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Gregtonn
Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2018 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...and European Police agencies are not known, in general, for high levels of training in martial arts or marksmanship.

I would have to disagree.
The Police officers I knew when I was in Europe were very highly trained and skilled. They also kept themselves in better physical condition than many of the Police officers I have known here.

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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2018 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Regardless of the magazine safety or lack there of, losing a sidearm to a perpetrator is a fight that's already lost.

If one doesn't have control of their weapon to begin with, the idea that removing a magazine is an asset is pretty ill conceived.

Europe has always had a weird aversion to handguns in general, and it shows.

They may have taken our machineguns, but they'll never take our pistols.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would have to disagree.

Yeah, on further reflection I'd like to withdraw that assertion. I was unfair to the police.

I'm still correct on the Why. It may date from the days of magazine cutoffs, for single feed volley fire, with rounds in reserve for when the Zulu charged. : ) The reasoning is understandable.

I don't want a disconnect either, and would have one removed if I got, say, a Ruger 9mm with one.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/13/former-gun-con trol-candidate-charged-shooting-campaign-treasurer /
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, August 13, 2018 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Caught that earlier. Of course the people that don't want you to have guns are generally not among our most trustworthy of individuals.

On my own personal front...I've decided I want too many guns and should stop at the 22 revolver.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://time.com/5366929/school-shooting-trauma-tra ining-high-school-students/?utm_source=feedburner& utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+time%2Ftopsto ries+%28TIME%3A+Top+Stories%29

A great idea for better education. Perverted into a hate propaganda campaign.

First aid training for all would save thousands of lives a year. And cost a few hundred out of over zealous treatment. ( yes, I have experience in volunteer first aid efforts )

Losing our civil rights would cost millions.

Of lives.

Re write the scripts and this is a good idea. Proceed as intended, horror stories.
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just got my first ding on Facebook. Apparently it's "hate speech" to point out that in these "gun free" nations, people are killing each other by arson, bombing, vehicular assault, stabbing, bludgeoning, and acid attacks. Apparent facts are so hateful. That one came quick. It probably had to do with being a story about Londanistan.
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