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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I read the following:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/ 12/examining-the-nations-ebola-response/17059283/

Reminded me of something someone here used to warn us about.

U.S. Lacks a Single Standard for Ebola Response

… Public health is the purview of the states, and as the nation anticipates more Ebola cases, some experts say the way the United States handles public health is not up to the challenge.

"One of the things we have to understand is the federal, state and local public health relationships," says Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. "Public health is inherently a state issue. The state really is in charge of public health at the state and local level. It's a constitutional issue. The CDC can't just walk in on these cases. They have to be invited in."

Murphy says some of the issues in Texas stem from a "system problem" in the way public health care is managed in the USA. The Centers for Disease Control provides only guidance for infection prevention and management. "What they do in Texas, what they do in Illinois, it's up to the state," he says.

"The question is, who's in charge?" Murphy says. "The states can follow all the guidelines and take the advice, which they usually do, but they don't have to. It's not a legal requirement. So there really is no one entity that's controlling things."


Paving the way for a more "resilient" capability under mandatory federal control?

FHFTUS?
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Torquehd
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 02:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never let a good crisis go to waste.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The CDC can't just walk in on these cases. They have to be invited in." …

I'm sure I heard that before somewhere, let me think, where was it? Oh yeah, Austria, Korea, Viet Nam, Ukraine...
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Elsinore74
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Invited in."

Mr. Grumpy, I have to respectfully disagree with the analogy of those countries named. I think in this case the intervention is focused within our borders.

Think of: Blair Mountain, Wounded Knee, Ruby Ridge, Waco, and most recently Clark County, NV. Common thread is the maintenance of good order and public safety.

Austria? Like most Yanks, all I really know about WWII I learned from "The Sound of Music," and it seemed like, with the exception of those trouble-making Von Trapps, the Germans were quite welcome there.
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah I cited some extreme examples, the principle remains the same though.

If you prefer a closer analogy, it's said that a vampire is unable to enter your home unless you invite it in.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The CDC can't just walk in on these cases. They have to be invited in." …

I'm sure I heard that before somewhere, let me think, where was it?"


Katrina. Federal assistance has to be requested. By law. Naw, just kidding. George Bush hates black people.
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