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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2015 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoping to hear some of that interesting news....

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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2015 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Woo Hoo, over here with the IN
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Bartimus
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2015 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I also am in talks to become a Motus dealer hopefully soon!! "
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2015 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Someone at ebrforum.com found a Russian news article today that claims Polaris will buy EBR. Admittedly that's not the most credible source, but it'll be interesting to see if it proves true.

Source: http://www.motonews.ru/news.moto?id=11781

(Message edited by Hughlysses on June 09, 2015)
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Steveford
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2015 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm holding out for the "poop" from North Korea. You know how sneaky the Russians can be.
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Finedaddy1
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2015 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pulled up the article but I can't read Russian.

How ironic if this article was true, the Russian's knowing more about this than the American press...
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Oddball
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2015 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They're just repeating things already speculated on as fact. They are a bit far from the believed involved parties to be taken as a reliable source of info.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2015 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the pic of Erik, shirtless on a horse, fueled speculation.

No hurry on the Motus . . . they're been "about to introduce" as long as I've been "about to retire".

I have my club hat, goodies and all the swag . . . so when they go . . I'll be ready.

I'm betting my retirement comes first.
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Oddball
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2015 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Motus baby block is a cool engine. I think that supercharged creation is more appealing than the production bikes.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2015 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like the look of the Motus, but can't understand why they have a motor with crank inline but use chain final drive.
It's a deal breaker on a bike like that for me.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2015 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way, Mr. grumpy. It's stupid, especially for a sport TOURING bike. Give me a shaft drive I don't even have to think about while I'm out riding.

I've gotten spoiled by my Beemer's shaft drives and my old Buell's belt drive. I don't ever want to have to deal with a drive chain ever again.

Okay, I know the C650GT has a chain final drive... but it's fully enclosed in an oil bath; out of sight, out of mind.
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Steveford
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The price tag of the Motus is what makes it out of the question for me.
You could buy a whole slew of motorcycles for 40 grand or whatever the figure is they were talking about.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And that is exactly what pushed many people away from the 1190RS
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It wasn't so much the money, but they've just not made a bike I'm interested in spending the coin on.
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pretty much my story. The 1190SX was pretty close, except for the Herculean effort required for the clutch. Not an issue if you live in an area without much traffic but a MAJOR issue here in the congested NYC metro area...
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Buelliedan
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jamie,
You do know that the 2015s solved the clutch issue right? If they had stuck around this year the clutch was a non-issue as the pull is so easy my 100 pound wife can handle it.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Clutch pull on my SX feels about the same as my 1125CR. : )
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Strokizator
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The white Motus MSTR sitting in the lobby of the Barber Motorcycle Museum looks road-ready to me. Even though the engine has a fore/aft layout, the transmission turns that 90* and cancels out some of the twisting physics. Adding a drive shaft would introduce another two direction changes (might also have something to do with all the current shaft-drive designs being patent protected). A shaft would be nice but not a deal breaker. If they had ABS I'd be all over it.

Speaking of the Barber Museum, they have a nice display of Buell/EBR cycles. I wonder how long it will stay on the floor.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I sure would like to see that "interesting news" Court mentioned a couple of days ago...
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Finedaddy1
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Me too Hugh. I hope and pray something good comes from this and he gets the backing needed to go forth.

I would love to see him back in business and selling some of the items he designed for Hero,if possible, just for spite!
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Buelliedan
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,
Motus is up and running and are available for sale now if you want one. This would be the closest dealer to you it looks like:


Martin Motorsports
1037 Unger Lane
Boyertown, PA 19512
610-369-3120
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Strokizator
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Buelliedan, any idea what the MPG will be? I think it's a 5.5 gal tank for "good range" whatever that is. I'd like to see a true 200 miles per tank.
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Buelliedan
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have asked the owner of Motus for an answer to the mileage question.
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Buelliedan
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is the answer to the mileage for the Motus direct from the owner


5.5 gallon tank. We see 225 miles/tank when thrashing, 250 when riding "normal" and the record is 286 miles per tank (no luggage, 70mph on the interstate with cruise control).
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ask him the cost.

The last time I spoke to him I asked what the design target was for price. He was very evasive. I tossed out where I thought it would move and he told me I was way off

I'm just learning my way around the business and am curious to see what they decided on.
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Buelliedan
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The motus bikes will start around $30,000
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Davegess
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Motus bikes will start around $30,000

The they will be hard pressed to sell more than 50 a year.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2015 - 06:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's about what I was thinking. I was trying to plot an elasticity curve based on some assumptions and similarly priced products.

The curve steepens at $10,000 ...... We went through that with the first S1 Lightnings.

In the $15k-20k range you need a "hook". In the case on Buell/EBR elevated brand loyalty and community will often tip the scales and get folks to purchase point. In this range good financing programs and "sales" ....."hurry and save $2,000 if you buy before some date" will help move product.

Over the $20k mark ..... With consumer motorcycles .... You're dealing with the crowd that's comfy spending $10k on a watch or $137k for the wife's G63 grocery getter for the weekend house at Sag Harbor.

It will be interesting to see how they set up to provide service and support. The EBR products had at least a resemblance to something most HD dealers had seen before. I'd be hard pressed, stands in Nevada on a Saturday night, to know where to have road service take the Motus.
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2015 - 07:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For $30,000.00 I can get THIS. Someone better have a DAMN good reason for me to spend the same amount of money on a bike that doesn't even come close to that on a feature by feature basis.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2015 - 07:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For $30,000 I can get two of these:

http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-reviews/kawasaki/2014-kawasaki-concours-14-ar160352.html

(Message edited by johnnylunchbox on June 11, 2015)
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