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     Court |
I like the non-PC element . . but, am well aware that it's only entertainment. Trump has no more business being President than does Hillary Clinton. We, in the USA, has a serious leadership deficit. I'm planning on the next 8 - 10 years being a process of sorting out the mess we've been railroaded into under the guise of electing persons based more on race, ethnicity and lack of prior presence in politics than leadership and substance. We've overcome one social ill (that needed addressed) but, in doing so, we've a diverse collection of total f88king idiots of every conceivable background sitting at desks they could never occupy based on talent, intellect or ability. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428968/2015- review-smod-presidential-endorsement | ||
| Xdigitalx |
I really could not believe what I was seeing orhearing when I saw the clip of Trump responding to the audience member referring the Clinton's disappearing act, and Trump reacts with a face and says ..... "I know where she went..." etc etc... I rotfl!!! I don't care what anybody say's, that was freaking hilarious. I also don't believe he will be the man but... I sure hope he lasts and continues to dominate the tv. When he is not the nominee, he will still ruffle Hillary's feathers. Jan. will be entertaining I hope. | ||
| Reepicheep |
That ^ | ||
| Fb1 |
I'll leave the Donald alone now, I'm not prepared, nor inclined to carry out oppositional research. I understand; it can take a lot of time to research and vet this stuff. That said, I'm curious about Trump's historical position on 2A. My take is that you believe he has flopped on his views on 2A. If you run across any info to support this belief I'd be interested in a link. Thanks. Question: Where do you get your political news? I don't mean the specific source, rather, what's the "platform" in which you primarily receive your news? By platform I mean: - television - newspaper - internet - other To be more specific, I'm curious what approximate percentage of your political news do you receive from the potential sources listed above. This isn't a trick question, and I'm not trying to trap you; we're on the same side. My answer would be 0%, 0%, 99.9%, 0.1%. Reindog, I'd ask you the same question, amigo. Also, I know you respect the political opinions of George Will and Charles Krauthammer. Do you know who employs them? Also, can you provide a source for Trump's quote "Putin is a great leader who has never killed anyone..." as presented in the cartoon above. Thanks. | ||
| Sifo |
FB1, Here's some info on Trumps views on gun control... http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Donald_Trump_Gun_ Control.htm It's a short piece, but I'm going to take just a couple of bits from it.
That seems to mesh quite well with this quote from Trump that you took issue with earlier... “who needs them except criminals and police?” Source... http://2012.presidential-candidates.org/Trump/Gun- Control.php The obvious problem is that he has fallen in the liberal trap of using an undefined term. It's a term that they will define on a whim as it suites them. Reading his entire view on guns, he certainly isn't running on a gun ban campaign. I would however put him in the camp of uneducated about guns. That fact kind of scares me. If you don't know the subject matter, how can you create legislation that makes sense? I would really like to see him pressed on what guns he thinks deserve to be kept our of the citizens hands. BTW, you didn't ask me personally, but I get most of my new from cable TV and internet. Anything that I find of interest on TV NEEDS to be verified by other sources IMO. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Not a Trump supporter, but I will say that the position he took against guns was from his book in 2000...FIFTEEN YEARS AGO Now I want you to think for a second how much you (anyone) has changed in fifteen years. Im willing to bet you know at least one person (again, this isnt directed at any one person) who has met someone, fallen in love, gotten married till death do them apart...and then gotten divorced. Hmmm, people's opinions can change? Interesting... Again, not backing the guy up or saying that he never said those things, but I understand that he couldve been changed over a decade and a half. | ||
| Sifo |
Well certainly Trump's position on this may have changed over the past 15 years. He's changed many of his positions on things during that time period. It's one of the things that makes me uneasy about him. On this specific issue, if his position has changed, then I would like to hear from him, in what way did it change and why. I've not seen that. Certainly my view on abortion has changed, and continues to evolve. I can also explain how my view on this has come from learning more and more about what abortion is and the impacts on those involved. Trump (and many other politicians) seem to expect us to simply accept their new views as if it has always been so. Looking at the current Trump site (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amen dment-rights) I don't see anything about "assault weapons". So I don't even know if his official position on this has changed, or if he's simply not telling us the details that he prefers not to share? I really don't know. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
