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Sifo
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Ducbsa
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2015 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Of course, the House Repubs that voted for the bill share it now:

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Aesquire
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2015 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/the-adminis tration/258689-leaked-dhs-memo-shows-obama-might-c ircumvent-dapa

Laws are for Peasants. Court decisions? If Obama likes them, they are the law of the land, even if the law says the opposite, or Obama said the opposite. If Obama doesn't like them, they don't count. Ask the oil workers in the Gulf of Mexico, or ICE agents forbidden to follow the law.

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/25751 1-gop-senators-obama-circumventing-congress-in-cli mate-deal-talks

Let me put this in short form.

Obama will tax you for emitting CO2. He will give your tax money to whoever he wants. He will ignore Congress. The Constitution. You.

Did I mention his "friends" in Chicago ( Carbon Traders ) will make a fortune on you? They will.

Stern said whether the deal would go through the Senate hinges largely on whether countries’ individual contributions are legally binding — a factor that has not yet been finalized in the negotiations.

“We don’t know yet what the elements of the agreement are going to be and so it’s hard to speculate at this time,” he said. “We’re pushing hard for an agreement that does not include binding targets.”
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2015 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with Obama on this one. You can't have 100% security and 100% privacy and 0% inconvenience. That's just a simple truth.

Ben says we can't afford to give up any liberty, and yet, under the Constitution, the police are allowed to raid your home with a court order. That is a reduction in liberty for the cause of security. I often wonder if his quote was taken out of context.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2015 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-04/ this-is-the-worst-u-s-earnings-season-since-2009

Just thought I'd point out that more people are out of work each year Barry is in D.C. and that we are in the "worst economy since the great depression"..... unlike all the times you were told that during the Bush The Younger regime, it's been true during the Barry Years.

And the Obama Wars don't seem to be settling down soon, although I suspect NBC will just not report on anything bad not Trump or Carson related. So if Jerusalem gets poison gassed by Assad and Berlin nuked by Putin, you'll need to read it on Drudge, or the Daily Mail, since MSNBC sure won't tell you.

If I was rich, I'd sue them for malpractice.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2015 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20151104/ml--iran- 9813734ffa.html

Seems Iranians respect Obama as much as we should.

When will Kerry condemn them for burning Kerry and Obama in effigy?

THAT PUTS OUT CO2!!!!!!!! Global Warming!

There must be international outcry! Think of the Children!
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2015 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://pjmedia.com/yellowribbonproject/open-season -iran-takes-another-hostage-may-have-baited-d-c-re sident/
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2015 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/06/nonfarm-payrolls-27 1k-vs-expected-180k-unemployment-rate-5.html

you need 250,000 new jobs each month to break even. It looks like we may have added employment this last month. ( but next month they will adjust the figures, so it's probably not really true.... keep an eye on that )

But we gained, 313,000 people "in the labor force"? so... we lost ground anyway?

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/94 513000-americans-not-labor-force-participation-rat e-remains-38-year-low

Let me make it clear.

Actual unemployment went up this year.

and has gone up for the last 8 years.

Monthly unemployment may have gone down for the Christmas sale season, like it has every year, but if you lose 10 months of the year, and barely gain 2, you still lose.

Short form. Things may be improving on employment, a tiny bit. This is good.

Now if we can avoid any more wars than we are already in.......

btw, what IS the current count of wars? Is it just 2? or do we count by country instead of enemy?
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2015 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you have not read the Holy Books of the people trying change your society, you are going to run afoul of changes you don't understand.

Fortunately for us, the twisted economic logic of Marx & Engels isn't really needed to understand the Institutions spawned by their writings, we have a modern American book that doesn't fully explain the concepts behind the Socialist, Marxist, Fascist philosophies, but does lay out in cook book form how to create a society based on those philosophies.

Read Hanson's article instead of my rambling explanation.


http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/community-org anizing-america/?singlepage=true
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2015 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://nypost.com/2015/11/07/obama-held-hostage-ho w-irans-using-the-nuke-deal-as-license-to-go-wild/
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2015 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2015 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with Obama on this one. You can't have 100% security and 100% privacy and 0% inconvenience. That's just a simple truth.

But it's also a complex lie. You can't have 100% security, unless, maybe, you live as a slave in a fortress. ( they call those Prisons ) And then only if you live in solitary confinement, and trust the guards. You only have to give up all convenience, and all privacy.

