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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only thing that appeals to me about Trump is his ability to annoy people like Alfau. There are days when I think it would be worth it to elect him, just for the entertainment factor.

Another of those "annoy the media, elect bush" moments.

The irony is that Trump is the right wing equivalent to Obama. An unqualified populist ideologue that panders to their base and makes impossible promises that only his supporters are dumb enough to really take seriously.

You know, like "free health care" (which turned out to really be "we will make your plans more expensive, then garnish your wages if you don't buy them").
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think he should start talking about Ted Nugent doing some type of job in his future administration. Just for kicks.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How would that do for a thrill up yer leg ..... lol
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What impossible promises?
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Jon
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They all suck. We need a reboot
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2015 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, look at the thousands of dumb Trump supporters yesterday up in Michigan:

quote:

FNN: The Media Finally Pans The Cameras At The Donald Trump Rally In Grand Rapids, Michigan
Published on Dec 21, 2015
Media members finally listened to Donald Trump at a rally in Grand Rapids, Michigan on December 21, 2015. More than 9,000 supporters came out to the rally.


https://youtu.be/UbsPqImym84
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2015 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is the first time I have ever seen George Stephanopoulos' ass handed to him, and it took Trump to do it.

Pravda, you've met your match:


https://youtu.be/lXDSJCdfX8k
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 - 05:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Statesmanship matters.

Over two years ago, before we learned that Bergdahl was a deserter. He was right on all counts.



http://youtu.be/Dx7SvBoIMIE
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Ulyranger
Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reep,

Nailhead.......HIT!

Although I do not agree with the "right wing equivalent" part, he is only a RINO for this election cycle. Look at his history and where all his political money/influence went in previous years.....

I too dig his non-PC plain speak and the verbal sledgehammers hurled at the PC sheep herders........it's the lack of substance, tact and background knowledge that bothers me (no, I am NOT labeling him as stupid). His history of leftist views up till a year ago are no small issue as well. I just don't trust him to do anything that is not in his own self interest.
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

His history of leftist views up till a year ago...

Source?
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Ulyranger
Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FB, the info is out there. His 2A views until he threw his hat in the RINO ring are a matter of public record. The fact that his own buildings restrict CCW says all I need to know. He is sure proud of the fact that he was able to obtain the unobtainium NYC CCW permit.....but not for the serfs. He has stated support for limiting this right in the past. What was his turning point? (Other than courting the conservative vote now?). When Rob Astorino attempted to unseat princess Coumo where was the Trumpster's backing to assist his fellow NYers? In all honesty he did do some token PR in opposition to Coumo's unSafe act when the 2A rallies were springing up around the state, but to those of us present it came off as fair weather flag waving and bit self-serving.

His love of the SC Kelo decision? That doesn't sound conservative to me.

He's been a pro choice guy his entire adult life by all accounts. (Until very recently, evolution? That was hildabeasts answer for gay marriage....maybe it works for trump too)

He's been very, very cozy with the Clintons for years.

He was a registered Democrat for most of his life, why change now?

I'll toss it back to you, short of his very recent rhetoric on the campaign trail, what exactly are his conservative credentials?

To be clear, I don't hate the man, just don't trust him and there are better choices that are actual conservatives. The polls seem to support his bombastic speeches, not a proven track record........very much like the hopey-changey thing. He goes against the hildabeast in the general with his mouth I'm not sure he gets away with it......

So maybe "leftist" was the wrong term.....Progressive is probably more appropriate.

(Message edited by Ulyranger on December 23, 2015)
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Alfau
Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How is that dumb republican Donald Duck going?
God help the rest of the world if that clown gets in.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FB,

Crowds of supporters are nice, but Obama and Hitler had them too, so is popularity any kind of a substantive indication of quality or integrity? I don't see it.

Yeah, people are unfortunately easy to mislead.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2015 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>God help the rest of the world if that clown gets in.

Well F**k me with a file . . . we agree on something.

And . . I'll finish the sentence by adding the same applies to ANY of the candidates I am seeing . . Republican and Democrat.

