| Author | Message | ||
     Hootowl |
"Islam has never not been at war with the rest of the world. The rest of the world just didn't understand it." Ding! Ding! Ding! | ||
| Sifo |
How quickly liberals tend to spin... | ||
| Sifo |
BTW, who exactly is in this coalition and what are their commitments? I understand this is less than transparent. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I wish the media would harp on that Biden clip like they harped on "read my lips, no new taxes" or "mission accomplished". | ||
| Brentx1 |
I typically just lurk on this topic and I am not the smartest guy here, so don't tear into me too much. I think this whole Syria thing is to get the presidents approval numbers up. If he looks like he is doing something, the masses (sheep) will follow. The media will praise him for being aggressive and not the "weak president". ISIS is certainly a threat and the entire world should be striking them, but nobody wants to be the next ISIS target. Cowards. | ||
| Aesquire |
Obama very directly caused ISIS. Obama's gun running program gave them guns. Obama's policies gave them leaders. Obama's policies gave them targets. Obama's policies gave them cover. Obama's past actions in supporting revolutions and going to war.....and more important in some way betraying revolution in Iran. .......... always result in jihadist victory. This is not the first war Obama started with zero legal authority........unless you view it as one long betrayal of civilization. Which is how Obama's ghost writers put it in his biographies. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2014/09/22/bho-goes -to-war/?singlepage=true Watch the video at the bottom of this article, please. http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2014/09/22/us- bombs-syria-can-we-say-that/ | ||
| Torquehd |
Edit: This is a response to the video in Aesquire's link.... you honestly expect anyone to believe that YOU ended the war???? You arrogant F^@#, You have never served in the United States Military. You wouldn't think of spending one day of your life sacrificing your own personal desires, let alone your life, for the citizens of the United States. Have you ever had a hard days work? Have you ever woke up at 3am, put on 60 pounds of kit, and walked all day in the 120 degree heat? Have you ever been shot at? Have you ever watched your friends get their legs blown off by enemy fighters? Do you know what it's like to place others before yourself? To follow orders? Do you have the faintest idea of SERVICE??? WARS are not won by #$^&^%$ sitting in air conditioned offices. EVEN if you are stupid enough to think that you ended anything in Iraq... To say that YOU did it... GFYFS. (Message edited by torquehd on September 24, 2014) | ||
| Alfau |
who exactly is in this coalition and what are their commitments Everyone the US has blackmailed into submission, and the commitment is OIL. | ||
| Torquehd |
who exactly is in this coalition The more the better. The islamic state (ISLAM) is a rising tide. If you're not on board, you will be soon. On one side or the other. If you honestly think we're in iraq for oil... this was some bullshit thought up by hippies who hated fossil fuels, and George W. If you knew ANYTHING about islamic history, or the intel that we've gained about the solid plans of islamic groups, or middle eastern history in general, you would understand exactly why our involvement in Iraq, and Afghanistan, and the Philippines, are all absolutely necessary (Do you even know about our involvement in the Philippines? It's open source, Google it). Why the F don't we have boots on the ground in Pakistan? Why aren't we in Syria on a large scale? Why have we abandoned Israel? Why the F is Turkey part of the UN? If you honestly buy into the "war for oil" BS.... first of all, let's falsely assume that that is the reason why - go research POL, and find out exactly how important oil is, and decide for yourself whether or not it's worth fighting for. Secondly, you need to understand that the UNITED STATES has more oil than Iraq ever thought about having... Thirdly, you need to think about where you get your news from. Alfau... don't be coy. Australia understands the islamic threat as much as any other FVEY country - google that shit, if you've never heard of it. You can thank the FVEY countries for the world for having some semblance of humanity in this day and age. | ||
| Alfau |
http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/persiangulf.htm (Message edited by alfau on September 24, 2014) | ||
| Reindog |
The Idiot is blathering at the United Nations this minute. He sounds like a jayvee high school debater talking platitudes and ultimately nothing. | ||
| Reindog |
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| Reindog |
Semper Latte. What else would you expect from this disrespectful oaf?  | ||
| Sifo |
The Idiot is blathering at the United Nations this minute. He sounds like a jayvee high school debater talking platitudes and ultimately nothing. I just caught a bit of it when I got home this morning. Tuned in just in time to hear some line about "we need to declare war on war, to achieve peace on peace". WTF??? Is that supposed to sound profound in some way? Best hope is that those who don't know English at the UN will thing something got lost in the translation. | ||
| Reindog |
I turned this Fool off and switched to the AHC (American Heros Channel) which had the history of terrorism from Al-Queda to Libya to Che Guevara. | ||
| Sifo |
I was kind of hoping I had misheard what he said, but here is the exact quote...
