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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2019 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I haven't given up on the pistol caliber lever project. But I'm willing to consider some unicorns. So far, there's no law says I can't do both.

Pistol caliber lever guns are rare as heck, locally. I'm not the first to consider them a loophole to useful fire power. Not the first to think of the "one caliber" logistics solution by a century & a half.

As to the difference between "defense" & a "fire fight", I contend there is none. Odds are any physical attack are from multiple opponents. Street gangs that beat their mugging victims to death vary in number from 3-6, according to my best information. The local deputies agree. Antifa, or the Leftist Flash Mobs sent to chase you from a restaurant or other public place, are also groups larger than 3. Six? A dozen? How many will be throwing rocks through my Windows as they break into my house?

It's far more likely there are more targets than a five shot Bodyguard .38 can handle without reloading than not.

My limited experience tells me the only survivable strategy in multi attacker scenarios, is brutal, over the top, aggressiveness. The tactical norms of maneuver to limit enemy approach and take them on only one, or two at a time, certainly applies, a necessity. But to get the psychological space to run away, or get them to break off the attack, you have to abandon the rules of polite society. No gentlemanly conduct. You want to have screaming, crippled attackers rolling on the ground, to influence the rest. Sick? No. Practical.

It's easier if there are fewer. If only 3, your odds are much better than 6. The Governor's limit of 7 rounds in a gun just makes mob attacks more common.

Cops who get paid to train often can't hit one criminal with 7 shots. I don't have unrealistic expectations based on ego that I can stop 7 with 7.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2019 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From training, I may get 2 with 6. I am not up to taking bets.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2019 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Until the new Henry, your choice for pointy bullet lever guns was the 1895 & the Savage 99. Both out of production. Neither available to my knowledge in .223.

Really??

https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/rifles/ blr/current-production.html

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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2019 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





Thank You!
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2019 - 05:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/10/five -republicans-join-democrat-push-criminalize-privat e-gun-sales/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/10/dian ne-feinstein-pushes-ban-on-commonly-owned-semiauto matics-high-capacity-mags/

Steps on the way.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2019 - 06:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"King did not mention that Gabby Giffords’ attacker passed a background check for his gun, as did the November October 1, 2017, Las Vegas gunman, the June 12, 2016, Orlando Pulse gunman, the October 1, 2015, Umpqua Community College gunman, the May 23, 2014, Santa Barbara gunman, the July 20, 2012, Aurora movie theater gunman, and the November 5, 2009, Ft. Hood gunman, to name a few."

The killer at the Connecticut school didn't bother with a background check when he killed his mom and stole her guns, either.
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2019 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlMz2sCDCA4
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2019 - 06:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/11/dian ne-feinstein-pushes-ban-205-semiautomatic
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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2019 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Of course it has hidden gems:

http://reason.com/volokh/2019/01/09/textual-analys is-of-hr8-bill-to-to-requi
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2019 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Woo-hoo.

Yesterday - January FIFTEENTH - was the first day this year that Chicago has had NO gun violence. I think they said either 51 or 54 people have been killed this year, so far, in Chicago.

Yea. Gun control works GREAT. Black market is rockin', and law-abiding people can't defend themselves if the need arises.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2019 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-22/gun-conf iscation-heres-how-it-might-actually-go-down

This is a repeat post. Worth reading, as it's written by one who was there when the armed thugs come in unstoppable force to take your legal, registered guns.

And if you resist, your home will be burned down around you and your family.

Like here in the U.S.A. Remember Waco?

The section on ownership, and prediction of the future is key. I won't quote it here, for a Reason! Read it!

End rant.

Home tips!

Large diameter pvc pipe for repair of your waste water lines is smart to have handy, and can save quite a "mess". I recommend the primer & glue combination for sure water proof assembly. It's worked well for me doing plumbing for the last decade.

I don't have any experience with the plastic Harbor freight "ammo boxes" used as ground reinforcement under yard benches, I don't know how moisture resistant, long term, they are.

https://mtmcase-gard.com/products/shooting/survivo rammocan.php

These are excellent, if small, ground reinforcement for light yard sculptures and benches. A bit pricy, compared to HF Chinese junk, but nigh perfect to stabilize the dirt under a swing lounge ( the Amish built ones are popular locally ) especially if filled with metal stuff for weight. Does a good job keeping yard furniture from sinking in the mud.