Hillary is a criminal awaiting conviction. . . the fact that MOST (it's roughly 60%) of Americans find her "UNTRUSTWORTHY" speaks volumes.


quote:

The real interesting part of the latest Quinnipiac University National Poll, is not the fact that 60% of Americans think Hillary Clinton is dishonest, but that 40% of Americans don’t.

You’d truly have to be a certified zombie, or living your life entirely under a rock, to not recognize how completely shady and corrupt this woman is.




SOURCE: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/11/new-poll-sh ows-60-of-americans-think-hillary-clinton-is-untru stworthy-and-dishonest.html

Bernie Sanders is . . . not unlike Trump. . his very own kind of nut case . . .essentially a mental social satellite floating through a place in space that normal folks can't see.

I enjoy engaging my youthful charges at Columbia sporting their "feel the Bern" shirts. . . . I like ask them 2 questions . .

1) Name ONE (I only need/want ONE) thing Hillary Clinton has accomplished as Secretary of State?

2) Tell me how Bernie Sanders is going to pay for "Free Everything"?

It's disgraceful.

We, as a nation, have become so jaded, lazy and entitles . . .that those qualified and possessing the talent to lead have simply chosen not to, We end up folks like the current crowd in The White House . . I'm not talking just about the President. . . I am talking about all the clowns occupying the entire building . . . amateur after amateur is parading out . . . weighing in on policy and flitting about in government limos and jets.

In addition . . they are dishonest and ineffective. Obama made two clarion promises coming into office.

He decried what Bush had done with the national debt . . .


quote:

“The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child.
That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.”




UPDATE: The National Debt is not pushing $19,000,000,000 dollars.

TAKE AWAY: Obama lied. He did not do what he PROMISED. He made things much worse. The economy, to those of you bragging about your 401K the last couple years, is about as flat at a fritter. The S&P is in negative territory for the entire year of 2015.

We really should be ashamed.

Folks are going to have to pay this debt eventually. My granddaughters and grandson, at some point, are going to have to forego something to facilitate this debt being paid.

I could go on. Frankly, I'm more concerned about the mess he's made of foreign relations, what he's done to America's image and the laughing stock he had made America on the foreign stage. Our promises are pretty much worthless to our Allies . . and having drawn and walked over more lines in the sand than Lawrence of Arabia . . Obama has become a whipping post of folks like Putin.

I'm hoping that someone . motivated either by Patriotism or sheer disgust emerges from the crowd.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2015 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FB, the info is out there. His 2A views until he threw his hat in the RINO ring are a matter of public record.

Then I trust you'll do me, and anyone else following along, the courtesy of sourcing and posting links to this information.

The following is from his website:

quote:

PROTECTING OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

Donald J. Trump on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms

The Second Amendment to our Constitution is clear. The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed upon. Period.

The Second Amendment guarantees a fundamental right that belongs to all law-abiding Americans. The Constitution doesn’t create that right – it ensures that the government can’t take it away. Our Founding Fathers knew, and our Supreme Court has upheld, that the Second Amendment’s purpose is to guarantee our right to defend ourselves and our families. This is about self-defense, plain and simple.

It’s been said that the Second Amendment is America’s first freedom. That’s because the Right to Keep and Bear Arms protects all our other rights. We are the only country in the world that has a Second Amendment. Protecting that freedom is imperative. Here’s how we will do that:

Enforce The Laws On The Books

We need to get serious about prosecuting violent criminals. The Obama administration’s record on that is abysmal. Violent crime in cities like Baltimore, Chicago and many others is out of control. Drug dealers and gang members are given a slap on the wrist and turned loose on the street. This needs to stop.

Several years ago there was a tremendous program in Richmond, Virginia called Project Exile. It said that if a violent felon uses a gun to commit a crime, you will be prosecuted in federal court and go to prison for five years – no parole or early release. Obama’s former Attorney General, Eric Holder, called that a “cookie cutter” program. That’s ridiculous. I call that program a success. Murders committed with guns in Richmond decreased by over 60% when Project Exile was in place – in the first two years of the program alone, 350 armed felons were taken off the street.