Full text of President Obama’s 2014 address to the United Nations General Assembly This from a man who was once described as articulate. | ||
| Court |
>>>>> the people of the world committing to resolve their differences peacefully, Kind of an unusual thing to say when you just ordered (and I support it) over 200 air strikes the previous night. The idiot is totally out of touch with the events taking place in the world and still seems to think he's going to hold a "beer summit" with some of the world's worst actors and achieve a kumbaya moment. Shit for brains. | ||
| Joel9 |
Rein, that pic makes me sad, ill. As with most of the crap he pulls. keep up the good work guys, all of us lurkers are still here, and in many other threads. Thanks! | ||
| Reindog |
Joel9, My pleasure to disseminate information. Thanks for your post as it really helps to know others are listening whether they agree or not. | ||
| Fb1 |
What else would you expect from this disrespectful oaf?  | ||
| Reindog |
THIS is what I expect from the Hater of The United States of America: pResident Smidgeon. Targeting the Constitution By Nicholas Quinn Rosenkranz September 23 It is now well known that the IRS targeted tea party organizations. What is less well known, but perhaps even more scandalous, is that the IRS also targeted those who would educate their fellow citizens about the United States Constitution. According to the inspector general’s report (pp. 30 & 38), this particular IRS targeting commenced on Jan. 25, 2012 — the beginning of the election year for President Obama’s second campaign. On that date: “the BOLO [‘be on the lookout’] criteria were again updated.” The revised criteria included “political action type organizations involved in … educating on the Constitution and Bill of Rights.” Grass-roots organizations around the country, such as the Linchpins of Liberty (Tennessee), the Spirit of Freedom Institute (Wyoming), and the Constitutional Organization of Liberty (Pennsylvania), allege that they were singled out for special scrutiny at least in part for their work in constitutional education. There may have been many more. The tea party is viewed with general suspicion in some quarters, and it is not difficult, alas, to imagine the mindset of the officials who decided to target tea party organizations for special scrutiny. But federal officers swear an oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” It is chilling to think that these same officials who are suspicious of the tea party are equally suspicious of the Constitution itself. What is most corrosive about this IRS tripwire is that it is triggered by a particular point of view; it is not, as First Amendment scholars say, viewpoint-neutral. It does not include obfuscating or denigrating the Constitution; only those “involved in … educating on the Constitution” are captured by this criterion. This viewpoint targeting potentially skews every national debate about politics or government. And the skew is not strictly liberal; indeed, it should trouble liberals as much as conservatives. The ultimate checks on executive power are to be found in the United States Constitution. Insidiously, then, suppressing those “involved in … educating on the Constitution” actually skews national debate in favor of unchecked executive power. For example, this IRS tripwire would not be triggered by arguing that the NSA should collect the phone records of every American citizen. But it would be triggered by teaching that the Fourth Amendment forbids “unreasonable searches and seizures.” This tripwire would not be triggered by arguing that the president should unilaterally suspend politically inconvenient provisions of federal law, like ObamaCare. But it would be triggered by teaching that, under Article II, section 3, the president “shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed.” This tripwire would not be triggered by arguing that the president should appoint NLRB members unilaterally. But it would be triggered by teaching that, under Article II, section 2, such appointments require “the Advice and Consent of the Senate.” This tripwire would not be triggered by arguing that the president should target and kill U.S. citizens abroad. But it would be triggered by teaching that, per the Fifth Amendment, no person shall “be deprived of life … without due process of law.” This tripwire would not be triggered by arguing that the president should declare war unilaterally. But it would be triggered by teaching that, under Article I, section 8, “Congress shall have Power … To declare War.” In short, the IRS was “on the lookout,” not for those who preach unlimited executive power, but for those who would teach about constitutional constraints. Even more to the point, perhaps, this IRS tripwire would not be triggered by arguing that the IRS should discriminate against the tea party. But it would be triggered by teaching that such discrimination constitutes unfaithful execution of the tax laws. And thus, alas, there is a perverse logic to targeting constitutional educators alongside tea party organizations. Political discrimination in the administration of the tax laws is not merely “outrageous,” as Obama has said; it is an assault on our constitutional structure itself. For an official who has chosen to go down this road and target the tea party, there is an Orwellian logic to targeting constitutional educators as well. After all, they are the ones who might shed light on this very point. This is a new low for American government — targeting those who would teach others about its founding document. Forty years ago, President Richard Nixon went to great lengths to try to conceal