Ben says we can't afford to give up any liberty, and yet, under the Constitution, the police are allowed to raid your home with a court order. That is a reduction in liberty for the cause of security.

That's not for "security". That's the restrictions on law enforcement that were considered radical hippie ideas when the Founders wrote the Constitution.

Before that, the police, or, since established Civilian Police Forces were also a radical idea, mostly the Army would just come in to your home, and search for evidence. Like arms, money, stolen goods, radical propaganda, Bibles, all the things that might indicate your guilt or lack of Loyalty to the King.

Requiring a warrant, signed by a Judge, before they can kick your door down and raid your home is a severe restriction on the Power of the Government. You can go too far in restricting the police and have no effective policing of the Community at all.

Go very far the other way, towards unlimited power for the police, where they have the power to kick your doors down just in case you might have illegal items in your home, or evidence of disloyalty to the Powers that Be, and you have brutal dictatorship.

There is a trend in the U.S., publicly encouraged by Obama, in the direction of neutering the local police, at the same time giving insane amounts of power to the Regime's Enforcers & Informants.

The goal seems to be a Nationalized Police Force, answerable only to the President, with no restrictions on power, as decreed by the President. That is, after all, what Obama promised he'd create. ( naturally he lied about it's Purpose. )

Consider the TSA. Petty little egos can take you and hold you as long as they want, if you insult or question them. Not indefinitely.... maybe, unless they get you declared a possible terrorist threat, and then your rights are gone, and so are you. ( I'm not making this up, Obama passed the bills and signed the Executive orders for indefinite, secret, detention, of suspected terrorists ) So far as we know, no mothers have come forth demanding to know where their sons are, who were taken away by the TSA, but otoh, that might mean that NBC just has a policy not to report it. The TSA certainly has the power to keep you off an airplane, and hold you until your flight departs, and hours more, then kick you out of the airport with no charges and just a little roughing up..... or send you to jail for a longer time to sweat out if they will prosecute, or just punish you for a few days, with no rights or contact with lawyers & family. ( multiple cases of the above exist )

Also the TSA has failed to actually stop any terrorist attacks. You can argue that the mere presence of a ham fisted P.C. Security Force has reduced the chance of future airline highjackings, and there is some truth to that.

Just a random thought on law enforcement vs. freedom....Snipers with radar guns on overpasses might reduce the number of speeders too.

Not that I advocate being stupidly impolite to the underpaid, overworked, and badly trained TSA employees at the Airport. It's NOT their fault that the Glorious Leaders had the system programmed to do random checks. They didn't lay down insane rules that mean they are supposed to ignore a group of Mullahs chanting Death To America, and pick on anyone that looks like a Veteran.

There are a few bad apples, like in any line of work, who will rob you, or act in a petty tin-plated dictator way, and those deserve condemnation, prosecution, and prison, just like any Bad Cop or bureaucrat.


That's not Security. Security is an imaginary thing sold to you in exchange for power over you. Period.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2015 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/07/new-e ra-airport-security-sinai-terror

“Until we address those inherent failures we are always going to have something that on the surface looks good, where passengers can say ‘Security was really good because they took my bottle of water away’, which is meaningless in 2015. We need to move away from security theatre into security reality.”

Security Theatre is what you see sold as Security. Security is an illusion.
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2015 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"That's not for "security"."

What would you call being safe in your home and possessions, if not secure? I believe the Constitution even uses the word 'secure'.

I don't necessarily disagree with most things you've said, but not everything Obama says is a lie, complex or not. 100% liberty comes at a price. That price is security. The reverse is also true. Our founders knew this. A court giving its permission for the police to raid your home is not 100% liberty. We should have maximum liberty. In an ordered society, maximum never quite reaches 100%.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2015 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Won't argue with that.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, I will. ; )

Of course not everything Obama says is a lie. Like Bill Clinton, can't be 100%. Otherwise he'd never get the food he really wanted.

the difference is, Ben was warning us not to seek "security" at the expense of freedom of choice. ( all freedom is to chose )

Barry was making an excuse for reading all your emails. ( Still waiting for some Congresscritter to ask the NSA for Hillary's deleted emails. ) And making you take your shoes off. and.and.and.

