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Shoggin
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2018 - 01:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I could resemble that remark
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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2018 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Optics, both red dots and magnified, have gotten a lot better in the last few decades. In red dots, battery life can be measured in years instead of hours on the better types, and a medium grade optic surpasses the high end stuff of years past for features and light transmission...though a really good piece of glass is just as expensive today. Getting rid of that last little bit of distortion, aberration, and image tint is still an expensive affair.

We all have different ideas on the perfect carbine. The wife's is not too far from what the InRange guys came up with. Mine is tacticool circa the year 2000, and my kids is going to be 2000's era SOCOM operator.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2018 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rick
Just found out why you’ve never heard of the Marlin.
Aaron said it started as a black-powder only gun that got converted.
Then he found out several of these that got converted would blow out the right side with modern loads, so it’s a “mantelpiece” now...

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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2018 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds about right
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2018 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Because of New York legal reasons, I'm jealous as heck of your builds.

I like free floated barrels, but both your front hand guards look very user friendly.

I really don't like the quad rail hand saws, after actually trying one.

I don't Hate them, just think it's a faddish, bad design.

I also quietly mock choppers covered in spikes to look dangerous. I think they succeed. Just not the way the builder intended, I suspect. Or did they want to look like a suicidal loon?
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2018 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R3FDLiWMUTc

Serious Gun Geek Technical discussion!

Twist rates.

My Bushmaster Varminter, designed to shoot 55-62 grain bullets, had a 1/9 twist and a 22" barrel. Meant for small rodents up to coyote.

The Bushmaster Predator, was nearly The same rifle, but with 1/8 twist, and a 20" barrel. Meant for coyote and sheep, designed for 62-77 grain bullets. ( shorter barrel for weight and moving through brush. The Varmninter was assumed to be used in a more stationary, overwatch mode )

The long barrel was for maximum terminal effect at long range. The wee .224" /5.56 mm bullets are velocity sensitive more than a bigger bullet. But all bullets designed to expand are velocity dependent. If you want expansion at slower speeds ( long range, after it's slowed, being the same as a lower powered cartridge up close ) you make the jacket of the bullet thinner, add skives, ( notches in the jacket ) & add polymer tips. ( the "modern" solution...... Dating back to the 1950's with Remington bronze tip bullets : ) ) The trouble is, a too light bullet, going very fast, may expand too fast at close range. I've witnessed this on a Brown bear, where 30-30 fast expanding soft points expanded in the first 5 inches and never penetrated the chest cavity. At all. That was one really angry bear! Fortunately, they also had a .30-06 with tough bullets and that worked. ( two full tube magazines of worse than useless hits! )

So, while a super fast Weatherby Magnum should use tough bullets to prevent too quick expansion, they also need to work at long range. A very challenging problem for bullet designers. The Good news is American bullet makers include really smart folk, and modern bullets, if you pick the right ones, actually WILL let you keep & eat the cake. And it's not a lie!

I've also witnessed too light bullets vaporize out of a Predator with 1/8 twist. A commercial load with a cute name like critter grenade. Pop, pop, pop, "why aren't I hitting the target?" Just puffs of grey powder about 20 yards out. The centrifugal force just exceeded the structural strength of the bullet.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2018 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Btw, the critter grenade ( don't recall the actual brand ) worked fine in my 1/9 twist barrel. Vaporizer of oranges. I swapped the Predator owner a partial box of Black Hills 62 grain OTM for his partial box of "grenades".

He was ASTOUNDED by the performance of the Black Hills ammo in his gun. He nearly freaked when I told him they were the cheaper once reloaded version.

I unreservedly recommend Black Hills ammo.
Also Hornady. Zero issues, ever.
And Federal Gold Match. I've seen very few rifles that didn't improve with Gold Match, and those few loved Black Hills OTM.

Every gun is an individual, and has it's own preferences.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2018 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I unreservedly recommend Black Hills ammo.

The majority of ammo used by the Ruger factories to test fire weapons is Black Hills. It's good stuff.

Good caliber for coyotes and even hogs is 6.5 Grendel. The best part is you can use an AR-15 lower. I recommend magazines design specifically for the Grendel round.

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