the facts of his constitutional violations, but it never occurred to him to conceal the meaning of the Constitution itself, by targeting its teachers. Politicians have always been tempted to try to censor their political adversaries; but none has been so bold as to try to suppress constitutional education directly. Presidents have always sought to push against the constitutional limits of their power; but never have they targeted those who merely teach about such limits. In short, never before has the federal government singled out for special scrutiny those who would teach their fellow citizens about our magnificent Constitution. This is the new innovation of Obama’s IRS. “We the People” do not yet know who first decided to target “political action type organizations involved in … educating on the Constitution and Bill of Rights.” But there is at least one person who does know. Ironically, though, Lois Lerner, former director of the Exempt Organizations Division of the IRS, is making full use of her own constitutional education: “I have been advised by my counsel to assert my constitutional right not to testify …. One of the basic functions of the Fifth Amendment is to protect innocent individuals, and that is the protection I’m invoking today.” Five years ago, Obama, our constitutional law professor-in-chief, presented his first, ringing Constitution Day proclamation: “To succeed, the democracy established in our Constitution requires the active participation of its citizenry. Each of us has a responsibility to learn about our Constitution and teach younger generations about its contents and history.” Quite so. Perhaps this year, Obama could explain why his IRS would target those who answered this call. source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspira cy/wp/2014/09/23/targeting-the-constitution/ | ||
| Fb1 |
Do you know that it was the DOJ that ordered the targeting by the IRS? | ||
| Hootowl |
"What else would you expect from this disrespectful oaf?" Hey, give the guy a break. He didn't grow up in America, so he didn't know that's what you're supposed to do. He didn't know he was doing it wrong until he saw it on TV. | ||
| Aesquire |
I don't have a copy of the liar in chief's speech, but I did catch some of it, and he said something that needs to be widely disseminated... everyone should know it's now US policy. actually... I want no doubt. Here, direct form Pravda HQ. http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/09 /24/remarks-president-obama-address-united-nations -general-assembly Oh dear deity of your choice.... I hadn't realized how insane his speech was. how about... All of us must recognize that peace will be a powerful tool to defeat extremists throughout the region I can make a fortune selling whatever he, or his speechwriter's on. 5th graders are smarter than that. The danger for the world is that the United States, after a decade of war -- rightly concerned about issues back home, aware of the hostility that our engagement in the region has engendered throughout the Muslim world -- may disengage, creating a vacuum of leadership that no other nation is ready to fill. I believe such disengagement would be a mistake. I believe America must remain engaged for our own security. But I also believe the world is better for it. Some may disagree, but I believe America is exceptional -- in part because we have shown a willingness through the sacrifice of blood and treasure to stand up not only for our own narrow self-interests, but for the interests of all. Yet, you preached hate for Bush and did EXACTLY what you now say is bad. How many votes do we need to Impeach? Sorry, it needs a free Press. Oh, a quick count, "I" 40 times. "Freedom" 3 times. "win" 0. Well, darn it, I cannot find what I heard in this document. I did hear it, but to be truthful I must have the written word, or video to quote from... I'll be back. | ||
| Oldog |
Hey, give the guy a break. He didn't grow up in America, so he didn't know that's what you're supposed to do. He didn't know he was doing it wrong Sorry he has used up all of his breaks, you are right he did not grow up in America, I am far less worried about his disrespect for the people who defend this country than the mixed messages he sends the world and his intransigence with our military commanders, He is NERO trying to burn Rome. I am waiting patiently for the mid terms, the country will either continue on the road to ruin or they will bind him and his ilk, Perhaps we can get him and Biden out of the WH, Then start cleaning up the mess of the grand progressive Screw-up, and punish the traitors who have so royally screwed us... Perhaps better we can get the business of all the scandals cleared up as we remove and indite all of the criminals who were appointed by obama or who aided and abetted is subversion of our laws. waiting quietly and watching for now. I view obama and the progressives as Moslem sympathizers and traitors. These ba$t@rds work for us some have forgotten this..} | ||
| Court |
Well said. | ||
| Alfau |
