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     Sifo |
When they've been talking about the 50,000 "pages" of emails that have been released to the Benghazi investigation, I didn't realize that they were talking 50,000 literal pieces of paper. Apparently that's exactly what they did to make it so you can't easily search them by computer. Yep, they are doing everything they can to comply, being just as cooperative as humanly possible. Transparent my ass! | ||
| Sifo |
Hillary's E-Mails May Cost Taxpayers Millions
And this b!tch is going to want us to trust her as President? | ||
| Chauly |
And I'll bet the gap in the e-mails is longer than 18-1/2 minutes... | ||
| Sifo |
I see Hillary has already made the excuse for any thing has been deleted from her server, claiming that like most people, she delete many "personal" emails. Basically, "trust me and go screw yourselves". This crew makes Nixon look like an alter boy! | ||
| Court |
>>>>Basically, "trust me and go screw yourselves" Lost of confusion today. Bill has "only sent 2 e-mails in his entire life" (he detailed them today. An hour later Hillary explains that most of what she deleted was "stuff back and forth between Bill and I" Hillary cites one of her "lines of cyber defense" . . as "it was in my house guarded by the Secret Service". Then . . . and hour later . . . IP address shows the server in a "government building" in Lower Manhattan. She claims it would have been impossible to hack and that during her tenure as SOS she sent and received no Classified information. I'm stupid. But . . not that stupid. I don't know enough about this stuff to know if the IP address could be in her house and somehow be made to look like it was somewhere else . . . Anyway . . . . in typical Clinton-esque fashion . . .I think she just told us "I did not have sexual relations with that server" She's toast. Even the Dems are starting to flee her camp., | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Court, I don't even know where to start with this one. SO MANY questions that are not being asked. She has made so many contradictory statements. Like, having one account so she doesn't have to carry two phones. This one week after she stated publicly she had two phones.. Lets start at the bottom. What type of mail server was "she" running. What hardware platform is it running on. Who is the admin? Sure as hell isn't her, she claims she didn't know how to have multiple email accounts on a single device. How the F is she or Bill going to admin an email server? Who all has admin rights? What is the network infrastructure in front of the server? Firewalls? Who is administering them? Routers? Who architected them and who is running/monitoring them? Is said mail network the same as the "home" access? What type of security and encryption is/was in place? What about backups? Where is the backup server located? Who administers and archives the backups? The answers to the above questions will generate MANY more related to that question. For those that don't know, mail server installation and admin is not simple and easy. It VERY rapidly gets into the big leagues. She knew full well what she was doing. You cannot undertake all of this without a good reason. Plain and simple, she is a liar of epic proportions that thinks she is smarter than all of us great unwashed. Problem is, it's us unwashed that keep her shit running! Doesn't matter if it's her own private IT staff or government minions. We know how this stuff works, folks of her ilk have NO clue. This is such a national security risk I can't believe it's not being discussed. In a large scale environment there is division of risk by design. Folks that administer the servers don't have access to the app running on them. Folks that administer the apps don't have full server rights. This is to prevent data loss and the like. She says she stripped off all the "personal" email. I claim BS. She had admins do it. This whole thing reeks so bad there isn't enough Ozium to begin to cover the stench. The $64K question is what do us commoners do about this abject corruption? I'm so pissed I can hardly type. | ||
| Aesquire |
I bet you this will blow over. The other on deck candidates are Just Joe who tells people to shoot through doors. And Geronimo Warren who may have fraudulently got federal funds by lying about being native American. Others will no doubt pop up, but right now they are waiting to see.. the Clintons are very powerful enemies. It may depend on how much Obama hates the Clintons. .... which is a lot. But Barry has his own agenda for change. Years of lies yet to come. | ||
| Reepicheep |
She is obviously lying through her teeth. It's typical Clinton, and without a media or judicial system willing to pursue it, she will likely get away with it. The IP address you see on a request (email or hit to a web site) is the egress point from when you crossed over a private network onto the open Internet. So it is probably NOT your actual IP address, its the IP address of the front door of your virtual compound. And by the nature of the internet, you can use virtual private network and encrypted tunnels such that your front door and your inside parts can be geographically dispersed. So she could easily have the server in her house, but the egress point in a building in Manhattan. Though that does raise some interesting questions about the government owned network connection in Manhattan, and it's connection to her private system. You typically can't do that reliably without credentials, support, and network changes on the receiving end, meaning that this whole setup should not have been a surprise to the owners of that government network (meaning her approach was known and abetted by government IT). | ||
| Sifo |
When will the general public come to the realization that the Democratic party is in dire need of an overhaul. This became clear about the Republicans and the Tea Party started. How long until something similar happens with the Dems? Will young folks really vote for a 68 year old woman, just so that they can elect the first woman President? I'm really not sure about that one, especially after getting credit for the current disaster. Twice! Eventually most people have to start waking up to reality, don't they? | ||
| Sifo |
How can Clinton's logic add up. She claims that because when she sent email to others, it was instantly captured by government servers, fulfilling the requirement that the email must be archived, therefore she is within the law with what she did. This puts the requirement to save the email on the recipient of that email, which is pretty insane in itself. The real problem come when you have this very real situation where Clinton's two top aides were also using private email. Suddenly, correspondence between Hillary and her aids is not archived by our government. To make matters worse, in Clinton's world, this is the fault of the recipient of the email who is doing just as she is doing. My point in all of this is that clearly this was not the intent of the law. My point here is that Clinton did in fact break the law in an effort to thwart FOIA requests, or any more serious inquiries. This is not the person you want for President. IS IT? I'd really like to hear from our Democratic leaning members on this. | ||