What would you call being safe in your home and possessions, if not secure? I believe the Constitution even uses the word 'secure'.

Ah! you get it.... almost.

The Constitution does not make law that you cannot be robbed. Such laws do exist, but there is no NEED to for a Constitution to ban murder, or robbery, or assault.

The Constitution makes law that you are SECURE in your person and property, FROM the Government.

It's to protect you from Hillary reading your FBI files to get blackmail material. Or Nixon, if you are old enough.

Secure, means that jackbooted thugs from your Government won't kick your door down and take your stuff. In the Soviet Union, possession of the means of publication, a mimeo machine, got you sent to be "re-educated", meaning slave labor, worked to death.

"Secure" has nothing to do with terrorists. Or religious zealots who want to kill you because your sabbath day is different.

It DOES specify that the forces of the Government will not enforce the religious zealot's will upon you.

Arguably, that part of your Liberty is violated frequently anyway. It's why I can't buy a Beer on Sunday Morning. Or you can't buy a piece of plastic that looks like a phallus in Texas. Some Holy Rollers, and some gangsters, BOTH donated to the local politician to make a silly religious law. It's one of the great ironies of all time.

Throughout history, the Gangsters and the Priests have both pushed for "sins" to be illegal. One can see the profit motive.

Ben had it right on this one.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The Constitution makes law that you are SECURE in your person and property, FROM the Government"

Huh? What do you think I've been talking about?

The government can raid your home as long as it has a court order. That's a reduction in Liberty for the sake of security. Enshrined in the constitution. That Ben wrote. So I say again: I think his quote was taken out of context.

Try again : )
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's a reduction in Liberty for the sake of security.

No, that's not for the sake of security. Raiding your home with a court order is to enforce a law. ( or to intimidate, oppress, threaten, and subvert the Constitution altogether, as has been seen in Wisconsin )

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421274/wisco nsin-john-doe-investigations-halted-supreme-court

We are too adult to just play extremes here. ( ok, you are ) You recognize that if there is no legal way for a policeman to search your house, that some laws, ( good or bad ) just couldn't be enforced.

Let's say it's illegal to make nerve gas. If the police suspect you of making nerve gas, and you won't let them in to check, how can they catch you at it before you carry it out of your castle to slaughter the Chuck-e-cheese?

OTOH today's perversion of the War On Drugs, means that police can raid your home, take your car, and sell it, and you have to sue to get your property back....

Somewhere in the middle lies the "right" answer. I personally prefer it closer to "a mans home is his castle" and think that the "cops accuse you of being a drug dealer and steal your property" is a very Un-Constitutional thing.



But where exactly you draw the lane on how much evidence there should be before a court issues a warrant, that's a serious argument all by itself.

I accept that there should be some law enforcement, and there must be a controlled mechanism to violate your rights in limited circumstances.

I even see the advantage of reading everyone's email, listen to all phone calls, and keep the entire population under constant video surveillance. It would make us all safer. It's also a world I would die to prevent. Because such power is far too easy to abuse... and it always is.

Ben warned of being a fool. ( he was very good at that )
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And why do we enforce laws? What reason could there be? To prevent lawlessness and the resulting chaos?

That's security by any definition.

All the scenarios of government overreach you keep going on about are good examples of same, but are not germane to the statement of fact that I made (about what Obama said) about not being able to achieve 100% security and 100% liberty. The two are at odds. Diametrically opposed. Have we drifted too far in the security direction? Very possible. Depends on what you think is important. I'm of the opinion that a lot of the crap we do for security is ineffective, and does nothing but reduce liberty in trade for...well...nothing.

It's a tradeoff. Ben knew it. They all knew it. That's why the circumstances under which the government can take your liberty is tightly constrained. OK, well, it used to be. Sure wish our pols could read.
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot, we seem to be in general agreement.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426975/benja min-netanyahu-radical-islam-terrorism-medievalism? target=author&tid=897

In February the U.N. issued a report chronicling how the Islamic State was burying alive, beheading, and crucifying children. The next day, President Obama went on a tear about how we in the West shouldn’t get on our “high horse” about it because Christians did terrible things a thousand years ago.

I’d still rather live under medieval Christians than under the Islamic State, but that’s beside the point. The reason Obama’s statement was so morally obtuse is that he was comparing medieval Christians from a millennium ago to monsters who proudly videotape their crimes in the here and now. If we can’t get on our high horses about that, what use is there in having high horses at all?


