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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - 04:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah...the origin is a bit convoluted...but the basic design is Browning...but also relied on expiring Pederson patents...after first relying on expiring Remington patents.

At any rate, it's a solid gun with a smooth action known for being one of the most durable shotguns ever produced as well as being the oldest design still in production.

There's some decent trench gun info here:
https://www.rockislandauction.com/blog/trench-gun/

The 1897 gets all the love, but mechanically it certainly wasn't the best of them. Cimarron still lists a replica in their catalog, though it is a Chinese clone not known for being a solid performer. IAC imports them as well...which have a better reputation...but aside from being cool and getting all the clout historically...I've never been a real fan of the 1897 design in general.

(Message edited by Rick_A on June 18, 2019)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So at the risk of turning this into an oil or tire thread , I'm thinking about adding another carry piece. I love my XDs but thinking more capacity. I want to say Sig makes a compact that carries 12...

I also like striker-fire and prefer no thumb safety, with a break trigger and/or backstrap safety like my XDs. The fewer buttons to hit under duress, the better!

Any thoughts/advice? RD's video above got me thinking about different brands...
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's the Sig P365 that's all the rage...as long as you get a current production gun they are good to go. It's a 10+1 unless you buy the $50 extended magazine. It's a nice little gun that's supposed to shoot almost as well as a full sized pistol. It's a little small for my tastes, but is likely the most size efficient pistol out there.

It can be had with or without a manual safety.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was an Army brat and was a Cub Scout at Black Hills Ordnance Depot in SD. One activity we had was to visit the Provost Marshall and what I remember is the MP Sgt showing us a riot gun. No bayonet, though. Although, that makes me think of the famous AR15 Chainsaw attachment.
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you were already a 1911 fan, I'd recommend the Sig Sauer P938 in 9mm. I don't carry a 9mm at present, but that is about to change with a P938. I believe the size makes it worth training on.
https://www.sigsauer.com/products/firearms/pistols /p938/
Comes in different flavors, even .22LR.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The appreciation for his genius was demonstrated!

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/17/18-p eople-attend-eric-swalwalls-gun-control-speech-nea r-nra-hqs/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/18/eric -swalwell-ban-ownership-of-more-than-200-rounds-of -ammo/
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I count at least 20... fake news!
Swalwell is a douche bag.

Z
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2019 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

}Swalwell made clear his belief that U.S. gun policy ought to emulate Australia and New Zealand:

Ah, yes...NZ. Where...what...212 people have surrendered their firearms?

TOTAL?
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2003xb9r
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2019 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If it is 212 people so far and I seriously doubt that figure, how many of them were gang members and or criminals? Oh yes, that would be NONE. No, the last thing the US should do is emulate Australia and NZ's gun laws.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2019 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There was an article posted here a while back (few weeks?) that showed it was like 212 people, or 187 people, or some other stupid-low 3 digit number...

I agree. No way we should do this.

An Aussie contributor on FNF this morning said it best: "what we have in Australia now...bad guys have guns, but no good guys have guns".

Well...duh.

But the DNC knows...an unarmed populace can't effectively fight back against oppression. Therefore....
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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The new "Combat Magnum" arrived.

20190619_195802(0) by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr

It's a nice gun, and shoots well enough. I look forward to bringing it home and messing with it some.

Unfortunately, I also lost my favorite knife that I've had for some twenty plus years. Hopefully it pops up somewhere.
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My "Combat Magnum" set up to my preferences.
Smith Wesson 66-8 Combat Magnum by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
Smith Wesson 66-8 Combat Magnum by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
Smith Wesson 66-8 Combat Magnum by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
Smith Wesson 66-8 Combat Magnum by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is a pretty S&W.
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sig Sauer P938 BRG Micro-Compact in 9mm.



I'll lay a Beretta 21A-22 LR on top of it for size comparison.



P938 is thinner with hard grips on it.
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Same round count.
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Sig is cool. I like the "SAS" version.

The Beretta is cute. I wouldn't mind one.}
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got my wife the STAND because she was carrying a Kimber in .380. Now she only carries the Kimber on Sundays.

I have to keep the Beretta oiled well. I take the grips off about once a month. It gets sweat on a lot. I only cocked it because the Sig was cocked.
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