And that is a very valid point, hopefully that sort of thing will come to light soon enough. Honestly we might have known more positions on things had there not been a dozen people on stage for the debates. I do wish the R party would whittle this down some and get rid of those under 2% etc, giving more time for candidates to voice opinions on things to help folks like you and I out. | ||
| Blake |
FB, Does this give you pause?: http://youtu.be/fJQDCvUPnns | ||
| Fb1 |
FB, Does this give you pause?: Yes, it sure does: I admire a brilliant hit piece when I see one. We've already addressed this case on this thread. Who is John Stossel's employer? I ask, because Mr. Stossell is giving the opinion he's allowed to give. You could just as easily say he's giving the opinion he's paid to give. Pretty soon they'll be taking Trump to task for having binders full of women, and for his war on Big Bird. I get your point, but is that it? Is that all you've got on Trump? Is it just his "style" that turns you off? I'm not trying to offend; as I stated to Ulyranger above, you and I are on the same side. Here's something I find interesting. You earlier compared Trump to 0bama and Hitler in terms of popularity. There's a huge difference: Hitler and 0bama were "popular" BECAUSE of the media. Trump is popular in SPITE of the media. There's a war being waged against Trump by nearly every facet of media, including, as your video so aptly demonstrates, Fox. (Look up who owns Fox, and then do some research on him, and the reasons why this is so start falling into place.) And yet, in spite of this war by Pravda (which will only get more intense), Trump continues to lead the polls by a wide margin. I guess we're all dumbasses. By the way, there are SO many R candidates in the ring because their job is as "splitters" for Bush - there was no other way to insure that such a weak candidate could win the R nomination. Trump has thrown quite the wrench into that plan, hence the constant venom being shot in his direction by the media - they never saw him coming (and certainly wouldn't have predicted he gain ANY traction after he announced). He's not my perfect candidate; I want Ronald Reagan again. Alas... Cruz can't win; it's not mathematically possible. NONE of the other R candidates, with the exception of Bush, can win. That's just the way it is. So yeah, your video gives me pause: It's a slick, brilliantly crafted hit piece. Starts out innocently enough, then focuses like a laser on ONE candidate. Who does John Stossell work for? What are his employer's political views? Who does his employer support as our next President? We know it isn't Trump.  | ||
| Aesquire |
Curious. Why can't Cruz win? & do you mean Jeb's nomination or the General election vs. Hillary? Hillary fans absolutely refuse to believe she lies. Will start to scream at you if you try to get them to read Hillary's own writing. I'm no fan of Donald, but I'll vote for a dead badger instead of Hillary. | ||
| Fb1 |
Source, more: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/12/29/flo ridians-for-trump-the-electoral-fulcrum-state/ | ||
| Fb1 |
Curious. Why can't Cruz win? & do you mean Jeb's nomination or the General election vs. Hillary? See above; there's a lot to digest. Sorry, I meant "can't win the nomination" in my post prior to yours. | ||
| Fb1 |
Reindog, this one's for you; read it, or not.
Source, more: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/12/29/not -coincidental-trumps-2015-conservative-critics-wer e-obamas-2009-fan-boys/ | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
"Cruz can't win; it's not mathematically possible. NONE of the other R candidates, with the exception of Bush, can win. " Please explain this 'not mathematically possible' to us. And how do you reckon Cruz cant win but Jeb can, when, of course, you mention mathematics/numbers above and Cruz is beating Jebs butt in the polls | ||
| Fb1 |
^ http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/12/29/flo ridians-for-trump-the-electoral-fulcrum-state/ | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
I'm no fan of Donald, but I'll vote for a dead badger instead of Hillary. I'd vote for Trump's turd before I voted for ANY of those freedom hating Democrats. | ||
| Fb1 |
Source, more: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/12/31/thr ee-top-ben-carson-campaign-aides-resign-campaign-s hakeup-or-collapse/ | ||
| Fb1 |
Katrina Pierson is Trump's national spox. She rocks. She's also got great taste in necklaces: https://youtu.be/tIydyyAchLI | ||
| Fb1 |
I don't normally do WND, but I followed a link so I could read this "Top 10" list. I've posted up the top 5:
Source, more: http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/the-outstanding-cultura l-warriors-of-2015/ | ||
| Fb1 |
Sifo, I lost track of a post of yours upthread. I want to revisit it. You said: FB1, Here's some info on Trumps views on gun control... http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Donald_Trump_Gun_ Control.htm It's a short piece, but I'm going to take just a couple of bits from it.