Why does that matter to law-abiding gun owners? Because they’re the ones who anti-gun politicians and the media blame when criminals misuse guns. We need to bring back and expand programs like Project Exile and get gang members and drug dealers off the street. When we do, crime will go down and our cities and communities will be safer places to live.

Here’s another important way to fight crime – empower law-abiding gun owners to defend themselves. Law enforcement is great, they do a tremendous job, but they can’t be everywhere all of the time. Our personal protection is ultimately up to us. That’s why I’m a gun owner, that’s why I have a concealed carry permit, and that’s why tens of millions of Americans have concealed carry permits as well. It’s just common sense. To make America great again, we’re going to go after criminals and put the law back on the side of the law-abiding.

Fix Our Broken Mental Health System

Let’s be clear about this. Our mental health system is broken. It needs to be fixed. Too many politicians have ignored this problem for too long.

All of the tragic mass murders that occurred in the past several years have something in common – there were red flags that were ignored. We can’t allow that to continue. We need to expand treatment programs, because most people with mental health problems aren’t violent, they just need help. But for those who are violent, a danger to themselves or others, we need to get them off the street before they can terrorize our communities. This is just common sense.

And why does this matter to law-abiding gun owners? Once again, because they get blamed by anti-gun politicians, gun control groups and the media for the acts of deranged madmen. When one of these tragedies occurs, we can count on two things: one, that opponents of gun rights will immediately exploit it to push their political agenda; and two, that none of their so-called “solutions” would have prevented the tragedy in the first place. They’ve even admitted it.

We need real solutions to address real problems. Not grandstanding or political agendas.

Defend The Rights of Law-Abiding Gun Owners

GUN AND MAGAZINE BANS. Gun and magazine bans are a total failure. That’s been proven every time it’s been tried. Opponents of gun rights try to come up with scary sounding phrases like “assault weapons”, “military-style weapons” and “high capacity magazines” to confuse people. What they’re really talking about are popular semi-automatic rifles and standard magazines that are owned by tens of millions of Americans. Law-abiding people should be allowed to own the firearm of their choice. The government has no business dictating what types of firearms good, honest people are allowed to own.

BACKGROUND CHECKS. There has been a national background check system in place since 1998. Every time a person buys a gun from a federally licensed gun dealer – which is the overwhelming majority of all gun purchases – they go through a federal background check. Study after study has shown that very few criminals are stupid enough to try and pass a background check – they get their guns from friends/family members or by stealing them. So the overwhelming majority of people who go through background checks are law-abiding gun owners. When the system was created, gun owners were promised that it would be instant, accurate and fair. Unfortunately, that isn’t the case today. Too many states are failing to put criminal and mental health records into the system – and it should go without saying that a system’s only going to be as effective as the records that are put into it. What we need to do is fix the system we have and make it work as intended. What we don’t need to do is expand a broken system.

NATIONAL RIGHT TO CARRY. The right of self-defense doesn’t stop at the end of your driveway. That’s why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving – which is a privilege, not a right – then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege.

MILITARY BASES AND RECRUITING CENTERS. Banning our military from carrying firearms on bases and at recruiting centers is ridiculous. We train our military how to safely and responsibly use firearms, but our current policies leave them defenseless. To make America great again, we need a strong military. To have a strong military, we need to allow them to defend themselves.



Source: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amen dment-rights

The fact that his own buildings restrict CCW says all I need to know.
Again, I politely ask for a source.

He is sure proud of the fact that he was able to obtain the unobtainium NYC CCW permit.....but not for the serfs.
Your source for this?

He has stated support for limiting this right in the past.
Source, please. Thanks.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2015 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

His love of the SC Kelo decision? That doesn't sound conservative to me.
I'd have to do a lot more study on this one to feel like I could comment with a good degree of knowledge on all the particulars, but I can say I'd be pissed if he, or anyone else, tried to take my home using eminent domain as the tool.

