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Macbuell
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why isn't this a bigger story? Why aren't there any protests over this incident? Is it because the little boy was white and the cops were black?

As a father of a 5 year old, this story breaks my heart. This child was 100% innocent. He didn't attack a police officer. He didn't run away. He didn't have a weapon. Ugh.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/07/lou isiana-officers-boy-shooting
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Because there's no white lives matter movement using horrible tragedies to advance an agenda that has nothing to do with the saving lives.
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Big_island_rider
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dominant Liberal Establishment Mass Media.
Does not fit their narrative or agenda.

Because the "people" who are "affected" are not organized by leaders with a narrative or agenda and would rather wait for the facts than jump to a spurious conclusion. Otherwise known as reason and intelligence.
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S2t_bama
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To be fair , the officers in question have already been arrested. Not much to protest since they don't appear to be getting away with anything.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The OP's question stands though...

No uproar from the public at large...Maybe because the people who would be otherwise outraged are actually at work, and not gang-banging or hood-ratting...
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Macbuell
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The officers in Baltimore were arrested. That didn't stop protests and rioting.
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Id suspect if that man recovers he's got a bullet for two cops.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This story is on CNN.com now.
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Macbuell
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is in CNN but you have to dig to find it whereas the Baltimore and Ferguson stories were plastered all over the site with dozens of stories, opinion pieces and on and on.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep.
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Macbuell
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lead story on CNN ... Missouri President Resigns over Race concerns.

This story isn't in the Top Stories, The News or Buzz Section or the Recommended Reading section. In fact, there isn't a written story about it at all on the front page. You have click on a video to get any news on this.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Over a thousand people have been killed by police this year, but you don't normally hear about it regardless of skin color.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not under similar circumstances. Cop shoots someone shooting at them is not newsworthy. Cops shoot 6 year old is.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't consider shooting a kid newsworthy, that is more like providing a service!

http://copcrisis.com has a detailed breakdown of everyone that the police have killed.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"more like providing a service!"

What, like a 21st trimester abortion?
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Browsed a few of the reports. Every one I happened to click on was a case of the police defensing themselves from someone whom had taken a shot at them. Did I just get lucky?
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would also posit that if people didn't shoot at cops, cops might be less likely to fear for their own lives when interacting with the citizenry, thus reducing the likelihood that they might shoot someone they perceive to be a threat.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Like this.

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2015/11/09/a lleged-gang-member-in-us-illegally-charged-after-a ttacking-deputy-during/

Cops do show restraint. I'd have shot the son of a bitch and not looked back.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That post right there is living proof that there are too many whackos with easy access to guns.

I noticed that no other country has a huge problem with cops killing people left and right, I wonder whys that? I'm sure it is Obama's fault though.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't consider shooting a kid newsworthy, that is more like providing a service!

Speaking as a proud and loving father of 3 incredible grown "kids", and the stepdad to a police officer, I find that statement disgusting and changes completely how I think of you Froggy. I hope that was a poorly executed joke...

And you anti-gun guys gotta stop blaming firearms. "Whackos" is the key word, because even without firearms these lawless anarchist thugs that populate inner cities would use anything they could to whack other people. Remember that cute little "knockout game" fad these animals were doing recently?

Police are killing people because most of these idiot perps ask for it, cops are under attack and edgy as hell, the media (and yes Obama) stoke the fires of racial strife.

Don't like cops? Call a gangsta for help when a thug infringes on your liberty. Oh, wait a minute....
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Reducati
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

im with xbimmer
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Malott442
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 06:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think what Froggy meant was that the news had BETTER tell us about a story like that......

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm right.

About a third of the posts here show exactly what is wrong with our country. Our leaders, our media, they have divided us.

The top stories:

1. Some piece of garbage almost overdosed after leaving his unremarkable Kardashian wife. We are now tracking every move he makes.

2. A transgender attention monger who is affiliated with the Kardashians cut his penis off, and the media touts him as brave.

