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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PS: One more question while it's on my mind: Can a black person be a racist, or is it only whites that can be racist? Thx.
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dang, another question! Do you agree with the Grand Jury decision re: Officer Wilson?
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry, I'm flooding you with stuff here, sorry about that. Where, specifically, do you get your news?

OK, back to w*rk. : )
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2014 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PS: One more question while it's on my mind: Can a black person be a racist, or is it only whites that can be racist? Thx.

I know a lot of racists. I know racists from more than 2 ethnic groups. It is not illegal in the United States to be a racist. It is legal to believe a particular race is superior to another race. It does not even matter if you are not a member of that race. You just have to subordinate an individuals identity to a groups identity based on biological differences between peoples.
However practicing racism or more precisely racial discrimination can cross the line from thinking what you want to violating the law through illegal actions. Mind crimes are not illegal without action. Think what you want brothers. Just don't do stupid stuff. I try to think in terms of equality while in the back of my mind there is paint on the barn saying some animals are more equal than others. We all have prejudices. Some of us are better than others at not acting upon them. Problems arise when prejudice is from ignorance and not based on facts.
The whole time I've been watching Ferguson in the back of my mind is the thought that most of the community is not acting out illegally.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2014 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The whole time I've been watching Ferguson in the back of my mind is the thought that most of the community is not acting out illegally.

That must be comforting to the business owners who have been burned out...again...

Re: my question, the answer is yes, ANYONE can be a racist. However, the left, with collusion from the mainstream media, wants to convince us that only WHITES can be racist. We don't like the pResident, for example? That's because we're racists!

Odd, considering how much I equally despise Biden, Reid, Pelosi and our former Sec of State.

I find this quote from Booker T. Washington to be profound; he knew it when he saw it a century ago, but I bet he'd be aghast that it still goes on today:

quote:

“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs – partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”



Game, set, match.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2014 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Searched for Allen West here in the QB, lots of hits, mostly on the pResident Zero thread, but also elsewhere. So much positive stuff I could post up about this man, and this isn't really the thread for it, but dang, if this man was our President!

In this clip from last year he's at his best. Heck, he's ALWAYS at his best:



http://youtu.be/IQQ0CVLqKHc
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2014 - 03:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Words to inspire us all in their simplest truth.

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Torquehd
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2014 - 04:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know a lot of racists. I know racists from more than 2 ethnic groups.
Yep. Some groups make it obvious that they're racist, but if the majority race accuses them of such, they throw a hissy fit and act like someone took their binky.

You just have to subordinate an individuals identity to a groups identity based on biological differences between peoples.

Sounds very socialist. Not very constitutional. Which party has been working towards this goal?

I try to think in terms of equality while in the back of my mind there is paint on the barn saying some animals are more equal than others.
More equal to eachother, but not of greater or lesser value. Races are different, and in this PC day, you can't talk about, or joke about the differences, without some idiot accusing you of being the "R" word.

The whole time I've been watching Ferguson in the back of my mind is the thought that most of the community is not acting out illegally.

Point of this? Nazi, Germany reference? Downplaying the actions of the criminals? Really not sure where you're going with that.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2014 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It wasn't that long ago that racist violence was executed via corrupt law enforcement, or at least with corrupt law enforcement turning a blind eye. Particularly in the south.

But by "not that long ago", I mean "30 years ago".

It is critical that every officer involved killing get very high levels of diligence and extremely rigorous investigation and prosecution for illegal acts. I will always support that.

But facts are facts and the investigation should be to find the truth, not to fit any narrative. The grand jury did a good job here I think. Had the original false narrative been true, I would have supported either first or second degree murder charges against the officer. They weren't.

Communities that can't put some level of objectivity over emotion will continue to be live in some level of slavery of those that will *so* easily manipulate them.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2014 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Point of this? Nazi, Germany reference? Downplaying the actions of the criminals? Really not sure where you're going with that.

Very simple statement that the actors are not the majority. Not all the protesters were committing criminal acts. I do not down play the acts of the criminals.


Let me help you with this bit of the ludicrous, HITLER HITLER HITLER, There I said it for you. What in the world does Nazi, Germany have to do with this thread?

