had a vicious set up, but they put all their leadership on one plane and experienced the moto version of The Day the Music Died |
Glitch
| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2016 - 12:21 pm: |
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Yeah, that was a sad day. Reep, I remember when Mntrider bought his CityX because he knew it would be fun to embarrass the I-4-Liter-bikes with it. He'd be railing that CityX! I could hardly keep up, and he'd be riding with hardly any body english, and never a knee down. He would just look like he was tooling down the road as relaxed as you'd like, without a care in the world. We'd stop and all the kids would be in aw, then he'd take his helmet off, all grey under there, beard and all. They couldn't believe they were helplessly left behind by an old man! Good times! |
Etennuly
| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2016 - 08:42 pm: |
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Hey Glitch, I have seen our Squids do the same on his City X. He and I were backroad tossing on our Buells North of Tellico on our way home, I believe it was his first Marchbadness trip. We stopped for gas and just as we pulled out we were passed by four liter bikes. I was barely keeping up while he was cruising. He looked at me when these bikes went by and I motioned to go ahead. Within minutes they were all gone out of sight. I caught up to them at the BP in Madisonville. Brad had a big shit eating grin. He ran down and passed all of these twenty somethings. They could not believe they had been smoked by a Buell. Then I pointed out that it was the smaller niner version.....lots of laughs there. |
86129squids
| Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2016 - 12:25 pm: |
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Yeah... I used to be fast... That was on TN360 going north, IIRC probably some of the East TN sport riders club, about 5 or 6 of them. That was my first March Badness, and I had somehow lashed ALL of my camping gear to the CityX- to the point that I might as well had been carrying a passenger. Somewhere I've got a picture of me ready to leave the house... And to be truthful, I had just reeled in, but not passed, the lead guy on a Ninja 1000 when we rolled into Vonore- LUCKILY we had slowed on approach to the BP right as a county po-po started going south... Fun times! Little wonder that I had to replace the motor on that thing as time passed... I had a bad habit of flogging that XB like a rented mule. I DO miss that bike. For the record, I'm planning on taking the SLOW bike, my R75/7 this time around... with NEW Avon hoops spooned on, 'natch. |
Pwnzor
| Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2016 - 12:29 pm: |
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I used to love sitting between lanes at a red light in So Cal and have some kid roll up next to me to ask "is that a 600?" My answer would always be (as I point to each cylinder while speaking) "yes, this one is, and so is that one". |
Henshao
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 05:51 pm: |
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How about a variable displacement engine to make everybody happy |
86129squids
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 06:02 pm: |
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Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 06:14 pm: |
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The Ulysses has a variable displacement engine, the rear cylinder deactivates when it gets wet. |
Henshao
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 06:24 pm: |
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Basically what I was alluding to Technically, you have to stop the airflow in and out of that jug to call it variable displacement, but I wonder if it wouldn't be possible to make it a feature and not a bug so to speak |
Thumper74
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 07:43 pm: |
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My XB12S did that on the way to MB in 2008... |
Charlie_zulu
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 07:47 pm: |
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"Do any y'all know if taking one cylinder off the 1190, making it a 600, would be practical? " Didn't Yamaha do that with the R1 motor? Taking a cylinder off that and adapting it to the WR250R dual sport bike? |
Fast1075
| Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 04:33 pm: |
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Rip a Rotax 450cc engine from a DS-450. Narrow it with modified electrics and case covers. Stuff it in a cool fuel in frame chassis and name it Griffin. |
Rick_a
| Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 05:11 pm: |
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In European racing where there are classes for unlimited singles people have made supermonos out of Ducati twins. Here's one such story: http://www.duccutters.com/richardfelkins-520Single .tpl#.VvWnCHopDqA That's a whole lotta work, but there is no cheap or easy way to make a supermono (at least not a competitive one). |
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