I want to ask the President a lot of questions. There is not one on my list I'd expect an answer to, and asking them in public would get me crucified by the press.


Who should have asked them years ago.
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's almost like anyone in a position to shine a really-big-light on the traitor-in-chief (tic) - pols, media, pop culture, etc. - has been made an offer they can't refuse. He ain't that smart, or motivated (I'm reading online that he appeared stoned, again, tonight).

One wonders whom has this kind of horsepower, and what their end game is? I have my suspicions.

We're allowed to have these discussions about the tic because, IMO, our light is collectively not very bright or far-reaching.

Political forums are also probably a really slick way of collecting intel on radical Americans - y'know, honest, hard-working conservative folks who believe in the Constitution and such.

Tonight in Paris may turn out to be a little blip in history.

Or, it may turn out to be the beginning of World War III.

It it's the latter, it's all by grand design. IMO.

And fully supported, both morally and financially, by the tic and his handlers. IMO.

Tonight's events in Paris have me nearly speechless.

And wondering what comes next.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

These jihadists really aren't that bright. A better outcome for Islam would simply be to continue to flood the stupefied western nations until they are the majority. An invasion and conquering without firing a shot. However, these jihadists seem to revel in the violence and carnage. Their blood lust knows no bounds and their hatred for non-Muslims consumes them.
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^ FvB, I was going to post-up a YouTube video to demonstrate that the tactic you propose is already in full bloom in Europe; no disrespect, but if you're not aware of this, you need to find a better news source.

I saw a link to this particular video two nights ago, and chose to watch it tonight, after I learned of Paris.

I went to link it for you, and it's gone. Here's a snip from the author's intro:

quote:

Death of Nations
Published on Nov 9, 2015
This video will not be online long, download and mirror it while you can.



Alas, he (or she) was right. One million, two hundred thousand-plus (1,200,000+) hits in just four days.

And tonight, within the last hour, "somebody" apparently decided the video was too dangerous - it chronicles the MASSIVE invasion that's presently happening in Europe.

This invasion is happening in the USA, too, we're just not as far along.

Yet.

And the mainstream media is loathe to report on it.

Yet.

Another snip from the intro:

quote:

With Open Gates: The forced collective suicide of European nations


quote:

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."

- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC



You are witnessing what will be shown to future generations as the reason for the fall of an Empire.

At current immigration levels and disappearing birth rates native Europeans are destined to become a minority in their own countries within decades. This is already the case for many of Europe's largest cities.

Europeans have effectively lost their right to exist as cultures and nations in their own homelands and are facing extinction.

Millions of young Muslim men leave behind their family, pay thousands to criminal traffickers to reach the land they have been promised by European politicians illegally.

Dubbed by the media as "refugees", they cross through 6-10 safe countries to reach wealthy nations like Germany or Sweden where they hope to receive a better life at the expense of the taxpayer.

Only a fraction of them are Syrian, as they enter unfiltered, without any documents and without any legitimate right to claim asylum. Women and children are rarely seen, except in the cherry-picked sob stories of the media.

Any indigenous resistance of Europeans who refuse to hand over the countries of their ancestors to often radical and criminal Muslim foreigners is labeled "hateful", "racist", even "Nazi".

The level of cultural, moral and political subversion with egalitarian and Marxist ideologies has reached levels the KGB would never have dreamed of. Equality and tolerance are lies that serve none but a few.

The Left, mainly orchestrated by Zionist interests, is destroying our countries from the inside. Patriotism, the most basic and fundamental trait of any nation that wants to survive, has become something to be ashamed of.

Feminism has destroyed family values and birth rates. Healthy nationalism has been replaced with a culture of guilt, self-hatred, apathy, degeneracy and pathological altruism. We are told to embrace "diversity", in reality this simply means instead of just being a global minority, Europeans are supposed to become a minority in their own countries as well. No civilized society can keep up with the birth rate of third world immigrants, especially when the main goal is integration rather than assimilation. Parallel societies breed poverty, crime and radicalism.

Multiculturalism has never, at any time in human history, worked anywhere. If you believe otherwise, you're delusional. In fact it's the primary reason for every major conflict.