3. The football team at Missouri proved that a college's football team is more important than any other part of their infrastructure. By threatening their main source of income and popularity, they have forced the hands of the two most prominent figure heads of the establishment. Regardless of their motives, they have shown what the real important matter is there: Money


We don't read the real issues, because they aren't publicized. We aren't saving the hundreds of thousands of children who die of hunger, thirst, and poor medical care every year. No, we spend every dollar we can spare "keeping up with the Joneses". Or entertainment. Or vacations. Anything to distract us from the fact we allow our neighbors to perish for no other reason than its not our agenda. We throw away enough crops every year to feed the world. But that's not a hot topic. We care about what the government will do for us. Tens of millions of sheeple, hands open, demanding the handouts they feel so entitled to.

We don't lash out at the pharmaceutical and medical industries for medicating us into insanity. Almost every single person I know has at one point used an unauthorized prescription to self medicate. If not that, I have seen literally dozens of people try to hand out their own medication to friends like some gypsy doctor, administering opiates for headaches. Why? Because obviously, we are handing out these psychologically altering tablets hand over fist.


All of these issues matter not, because they do not matter to the wealthy, the real leaders.

(Message edited by malott442 on November 10, 2015)
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm with Malott here, all except one minor adjustment to the final sentence...

All of these issues matter not, because they do not matter to the wealthy, the real leaders.

All "leaders" are wealthy, while not all wealthy are "leaders".

I think Froggy ought to be walking back the statement about kids... I've got 5, none of them perfect, but I surely don't want any of them getting shot.

To me, the matter with the police is simple. Don't act the fool, and you won't put yourself at risk of being shot by a police officer. Speaking as an ex-convict who has dealt with police on every level, and having seen them at their best and worst, I believe they are necessary and in fact I use my own money to support my local police.
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 07:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

That post right there is living proof that there are too many whackos with easy access to guns.

I noticed that no other country has a huge problem with cops killing people left and right, I wonder whys that? I'm sure it is Obama's fault though.




Every country has their nuts. Our media makes it a gun problem. Statistically suicide is a much larger problem than any other type of crime with a gun.

Either way it's a people problem and folks would harm each other guns or not. Folks don't blame a hammer, tire iron, kitchen knife, bat, screwdriver or shank when used in violent crime. Stupid.

Countries that control guns and pointy things don't like statistics about guns and pointy things because gun and point things legislation does not impact overall crime rates. Therein lies the rub.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 07:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When you don't have to solve a problem, it's really easy to criticize others solving the problem.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"That post right there is living proof that there are too many whackos with easy access to guns. "

Hey, I was a few beers into the evening when I posted that. It was also not meant to be taken literally, just to put a point on the restraint the officer showed.

Besides, what kind of 'whacko' would post that killing a kid is a service?
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If guns scare you Froggy, don't come to Texas and threaten anyone with physical harm. We license a quarter of a million new CHL holders every year, and you can carry in your car as if it were your home with NO license. And yet, people aren't walking the streets plugging each other (except gang members...and they don't have CHLs). I don't know...maybe guns aren't the problem.

Worth a repost.

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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have kids but I get the Froggy. It is because I have kids that I can remind myself that the ones I see are a reflection of their parents and the parents disconnect from manning up and raising the children instead of letting them run amok and then complaining about how they act. The service is just a perception of what the parents act like they want. Froggy has a heart, a young heart.
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I lived in a country where people didn't have access to guns the way we do, hardly a week went by where there wasn't an article in the paper about some nut stabbing someone with a knife, meat cleaver, box cutter or in one case a 10" nail. The nail incident was a black kid on a school bus hacking up a white kid. It doesn't matter if guns are at your finger tips or not. People are going to kill people. Look at prisons...no weapons there at all...people still getting killed.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You guys that think I am against guns are mistaken, I don't have a problem with guns, I have a problem with whacko gun owners. While most guns are in the hands of reasonable and sane people, there are too many people out there that have guns that shouldn't (including some cops).

I know I have too many screws loose to safely own a gun, so I don't, but I personally have enjoyed spending some time firing off rounds in a safe setting with someone else's gun.
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

GFY Froggy.
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Crusty
Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2015 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You just lost 90% of your credibility by throwing a personal insult at Froggy. I suppose that when someone disagrees with your opinion that you feel threatened and have to retaliate. Pity.

The news article was on page 5 of yesterday's Boston Globe. It made no mention of either the police or victim's race.
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2015 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe he meant "Good For You Froggy. I was hoping it didn't stand for "phornicate".
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2015 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lets all of us calm down a little. No need to ruin relationships here.


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