What are the aircraft flying patterns over Ferguson at about 1000 feet. One or two at a time with the call signs RD2, RD3, RD4, and RD5. One of them has incredible range. 3 and 5 have just left the area heading west currently at 87 and 91 mph at 335 meters and 366 meters.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2014 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe they will land in Chesterfield again.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2014 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reconnaissance Drone 2?
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2014 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got Ourdee's point.

While some if not most of the barbarians in Ferguson are locals they are a tiny minority and were enabled by the professional mob hate shills. (The folk who sponsor them count as evil in my book )

Race has nothing to do with mob behavior. An excuse by the creators of mob violence, sure. Like the " occupy movement" there are local thugs, idiots, professional trouble makers while the folk who profit stay in 5 star hotels away from the tear gas.

I sure don't blame anything on the "people" of Ferguson. They got screwed and from more than one direction. ( the same ideology )
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2014 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ratbuell, The weird part is it looks like RD4 flew over 2000 miles from out of country and has been loitering for a few hours. I tracked it do some goofy stuff like that the other day. RD2 was up a few minutes ago. To me it is odd that no one has been complaining about them to the media. I don't plan on going close enough to get a visual on them.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2014 - 07:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Curious... how are you tracking the drones?
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2014 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://planefinder.net/
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2014 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

An inconvenient truth.

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Reindog
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2014 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Liberals Willing to Fight to the Last Drop of Black Blood
By Ann Coulter · Nov. 27, 2014

The riot in Ferguson reminds me, I hate criminals, but I hate liberals more. They planned this riot. They stoked the fire, lied about the evidence and produced a made-to-order riot.

Every other riot I’ve ever heard of was touched off by some spontaneous event that exploded into mob violence long before any media trucks arrived. This time, the networks gave us a countdown to the riot, as if it were a Super Bowl kickoff.


From the beginning, Officer Darren Wilson’s shooting of Michael Brown wasn’t reported like news. It was reported like a cause.

The media are in a huff about the prosecutor being “biased” because his father was a cop, who was shot and killed by an African-American. What an assh@le!

Evidently, the sum-total of what every idiot on TV knows about the law is Judge Sol Wachtler’s 20-year-old joke that a prosecutor could “indict a ham sandwich.” We’re supposed to be outraged that this prosecutor didn’t indict the ham sandwich of Darren Wilson.

Liberals seem not to understand that they don’t have a divine right to ruin someone’s life and bankrupt him with a criminal trial, just so they’re satisfied.

The reason most grand jury investigations result in an indictment is that most grand juries aren’t convened solely to patronize racial mobs. Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon was basically demanding an indictment of Wilson before Big Mike’s body was cold. It was only because of racial politics that this shooting wasn’t dismissed without a grand jury, at all.

Obama says anger is an “understandable reaction” to the grand jury’s finding. Why? And why – as almost everyone is saying – are we supposed to praise the “peaceful protests”?

There’s nothing to protest! A cop shot a thug who was trying to kill him. The grand jury documents make perfectly clear that Big Mike was entirely responsible for his own death. Can’t the peaceful protesters read?

The night of the riot, Obama said the law “often feels as if it is being applied in discriminatory fashion.” Maybe, but not in this case – except toward Officer Wilson.

I know liberals were hoping they had finally found the great white whale of racism, but they’re just going to have to keep plugging away. They might want to come up with a more productive way to spend their time, inasmuch as they’re about 0:100 on white racism sightings.

Anyone following this case has seen the video of Big Mike robbing a store and roughing up an innocent Pakistani clerk about 10 minutes before being shot by Officer Wilson. They’ve seen him flashing Bloods gang signs in photos.

They know Brown’s mother was recently arrested for clubbing grandma with a pipe over T-shirt proceeds. They’ve seen the video of Brown’s ex-con stepfather shouting at a crowd of protesters after the grand jury’s decision: “Burn this bitch down!”

Liberals will say none of that is relevant in court, but apparently they don’t think actual evidence is relevant either. It’s certainly relevant in the court of public opinion that the alleged victims are a cartoonishly lower-class, periodically criminal black family.

TV hosts narrated the riot by saying it showed “the community” feels it’s not being listened to. Only liberals look at blacks looting and say, See what white Americans made them do?