I welcome other home improvement project suggestions.

Molon Labe is a great battle cry, but not a smart yard sign.
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2019 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can recommend a game to hone your skills.
Geocaching, gives you an excuse for being places and helps develop finding and hiding skills for caches.

Geocaching.com
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Ebutch
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2019 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Ebutch
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2019 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2019 - 05:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/01/c redit_card_companies_have_no_business_playing_seco nd_amendment_censors.html
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2019 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And that's why I pay cash.

For credit rating/business purposes I have one card i use for fuel. It gets paid every month. One car loan and mortgages on two homes is the extent of my debt. Credit cards can kiss my pale a$$.
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Airbozo
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2019 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have no credit cards and have not for almost 20 years. My credit rating is still in the 800's.

I pay cash when I can and use my debit card if I have to.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2019 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Debit cards don't have the protection credit cards do. I only use mine to take money out of an ATM.

I also don't have any financial services in my phone. If I use a credit card over the phone, I'm giving it by voice to a human. No connection between phone and bank. No passwords or account numbers. It's a phone, kindle, and casual surfer only. ( when does the store close? )

Correction, my badweb password in on it. When I start advocating Global Warming hysteria, you know I've been hacked.

But my, and your, habits are not the issue here. This is about evil men pressuring banks to destroy gun businesses. From the manufacturer to the local shop. No loans, no credit, and if your credit card using neighbor wants to buy a gun, or ammo, they want to forbid his purchase. What they can't do legally, steal your property and rights, they'll do underhanded and "subtle". By punishing you and removing your choices.

In NY the Governor illegally destroyed and drove out insurance companies that offered liability coverage for gun owners forced to defend themselves.

And.... Odds are good they'll pass a Bill in NY requiring liability insurance to possess a gun.

Which, oh, look! Is not available. Better surrender your property or you are a felon!

It's already illegal for us to go to the range, and you to let me try your S&W or me to let you try my Charter Arms. Let your son shoot your Colt Woodsman .22 while you supervise and train him? Forbidden.

The bill to make that Federal law is up for a vote in the House. I won't even be able to give my niece a rifle without going through a licensed gun dealer, paying a fee, and an as yet to be determined tax with no upper limit.

And when you can't buy terrorism supplies, like ammo, primers, powder, or bullets, get back to me on how your fiscal wisdom is going.....

Because cash is going illegal. Every transaction can't be monitored with cash. Drugs are a crisis!

So instead of enforcing the law, especially at the border, they'll crack down on You.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2019 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And if the above sounds paranoid, my Governor already told everyone that if they don't agree with him on guns, abortion, drugs, or, anything, we should leave His State.

It's his way or the highway.

And they are working on the plan to tax me completely out of being able to sell my home and leave the State.

Catch twenty F-U.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, January 21, 2019 - 01:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://thefederalist.com/2019/01/17/anti-gun-democ rats-purchase-of-meateater-could-pose-big-problems -for-hunter-focused-company/

Beware of fake pro hunting groups.

Especially beware of those who say things like "I won't go hunting with someone with an AR-15" Those telling you that semiautomatic guns aren't for hunting, & by golly, Clem, a Bolt action is good enough for me!

They are trying to split people into easily destroyed groups.

Semiautomatic rifles have been used for more than a century, to hunt everything.

The failure to sell large numbers of 'semis as Elephant rifles is due to the high costs of making a tiny amount of guns to handle the big Nitro cartridges. But if you really want firepower, a Garand customized to shoot .458 Winchester Magnum was available. I don't know how heavy it is, but it's got to kick less than a featherweight .300 RUM.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/06/ooo d-mccann-industries-458-win-mag-garand/

I know a couple of local smiths who might build one for you. If so, let me know, and we can start a heating pad thread.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, January 21, 2019 - 07:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Debit cards don't have the protection credit cards do.

Only true in some cases.

Orange County's Credit Union as well as Delta Community Credit Union have 0% fraud liability on their debit cards.
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