He's been a pro choice guy his entire adult life by all accounts. (Until very recently, evolution? That was hildabeasts answer for gay marriage....maybe it works for trump too)
Source, please.

He's been very, very cozy with the Clintons for years.
Yes, I assume he's been "cozy" with a lot of people over the years. What is your insinuation? Is he "cozy" with them now?

He was a registered Democrat for most of his life, why change now?
Source? And when, exactly, did he change party affiliation?
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2015 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To be clear, I don't hate the man, just don't trust him and there are better choices that are actual conservatives.

The "actual conservatives" in the race may not be all they appear, and none of them have the means to win the R nomination; it's either Trump or Bush.

I wish Trump was more "graceful" when he speaks. I wouldn't want him to be even one degree less "bulldog" and in your face, but I think his speaking style is offputting to some. Myself, I can live with it just fine. In fact, it's exactly what our country needs right now.

My wife is my best friend and my soul mate. Yet, in spite of this, we don't agree on everything. I don't think there's ever been a politician I like that I agree with 100% of their positions. That's just the way it goes.

Trump has a proven record of success in business and life. He's been kicked to the curb a few times, but picks himself up, dusts himself off, grits his teeth a little harder, and gets back to work. I can easily see him infusing our country with the same pride and recipe for success. Heck, he already is.

I've followed him closely the past several months, and done a lot of study (which does not include a single minute of ANYTHING that comes from the television). That said, much of my support from him comes from the heart. I think I'm a good judge of character, although I'm honest enough to admit I could be wrong about him.

But I don't think I am.

Upthread a few posts folks like me were called "dumb." Pretty insulting, but I'll live.

And Blake likens Trump to 0bama and Hitler? Wow.

I've got to get to w*rk. I'll post more as I can. Thanks for the discussion.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2015 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trump has indeed switched parties . . . . just like Harry Byrd, Joe Lieberman and Arlen Specter.

I know some things about the NYC CCW permit and I, too, am eager to hear your source.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2015 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some of the conservatives posting on this thread have switched parties during their lifetime, too. I don't see the relevance. When did Trump switch?
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2015 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've switched parties but I'm a voter. In N.Y. you vote the primary you are registered as. I'm not a rich politician who changes party to win with zero intentions of following the party platform. Like Bloomberg who couldn't buy the job in one party but could in another.

There is a fundamental difference.

At least we agree Hillary is a pathological liar who cheerfully has sent a man to prison and destroyed his life to support her lies.

Then lied about it.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2015 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

It’s been fully revealed now that Ted Cruz is spending millions on psychological campaigning. Including the use of: “psychographic” analyses of voters to try to win them over with narrowly targeted micro-messages”, funded by Robert Mercer and Breitbart.Com.

However, recently, and entirely accidentally, a brilliant reverse operation has begun to deconstruct the “Crass Vulgarian Trump” narrative. The inherent subliminal messaging conveyed in this video is, well, brilliant:


https://youtu.be/728_Lwz3nD0

None of the words are changed, yet many observers note how their impression of the content content instantaneously changes.

It is profoundly ironic that simply changing the voice and Trump’s “controversial” message flips, becoming no longer controversial. The agreement aspect increases exponentially and the position gains immediate legitimacy with detractors – just by giving Trump an accent.

Inherently this indicates the “controversial aspect” of the messages’ content is determined more by the carried bias of the viewer – than the policy itself.

This might be nothing new to those who are already intelligent enough to see the policy substance beneath the surface; but this messaging provides abundant usefulness when engaging those who are influenced by Madison Avenue Political techniques.

Source: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/12/24/ted -cruzs-fancy-psychographic-analytics-and-microtarg eting-aint-got-nothing-on-us-blue-collar-vulgarian s/

More: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/11/22/why -breitbart-website-is-fundraising-for-ted-cruz/

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/12/13/ted -cruz-campaign-head-credits-psychological-operatio ns-as-primary-source-of-voter-support/
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Jon
Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2015 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not confident in the way our "democracy" works these days. Time for a reboot. We either get that with a strong conservative law and order administration that spends time undoing and reforming as we go, or we miss again and save the reboot for later when it will be, shall we say, "awkward".