Every country on earth has a flag and each one imagine theirs is worth dying for. How can that be right? Just so you know the real problem. Here it is. A huge problem: Inbreeding Nikolai Sennels is a Danish psychologist who has done extensive research into a little-known problem in the Muslim world: the disastrous results of Muslim inbreeding, brought about by the marriage of first cousins. This practice, which has been prohibited in the Judeo-Christian tradition since the days of Moses, was sanctioned by Muhammad and has been going on now for 50 generations (1,400 years) in the Muslim world. This practice of inbreeding will never go away in the Muslim world, since Muhammad is the ultimate example and authority on all matters, including marriage. The massive inbreeding in Muslim culture may well have done virtually irreversible damage to the Muslim gene pool, including extensive damage to its intelligence, sanity, and health. According to Sennels, close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred. InPakistan , the numbers approach 70%. Even in England , more than half of Pakistani immigrants are married to their first cousins, and in Denmark the number of inbred Pakistani immigrants is around 40%. The numbers are equally devastating in other important Muslim countries: 67% in Saudi Arabia , 64% in Jordan , and Kuwait , 63% in Sudan , 60% in Iraq , and 54% in the United Arab Emirates and Qatar . According to the BBC, this Pakistani, Muslim-inspired inbreeding is thought to explain the probability that a British Pakistani family is more than 13 times as likely to have children with recessive genetic disorders. While Pakistanis are responsible for three percent of the births in the UK, they account for 33% of children with genetic birth defects. The risks of what are called autosomal recessive disorders such as cystic fibrosis, spinal muscular atrophy is 18 times higher, and the risk of death due to malformations is 10 times higher. Other negative consequences of inbreeding include a 100 percent increase in the risk of stillbirths and a 50% increase in the possibility that a child will die during labor. Lowered intellectual capacity is another devastating consequence of Muslim marriage patterns. According to Sennels, research shows that children of consanguineous marriages lose 10-16 points off their IQ and that social abilities develop much slower in inbred babies. The risk of having an IQ lower than 70, the official demarcation for being classified as "retarded," increases by an astonishing 400 percent among children of cousin marriages. (Similar effects were seen in the Paranoiac dynasties in ancient Egypt and in the British royal family, where inbreeding was the norm for a significant period of time.) In Denmark, non-Western immigrants are more than 300 percent more likely to fail the intelligence test required for entrance into the Danish army. Sennels says, "The ability to enjoy and produce knowledge and abstract thinking is simply lower in the Islamic world." He points out that the Arab world translates just 330 books every year, about 20% of what Greece alone does. In the last 1,200 years of Islam, just 100,000 books have been translated into Arabic, about what Spain does in a single year. Seven out of 10 Turks have never even read a book.. Sennels points out the difficulties this creates for Muslims seeking to succeed in the West. "A lower IQ, together with a religion that denounces critical thinking, surely makes it harder for many Muslims to have success in our high-tech knowledge societies." Only nine Muslims have ever won the Nobel Prize, and five of those were for the "Peace Prize." According to Nature magazine, Muslim countries produce just 10 percent of the world average when it comes to scientific research measured by articles per million inhabitants. In Denmark, Sennels' native country, Muslim children are grossly over represented among children with special needs. One-third of the budget for Danish schools is consumed by special education, and anywhere from 51% to 70% of retarded children with physical handicaps in Copenhagen have an immigrant background. Learning ability is severely affected as well. Studies indicated that 64% of schoolchildren with Arabic parents are still illiterate after 10 years in the Danish school system. The immigrant dropout rate in Danish high schools is twice that of the native-born. Mental illness is also a product. The closer the blood relative, the higher the risk of schizophrenic illness. The increased risk of insanity may explain why more than 40% of patients in Denmark 's biggest ward for clinically insane criminals have an immigrant background. The U.S. is not immune. According to Sennels, "One study based on 300,000 Americans shows that the majority of Muslims in the USA have a lower income, are less educated, and have worse jobs than the population as a whole." Sennels concludes: There is no doubt that the wide spread tradition of first cousin marriages among Muslims has harmed the gene pool among Muslims. Because Muslims' religious beliefs prohibit marrying non-Muslims and thus prevents them from adding fresh genetic material to their population, the genetic damage done to their gene pool since their prophet allowed first cousin marriages 1,400 years ago are most likely massive. This has produced overwhelming direct and indirect human and societal consequences. Bottom line: Islam is not simply a benign and morally equivalent alternative to the Judeo-Christian tradition. As Sennels points out, the first and biggest victims of Islam are Muslims. Simple Judeo-Christian compassion for Muslims and a common-sense desire to protect Western civilization from the ravages of Islam dictate a vigorous opposition to the spread of this dark and dangerous religion. These stark realities must be taken into account. Let us hope the not so inbred West and the not so bright North Americans wake up before a blind naiveté about the reality of Islam destroys what remains of our Judeo-Christian culture and our domestic tranquillity that Muslims do not have. | ||
| Alfau |
Ironically the answer is to F_u_c_k them better. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I wonder how sound those stats are? It sounds fabricated. Got any citations to the original research? |