That’s their proof of injustice – look at how blacks are reacting! (While I don’t approve of the looting part, I do approve of the whole throwing-bottles-at-CNN part.)

The looters aren’t the community!

The community doesn’t want black thugs robbing stores and sauntering down the middle of its streets. The community doesn’t want to be assaulted by Big Mike. The community didn’t want its stores burned down.

That community testified in support of Officer Darren Wilson. About a half-dozen black witnesses supported Officer Wilson’s version of what happened. One was a black woman, who saw the shooting from the Canfield Green apartments. Crying on the stand, she said, “I have a child and that could have been my son.”

And yet, she confirmed all crucial parts of Wilson’s account. She said “the child” (292-pound Big Mike) never had his hands up and the cop only fired when “the baby” was coming at him. “Why won’t that boy stop?” she asked her husband.

I always want to know more about the heroic black witnesses. They are put in a position no white person will ever be in and do the right thing by telling the truth – then go into hiding from “the community” being championed by goo-goo liberals.

White people don’t feel any obligation to defend some thug just because he’s white. Only blacks are expected to lie on behalf of criminals of their own race.

But real heroism doesn’t interest liberals. They only ooh-and-ahh over blacks with rap sheets. The only meaningful white racism anymore is the liberal infantilization of black people.

http://patriotpost.us/opinion/31305
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2014 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The grieving mother demanded a piece of the action over her dead son. Why are we hearing about this now? Where has the MSM been?

Police ID Michael Brown's Mother as Alleged Robbery Attacker
by Kerry Picket 9 Nov 2014

The Smoking Gun website posted a police report describing a brawl among members of Michael Brown’s family regarding the sale of commemorative t-shirts.

...

The late teen’s mother, Lesley McSpadden, is said to have been one of the “attackers” who physically assaulted and robbed merchandise from a tent in a parking lot in Ferguson, Missouri.

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According to the report, on October 18, the Ferguson Police Department report details the incident between McSpadden and other family members that took place on W. Florissant Avenue, a well-known strip of road where Ferguson protesters gather often.

The report says that Pearlie Gordon, 54, and two men were selling “Justice for Mike Brown” shirts on a Saturday when “a large group of about 20-30 subjects ‘jumped out of vehicles and rushed them.’” Gordon is the mother-in-law of Michael Brown Sr., McSpadden's ex-husband.

Gordon told law enforcement that McSpadden, 34, told her, “You can’t sell this shit.” Gordon then replied, according to the report, that “unless McSpadden could produce documentation saying that she had a patent on her son’s name she (Gordon) was going to continue to sell her merchandise.”

read it all here -> http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/11/07 /Mike-Brown-s-Mother-ID-ed-As-Robbery-Attacker
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2014 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool website. Bookmarked.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2014 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't believe you can track a drone on that website. Military planes rarely ever appear on that site because the FAA, whose radar is used to compile SOME of the data on that web site, redacts such information for obvious reasons.
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2014 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Greatlaker, you still with us? I'd love to visit with you.

*****

I posted a quote from Booker T. Washington earlier. There are plenty of sources for this quote online, but the source below includes the quote in it's entirety, and in context. It's included in an article that was written regarding the savage media gang-rape of Herman Cain back in 2011, when he started gaining traction as a possible contender for the Presidency.

It's hard to believe Mr. Washington wrote these words more than a century ago; rather, it's as if they were written a few months into 0bama's first term, when it became very apparent that 0bama was going to accomplish much of his "transformation" using the race card. He and Holder are a pair to draw to, to be sure, and both of them have played this card remarkably well (owning the media sure helps...)

This is excellent reading, and I post the piece in its entirety.

quote:

Booker T. Washington on Black Victimhood
Oct 24, 2011 by Gary DeMar

Black racists are coming out of the woodwork. It’s hard to imagine how vile and bigoted they are in their attacks on Herman Cain. Such treatment has a long history. Today, it’s an industry.