Cruz better be the man or Trump better become the man. Or we as Americans will have to do something about it eventually.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2015 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fb, I certainly don't think you're dumb, or that Trump is Hitler.

I'd say he could be Obama. I mean fake right through. However.... At least the Donald has accomplished something in his life, not on the public dole. Sure, he's failed, where Obama Never has, ( I read his Biography ) but that happens when you try big things.


Fiorina has failed, and it's going to be used against her. I rather like her, and think she'd be the perfect VP candidate, since that slot is attack dog, while the Prez candidate pretends to be above that. I don't think she'd be a bad Prez, Probably damn good, but I don't think she can get the job.

I don't hold failure against Donald.... I'm more concerned on the Eminent Domain issue. And foreign policy, I think he's ignorant on Military and Geo political history. I think he has a fair grasp of the current planetary debacle, and who the players are, I just wonder if he knows the mistakes of the past and to avoid them.

I like Ben, but don't think he has the charisma to get the job. Although a Ben/Carly ticket would be the scariest thing D.C. has ever seen. ( and I count the time the Brits were setting the White House on fire )

And I don't like X Y & Z at all.

But since Hillary has announced that she intends to give us the UK disarm the subjects law, I'd vote for a lamp post instead.

Seriously. If it's Hillary or some jerk you hate and disagree with, ( and It is VERY FREAKING LIKELY ) hold your darn nose & vote. I'm going to. The stakes are too high.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2015 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.pjtv.com/series/trifecta-105/hillary-cl inton-versus-the-republican-outsiders---trump-cars on-fiorina-11633/
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, December 25, 2015 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://fredoneverything.org/fred-for-dictator-good -as-any-bettern-some/

Take the above as parody. Since the platform explained is obviously better informed and far more likely to succeed than either major party...... it must be parody. ...... right?
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, December 25, 2015 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is with disappointment for me to come to the conclusion that Donald Trump can not win the national election. Although I agree with a lot of what he says, he has alienated too many people with incredibly stupid statements.

Will a Latino vote for him... mostly no.
Will a non Christian vote for him...mostly no.
Will a woman vote for him... mostly no.

He has divided rather than united. He should have learned from Reagan but it is now too late.

He will be trounced greater than the Goldwater disaster of 1964. Goldwater was right (pun intended) but he lost big which led the way for LBJ to create the so called Great Society which has gutted the concept of America.

Trump can not win the Presidential Election.
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, December 25, 2015 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Reindog
Posted on Friday, December 25, 2015 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With sadness, I agree with George Will.

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/will122315.p hp3#eqSBJ2Xi8vuBalDG.01
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Friday, December 25, 2015 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

" hold your darn nose & vote. I'm going to. The stakes are too high"

lol
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Ulyranger
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Supporting Kelo is only half of it, trump has used eminent domain for his personal benefit in NJ. I do not care how you slice it, or what position paper he has paid someone to write and post on his website, the man has a serious lack of values and principles. That matters to me.

Can you honestly see the man sitting in some international negotiation and say about some female diplomat she's got "blood shooting out of her whatever"? Or say openly "I bet you'd look good on your knees". His own words. Some may like his off the cuff, non-PC style but it has just as much probability of blowing up in his face (and ours if elected)......including during the general election.

I like the non-PC aspect myself. Taking on the establishment, shaking the status quo. Tact and discretion are important as well, especially on the world stage, words have meaning.

i don't think I can do it, even holding my nose. In my eyes he's as trust worthy as a prostitute but with the prostitute you know what the product Is....

Hey, maybe all his stated positions on the issues previously are bovine feces and to be taken only in the moment......what exactly does that tell you now and going forward?? I know what it says to me.


YMMV

(I'll leave the Donald alone now, I'm not prepared, nor inclined to carry out oppositional research. Nor was my intent to sway anyone's potential vote. Just wanted to point out his "conservative" roots do not appear to be very deep or well established. Everyone will have make up their own minds. Good luck......to all of us)
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