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Greatlaker
Posted on Saturday, May 09, 2015 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It looks like Victory and Roland Sands is building the American sporting bike of your dreams. Trellis frame, V-Twin with liquid cooling, minimal body work.

Ironic that as EBR leaves the picture that Victory would be putting this project together.

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2015/05/project-156 -video-is-victory-building-a-sport-model/
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Elsinore74
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2015 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd certainly like to see Polaris build an American sportbike, w/minimal bodywork, powered by a modern V-twin, and sold at a reasonable price.
Could they pull that off? Absolutely. Will they? Doubtful. Just wouldn't sell in the required numbers.

Hope I'm wrong. If Polaris wants to evolve Victory in another direction, the Project 156 bike would be a good start. How about a cafe racer with a re-purposed Scout motor?

Maybe just build enough to meet homologation requirements for dirt track racing. Finally two American motorcycle companies competing there again, now with overhead cams and liquid-cooling.

Nah; that's crazy talk. If more people had my taste in bikes, the XR1200 would have been H-D's best seller.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2015 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's a thread about this in the racing sub-forum:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/762211.html?1431203962
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Tpoppa
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2015 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Isn't Roland Sands a stylist more than an engineer?

No bodywork, and conventional handlebars. Street fighter sure, but it's not a road racing bike.
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Daddio
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2015 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tpoppa-- Think more of a flat-track style; and, Sands is an accomplished pro racer.
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Macbuell
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2015 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Huge, huge fan, of Roland Sands and his bikes. If this is true ... count me interested but it would probably be a very expensive bike ... at least $20K. When can someone build a good American sport bike with similar price points at the Japanese or European manufactures. I guess those days died when Buell died.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Monday, May 11, 2015 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heck, I'd settle for a good multi-purpose American standard bike with decent lean angle, upright riding position, and mid controls, with easily customizable setups such as luggage and wind protection, and didn't weigh 900 lbs, and didn't scream "look at me I'm a pirate!".
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are times I really regret getting rid of my M2 Cyclone. The ergonomics were PERFECT. It had decent range (I was able to ride it to Daytona Beach and back, stopping only every 200+ miles for gas), was nimble, handled very well and was even fun on the track.

The only downside? It spent nearly as much time in the shop as it did on the road. My Aerostich suit still carries the remnants of that Daytona trip too (the right leg is considerably darker than the left due to the steady mist of oil spraying out of the Buell/K&N oval air filter I'd installed in place of the rural mailbox that came stock).

My perfect motorcycle would've been an M2 Cyclone with modern reliability.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bet that new Indian scout motor would be nice in a sportier configuration.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - 05:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Part 2 video:



The engine appears to be a restyled (and hopefully internally tweaked) version of the Indian Scout water cooled V-twin.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - 06:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Screen capture from video:

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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - 07:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so sad that they paved that road.

I was grumpy for a full season.

I hope they bring the 156 to market - it looks obnoxiously up my alley.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope they bring the 156 to market - it looks obnoxiously up my alley.

Me too, it's the first "new" motorcycle to pique my interest for quite a while.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2015 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Update on Cycle World; bike was revealed today:

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/06/02/victory-motor cycles-racing-reveals-pikes-peak-campaign/



It looks pretty cool, but I wonder how it'd fare against a race prepp'ed 1190SX? Someone ran a modified Buell 1125CR a couple of years ago (with EBR 1190 kit) and came in second, after they'd DROPPED the bike in one turn, picked it up and finished the race!
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2015 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like lots and lots of really spendy bits.
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Jon
Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2015 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like a flat tracker. Nice.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2015 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

this would not survive my standard drop test - but I dig the direction it is heading.
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Finedaddy1
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2015 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like the direction they are going in and hope it "trickles down" to a production bike...w/o the fugly tank/ airbox.

Two thumbs up to Polaris for pursuing a project like this.
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Cadman
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2015 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Link to project 156 pictures

http://www.racingcafe.blogspot.com/2015/06/victory -project-156-race-to-clouds-by.html
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2015 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm trying to get my head around the radiators, did they design it like that? or did they just "stick another one on" until it ran cool enough?
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2015 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the disjointed radiators is to allow clearance for proper downtube articulation.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2015 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pretty sure you lose efficiency with serial radiators. They should put them in parallel so the delta between the water and the air is greater.
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Oddball
Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2015 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Roland has vids and more pics than that blog shows.

http://www.rolandsands.com/wp/2015/04/16/race-to-t he-clouds-project-156
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Thumper74
Posted on Friday, June 05, 2015 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/magpul-is-bringin g-a-one-off-ebr-1190rx-ronin-racer-to-1709156210
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, June 05, 2015 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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