Here's the link, in case the actual video somehow comes back; it's pretty sobering stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc


EDIT: The video is back; perhaps YouTube was overwhelmed. I can't possibly vet everything you see and hear in this video; watch and decide for yourself:


https://youtu.be/44vzMNG2fZc

(Message edited by fb1 on November 13, 2015)
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Torquehd
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2015 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I was in high school, two airplanes flew into the twin towers. That was my introduction to what islam stands for. After I learned a little about it, I became convinced that islam has a part to play in the Tribulation, straight out of the book of Revelation. That was 14 years ago, and my suspicions have only increased with time.

I'm pretty sure it's coming, and there's nothing you can do about it, except die a martyr.

I hope I'm wrong.... But I don't think I'm lucky enough to be wrong this time.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2015 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will 0 use H's crimes to extend his term?

The idea is so simple it's horrifying .
In an October surprise the 0's Justice Department charges Hilary with the crimes she is known to have committed and she is declared ineligible to run.
0 then declares that, because there is no Democrat candidate, the election will have to be suspended until the Democrats can select a new candidate.
He also declares he will have to remain in office until this lengthy process is completed.
He may also decide that if H is to go on trial that the election cannot take place until the trial is over.
After all if, after a very lengthy trial, she is found innocent wouldn't she be again eligible to run?

If there are too many protests 0 could declare martial law and remain in office indefinitely.

The possibility is horrifying indeed. I'm almost sorry I thought of it.

G
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2015 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Obama leaves 'Islam' out of Paris terror statement



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Fb1
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2015 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:





Confirmed – Paris Terrorist Registered In Greece as Syrian Refugee
Posted on November 14, 2015 by Sundance
Several news outlets [are] now confirming that at least one of the Paris terrorists was an Islamic Jihadist who flowed into Europe under the auspices of being a refugee. The terrorist passport confirms his migration through Greece happened six weeks ago.

This new discovery supports several predictions that ISIS was using mass immigration to embed terrorists, and possibly entire terror cells, within the influx of thousands – a trojan horse for terror.



(Via Daily Mail) A Paris suicide bomber who was carrying a Syrian passport passed through Greece as a refugee in October, according to a Greek minister.

The passport was retrieved from one of the suicide bombers who blew himself up outside the Stade de France stadium as part of last night’s coordinated attacks, which killed at least 127 people.

The passport holder, who is understood to be 25, passed through the island of Leros of October 3 as a refugee, where he was identified ‘according to EU rules’.

But Greece’s deputy minister in charge of police, Nikos Toscas, did not know if the passport was checked by other countries through which the holder possibly passed on his way to France.


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The unnamed killer was registered on the Greek island of Leros in the southern Aegean sea on the third of October. The Island is just ten miles from the Turkish coast and has been a major point of ingress for so-called ‘refugees’ into Europe, alongside neighbour island Kos.

Having come ashore in Europe in October, the killer spent just six weeks as a refugee before killing in Paris.

It is possible the man had travelled from Syria with his fellow killers with the express intention of attacking Paris, and taking advantage of the migrant flow to pass into the continent unnoticed. Britain’s BBC reports this afternoon the group may have been a self contained terror ‘cell’ from Syria.

The news will come as a major shock to the European establishment who have mocked and derided those who have warned that the migrant route into Europe would be exploited by those wishing to do harm to Europe. Latest United Nations estimates show over 800,000 migrants have passed through the Mediterranean on their way to Europe this year, with 660,700 landing in Greece and 142,400 in Italy.

Many more travel north through the Balkans, contributing to the minimum 1.5 million migrants expected by just Germany to the end of 2015.

In April of this year, just before the British General Election, UKIP leader Nigel Farage travelled to the European Parliament in Strasbourg to warn that ISIS and its sympathisers would try to find their way to European soil to commit terrorist attacks. He was roundly dismissed by the European Parliament, and Britain’s mainstream media.




Source, more: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/11/14/con firmed-paris-terrorist-registered-in-greece-as-syr ian-refugee/

See also:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/09/06/rag ing-horror-confirmed-at-austria-italy-border-mid-e ast-muslims-refugees-go-on-rampage/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3318379/Hu nt-Isis-killers-Syrian-passport-body-suicide-bombe r-Stade-France.html

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/14/paris-t errorist-migrant-registered-refugee-greece/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32510915
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