| Sifo |
So it turns out that not only were top Clinton aids using private emails, but they were on the Clinton server! So when Clinton said that when she emailed someone else in the government that it would be saved on a government server, she knew beyond a shadow of any doubt that she was lying her ass off. There were numerous other points that she was clearly lying about too. Seems to me that when you call a press conference where the theme is basically "trust me", it would be best to refrain from such blatant lies, at least for the opening statements of the news conference. Trust her? I don't think so! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2990404/Di d-three-Hillary-Clinton-aides-use-private-clintone mail-com-server-ran-State-Department-Two-news-outl ets-say-s-so.html | ||
| Reindog |
Just look at Shrillary's body language and eye movements during her "press conference" yesterday. Reminds my of Jon "yeah... thats the ticket" Lovett. Evasion, lies, and half truths define her lack of character. It is a really sad state that ANYONE would even consider voting for her. | ||
| Court |
Hillary's problem's are getting exponentially worse. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Just like with Leona Helmsley, rules are for the little people. The current DOJ won't do a thing. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Interesting find Court. I wonder if anyone will pursue it in the face of the normal Clinton promise to make it all as messy and painful as is humanly possible. (A selfish and despicable, but highly effective strategy). | ||
| Court |
I'm not certain they will get to make a "pursue / not pursue" choice. The Associated Press has filed suit and the United States State Department has some hard and fast rules and procedures that all to ALL employs upon their departure. They carry sufficient gravity that failure to comply is a felony. Essentially . . . 1) Hillary is guilty for NOT complying or 2) Someone at the State Dept. is guilty for not having her sign the documents, doing the REQUIRED inventory and complying. She, since the time she was fired as a young lawyer for ethical violations, has a habit of lying and deceit. In terms of candidacy . . she;s like,ely toasty as most those intent on bringing her down, at this point, are Democrats who are angered at putting their support and $$ behind her, and her alone, and having her screw them over. | ||
| Court |
By the way . . . that silly notion that we should ignore these crimes based on the cost of investigating is hilarious. Think of the millions spent to pursue that police officer in Ferguson who even the Eric Holder DOJ had to declare did precisely the right thing and that the majority of the witnesses had lied. Michael Brown was the victim, as a result of his own doing, of justifiable homicide. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I don't know enough about how these things actually play out... Had I lied under oath, like Bill Clinton did, would I have gone to jail (like he didn't)? Or would I just have also been in a legal and damaging quagmire (like he was). I hope they prosecute and that she (and maybe a few others) see jail time to send a message to our federal government about who they serve, and what we will tolerate. The other way to send the message is national revolt against extralegal tyranny, which ends up with a lot more people dead. The judicial branch needs to do their job, and the media needs to hold them to it and help us understand it. Both the judiciary and the media has been politicized hard to the social democratic left, and that has historically ended with a lot of dead people (Germany in WWII, Stalin afterwards). | ||
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I would stand side by side with Democrats if a Republican Secretary of State had committed the same transgressions as Hill. Case closed?.........Nuts!  Dems: Case closed on Clinton emails By Mike Lillis and Jonathan Easley - 03/11/15 excerpt: Congressional Democrats are circling the wagons around former secretary of State Hillary Clinton in the face of escalating attacks from Republicans over her use of a personal email account in the Obama administration. Democrats say Clinton broke no laws, and accused Republicans of drumming up flimsy charges for the sole purpose of undermining her likely run for the White House in 2016. "It's very clear that she followed the law and she followed the rules … and so there's nothing there except politics," Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) said Wednesday, adding that the GOP criticisms are "without a doubt" related to the next presidential race. http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/235399-dems-c ase-closed-on-clinton-emails | ||
| Sifo |
I'm not certain they will get to make a "pursue / not pursue" choice. It's not often that I disagree with Court, but I just don't see how the DOJ will be compelled to pursue any action against Clinton. Every case they consider, they choose to either pursue or pass. I will be shocked if they pursue this one. If Clinton were to get elected, you will have another 4 years of a DOJ that will keep this swept under the rug. I do agree that it is very clear, based on Clinton's own words at her new conference, that a felony occurred. I just don't know how this can be any clearer. | ||
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| Sifo |
Let me put it this way. At one point BO said that it looked like something illegal happened with the IRS going after conservative groups. Since then, it's been pretty well confirmed, but the congressional investigations have been stonewalled, and the DOJ is nowhere to be found. This is what you get from a totalitarian government. FIFTYS | ||
| Chauly |
Where IS Brian? | ||
| Reindog |
This is a War on Women.... I mean.... This is a vast Right Wing Conspiracy.... I mean..... Look, SQUIRREL!  | ||
| Sifo |
It looks like this was a systemic problem during Clinton's reign over the state department. Of more than a billion emails, only 61,156 were marked to be kept for public records? Does that mean that more than 999,938,844 of those were about yoga schedules? These people work for the people. If you had an employee who was keeping these sorts of secrets from you, what would you do? Inspector finds State Department lax on preserving emails | ||
| Court |
I tend to agree that . . . given the current state of ethics in government . . that the instant matter will simply fade. But . . . I suspect many of those guilt and their associates fail to realize that real Americans are watching and learning. This is not the way things are done in the America our founders who carved out and fought for our freedom envisioned. We've evolved to a national nipple with a significant portion of the populous suckling at the federal teet. It is . . . .to implore a popular word . . "non-sustainable". Many of us, watching as if neutered, have "made other plans" having lost a great deal of respect for and need to adhere to rules made by these folks. |
