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Griffmeister
| Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 - 08:59 pm: |
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Okay, I'm no frequent flier but it seems to me that it's been a real long time since they allowed smoking on passenger flights. Ten years maybe, I'm thinking even much longer. So I'm on a 737 today and needed to use the facilities (seven hour flight, let's say a couple of times). I close the door and on the inside is an ashtray built into the door. So my first thought is, my S-10 is a little over ten years old and I hesitate to drive it out of state. Here I am over the middle of the Atlantic in a plane built when they needed ashtrays. Needless to say I became a little concerned at that point. Didn't help that the flight was delayed before take-off a half hour for additional maintenance. Made it back though. |
Froggy
| Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 - 10:52 pm: |
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I grew up never knowing that smoking was possible on a plane, I remember watching the movie Airplane, and being confused about the "smoking or non-smoking?" joke with the ticket that is emitting smoke. Commercial airplanes are rigorously maintained, I wouldn't worry about how old it is, I'm sure all the parts that matter have been replaced several times over already. |
Hybridmomentspass
| Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 - 11:02 pm: |
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Maybe you should take better care of your S10 |
Aesquire
| Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 - 11:09 pm: |
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All the Airlines embraced the smoking ban because it lets them turn the A/C down from "clean air in the cabin full of smokers" to "barely enough oxygen to keep them alive". Since the A/C is powered by the engines, this one small thing saves them $billion$ in fuel. Ditto on every part that wears out being replaced on an airliner of any age. Besides, it's a 737. They still make parts. |
Slaughter
| Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 - 12:11 am: |
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George Carlin said that having a smoking section on the plane is like having a peeing section in the pool. |
Pwnzor
| Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 - 06:55 am: |
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We delivery lavatory units to plane builders, and some of them do have ash trays. I was told it's because there are still parts of the world where smoking is allowed on planes, and they make the lavs the same no matter what airline they're going to. I guess it would cost too much to delete that small item from the production line...? |
Tq_freak
| Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 - 08:00 am: |
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Pwnzor - not so much that it would cost money to delete it. Its just more of a headache now we have to keep track of how many With and With-out ashtrays they have, plus they cost of replacement if they mix shipments. the logistics makes it to expensive compared to the useless .50Cent ashtray that fills a hole in a door panel. |
Figorvonbuellingham
| Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 - 08:44 am: |
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The last international flight I was on a year ago the staff was going in the bathroom and smoking. I think a few passengers followed suit. I was very surprised. I find it very amusing how oblivious smokers are to the smell of smoke. They wave the hand around a little and think the smell is gone. If your a non smker you can smell it a 1/4 mile away. My closest neighbor lives about 300 yards from me and when the wind blows this way I can smell it. If I'm following a car with their windows rolled up I smell it. What really cracks me up are women that smoke and wear perfume. If they only knew how bad they stink. Its like spraying perfume in an ashtray. Ok done with stinky smoker rant... |
Badlionsfan
| Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 - 10:47 am: |
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I got on a plane in the late 90's that had a 1967 build date on the tag inside the door frame as I boarded......I quit looking after that. |
Sifo
| Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 - 11:20 am: |
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With pressurized aircraft it's not about the age, but the pressurization cycles. They keep a pretty good record on that. Things like engines are designed for easy replacement. Your S10 should have it so good! |
Malott442
| Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 - 05:30 pm: |
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I actually asked about this, and was told it is FAA law to have an ashtray in the bathroom. It's better to put a butt in there, than to risk burning the plane down by putting it in the trash. I googled to make sure, here's the link: http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=0fc12bc10 9640c17d4907e13ea54c4de&node=se14.1.25_1853&rgn=di v8 |
Pwnzor
| Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 - 08:29 pm: |
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Figorvonbuellingham Agreed on all points. |
No_rice
| Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 - 08:34 pm: |
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My newest truck is 7 years old. My 3 daily driver cars are 20 years old give or take a year or 2. And my 70 go truck still makes 3 or 4 hour trips each way to go visit family and 80+ for hours on end... age is only a number when it comes to vehicles... |
Ourdee
| Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 - 08:47 pm: |
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I remember smoking on plane rides. |
Ourdee
| Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 - 08:48 pm: |
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legally |
Zac4mac
| Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 - 09:56 pm: |
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I worked on off-shore oil rigs in the 70s and there was usually a plane trip involved to get to the rigs. Smoking was standard air-fare, but one trip we decided to smoke a joint... there were 3 of us on a DC-10. A couple of minutes after we finished (and were all glued to the windows flying at night), the stew came over and told us the captain didn't appreciate our smoking. "I won't say anything now, but next time I'll ask you to get off my airplane... at 20k feet up... Never did that again... Last time I smoked on a plane? maybe 1990 or 1991... I remember lighting a smoke in Boston right after we got hit by lightning taking off. also ordered 2 shots of Scotch. I really need a smoke before landing b/c it might be my last, don't fly much lately... Z (Message edited by zac4mac on August 12, 2015) |
Leftcoastal
| Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 - 09:59 pm: |
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I remember attempting to inhale comfortably in the "non-smoking" section of planes and failing at it. As a non-smoker, I was VERY pleased when all US flights went smoke-free. I'm sure all the smokers out there felt just the opposite. Too bad. |
Griffmeister
| Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 12:36 am: |
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I was actually thinking of the L1011 that went down many years ago when the co-pilot bumped the autopilot off in flight. The plane crashed but was not totally destroyed and apparently it is standard practice to recycle salvage components to use on flying aircraft. Was wondering if they got the lav door off an older plane. Of course the story was that ghosts of the dead crew followed the salvaged parts. |
Gobadgers
| Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 04:37 am: |
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On a flight from Istanbul to Cyprus where smoking only stopped more recently, no sooner had we gotten up in the air then found out that the left side of this smaller plane was smoking and right side non-smoking. Almost in unison hands went up on the right side to buzz the stewardess. It almost came to a fist fight. |
Badlionsfan
| Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 07:08 pm: |
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Plenty of salvage parts out there. don't think they need to use crashed parts.... http://www.airplaneboneyards.com/commercial-aviati on-airplane-boneyards-storage.htm |
Johnnylunchbox
| Posted on Friday, August 14, 2015 - 08:20 am: |
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I remember smoking on an international flight around 1989 or 1990. I had to go back to the "smoking section". This was on a 747. Smoking had already been banned on domestic flights by then. |
Aesquire
| Posted on Friday, August 14, 2015 - 10:26 am: |
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Leftcoastal, would you prefer lots of polluted air or not enough? Doesn't matter you get not enough. Bring an blood oxygen meter sometime. You might prefer to sit in smoking. ( a filthy, disgusting habit. ) |