That seems to mesh quite well with this quote from Trump that you took issue with earlier... I'm not sure which quote your referring to - ?? I note that your source lists, apparently, a single book as the original source for these quotes. Makes it hard to vet exactly what he was asked, and his full reply, which makes it difficult to sink my teeth into this. Also, this stuff is dated July 2000, i.e. 15-1/2 years ago; perhaps his views are more refined since then? Do you have something relatively current regarding his 2A views? No offense, but your second source (http://2012.presidential-candidates.org/Trump/Gun- Control.php) is extremely weak, IMO, tiny little word bites, with absolutely no link to a source:
That's weak if that's all your using to formulate an opinion of a candidate, Trump or otherwise. Without doing more investigative work, there's no way to determine exactly what he was asked, and his full, exact reply. Which, obviously, is important. These quotes aren't even dated. Where did they come from? When? What was he asked? Where are his complete replies? Hard to vet this stuff with so little to go on, amigo. Makes it difficult to accurately ascribe a position to a politician on either side of the aisle this way. | ||
| Aesquire |
It is Important to dislike a person for the Truth, not lies. It's ok to be angry with George W. Bush because he messed up the peace in Iraq, was too timid ( opinion ) or because he never vetoed a spending bill. It is wrong to be angry because he lied about WMD's, since we now know he did not. It IS ok to be angry that he didn't make it known we found many tons of poison gas. With Trump, or Carson, or even Barry the Jerk In Chief, be angry for the real reasons. BTW, when I say "hold your nose and vote" I mean in the General election against Hillary or Bernie or ?. In your Primary, vote for the best person... Or the least bad. Then claim you voted Cthulu. ( why settle for the lesser Evil? ) | ||
| Reindog |
"Nobody has proven that he's killed anyone," the Republican 2016 front-runner said on ABC's "This Week." "He's always denied it. It's never been proven that he's killed anybody. "http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/rubio-bla sts-trump-kind-exchange-putin-article-1.2471889 Putin is a bad dude in the mold of Stalin and Hitler. A femtometer of defense in this thug's direction will have bad consequences in the mind of the American voter. | ||
| Court |
15-1/2 years ago? Hahaha..... Lots of things have changed since the days we kept hearing ......"I did not have sexual....." I think Trump is a clown candidate .... But I base my opinion on current data. I think he's clueless on foreign policy ...... Has no vision for domestic policy and is incapable of dealing with foreign leaders with any respect Putin would wipe his ass with Trump. But .... He's a damn sight better than anyone else, R or D, that's crawled out of the presidential wannabe clown car I'm proud of my nation and ashamed of its leaders. | ||
| Reindog |
FB1: Thank you for keeping up the good fight. Trump simply makes me wince even though he is a source of entertainment. I will vote for him if he makes it but too many Americans are put off by his many STUPID statements. Our best hope is that Hillary Clinton is indicted by the FBI investigation but I am not holding my breath. The corruption of the current administration has grown beyond all bounds. Unless we get a true leader, this corruption will be adopted by Ds and Rs as it will be accepted as business as usual. We mostly have Obama to thank for this. | ||
| Sifo |
FB1, like I said to Hybrid, if Trumps stance has changed, it's up to him to explain that change. I see nothing to even indicate a change, much less a change to what, or why. | ||
| Aesquire |
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| Aesquire |
More humor. Anti-trump, but funny. http://www.pjtv.com/series/scott-ott-thought-835/t he-two-secrets-to-trumps-success-smart-is-dumb-and -dumb-is-smart-11625/ | ||
| Sifo |
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