A number of black “leaders” (e.g., Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton) have made their living by promoting black victimhood and white guilt. Jesse Jackson has been shaking down corporations with the scam for decades. Booker T. Washington (1865–1915) warned of such people within the black community in his 1911 book My Larger Education. He described them as “problem profiteers”:


quote:

“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs – partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.” (p. 118)



Washington could have had in view, although writing nearly a hundred years ago, black people who are railing against Herman Cain and other blacks who have not succumbed to plantation living. Cain doesn’t present himself as a victim, and this disturbs people like Al Sharpton. Cain lived at a time when there were “colored” water fountains, segregated schools and neighborhoods, and racial discrimination that few people today can imagine. If anyone has a right to play the victim card, it’s Cain. He didn’t feel sorry for himself. He stayed out of trouble, worked hard, and made something of himself without the help of a cadre of “poverty pimps.” Cain is the antithesis of the Democrat Party and 90 percent of blacks who support it.

Washington continues with a story that encapsulates what is wrong with so many black “leaders” and their guilt-ridden white supporters. Those victimizing blacks are other blacks:

quote:

A story told me by a coloured man in South Carolina will illustrate how people sometimes get into situations where they do not like to part with their grievances. In a certain community there was a coloured doctor of the old school, who knew little about modern ideas of medicine, but who in some way had gained the confidence of the people and had made considerable money by his own peculiar methods of treatment. In this community there was an old lady who happened to be pretty well provided with this world’s goods and who thought that she had a cancer. For twenty years she had enjoyed the luxury of having this old doctor treat her for that cancer. As the old doctor became — thanks to the cancer and to other practice — pretty well-to-do, he decided to send one of his boys to a medical college. After graduating from the medical school, the young man returned home, and his father took a vacation. During this time the old lady who was afflicted with the “cancer” called in the young man, who treated her; within a few weeks the cancer (or what was supposed to be the cancer) disappeared, and the old lady declared herself well.

When the father of the boy returned and found the patient on her feet and perfectly well, he was outraged. He called the young man before him and said: “My son, I find that you have cured that cancer case of mine. Now, son, let me tell you something. I educated you on that cancer. I put you through high school, through college, and finally through the medical school on that cancer. And now you, with your new ideas of practicing medicine, have come here and cured that cancer. Let me tell you, son, you have started all wrong. How do you expect to make a living practicing medicine in that way?”

I am afraid that there is a certain class of race problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public.



If the patient gets well, an entire industry of victimhood will get cancer and die. This would be the best thing for the black community. Until blacks throw off the shroud of victimhood, they will be at the mercy of “doctors” who treat a cancer that does not exist but that they are paying for.

Source: http://americanvision.org/5276/booker-t-washington -on-black-victimhood/
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2014 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ferris, I have just been wanting to know what the aircraft with call signs RD2, RD3, RD4, and RD5 are. They fly patterns over Ferguson at just under 500 meters from approximately 70 mph to 120 mph. They appear to be serviced near Chesterfield this week. When 2 are in the air at the same time they usually fly with 100 feet of altitude separating them. Their loiter times seem too long for helicopters. They sometimes take side trips. Any guesses about my UFOs?
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2014 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They have a Ryan International Airlines tag on the map label/tag. Read what Wikipedia has to say about RIA. Their former employers were USPS, USDOD, USDOJ, and DHS. At this point they look like they shouldn't exist.
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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2014 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Happy Thanksgiving, all.

(Message edited by reindog on November 30, 2014)
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2014/11/25/nyt-ferg uson-hall-of-shame/?singlepage=true
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So driving past St Louis Saturday after noon, you can see the arch from 255 in a couple of spots. Yesterday I saw it with black smoke rising nearby. I tried to grab my camera and get a shot. The arch was just barely visible when I snapped the shot. Damn SUV photo bombed it. The smoke can be seen just above the hood of the SUV. I would guess this was where they were closing off route 44 with their "demonstrations". Funny, this doesn't seem to be making news at this point. It would have made a great photo when I first saw it, the arch was clearly visible with smoke just to it's left. I should have had the camera handy, but didn't really expect to see anything at 2:40 in the afternoon.



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Fb1
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reindog: Happy Thanksgiving, amigo.

FB&D : ): )
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Court
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Peaceful protests

http://nypost.com/2014/11/29/why-cnn-wants-you-to- believe-the-ferguson-protests-were-peaceful/
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

17 arrests. None from Ferguson. Imported rioters.
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