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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2014 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Soaked the base gasket and cyl. in kerosene for two days - nada - the gasket just doesn't want to budge - any suggestions for removing the gasket and not marring the surface?
EZ
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Torquehd
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2014 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

razor blade. brake parts cleaner. 220 grit sand paper.

Edit: You can also use a sand/bead blaster, if you have small grain media and can adjust the pressure so you're not eating into the aluminum.

(Message edited by torquehd on September 20, 2014)
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2014 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I was working on windmill transmissions we cleaned the mating surfaces with lacquer thinner, razors, scotch brite pads, and elbow grease. Most of the time/effort was used with the scotch brite pads. Be very careful with the razor on aluminum.
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46champ
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2014 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Spray on gasket remover helps a little but it also takes off the paint on the cylinder. Nothing seems to be the cure all except elbow grease and razor blades. When I did mine I think it took a whole weekend. Beer helps.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2014 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bamboo kabob sticks can be helpful also, you can sharpen them into points and wedges (and resharpen many times) and go absolutey crazy with them in terms of force without worrying about hurting the aluminum.

But a razor blade (or razorblade sharp chisel used carefully) is probably what will be needed before you are done for the bulk of it.
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2014 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You'll probably get better control with a sharp chisel.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2014 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lacquer thinner or acetone perhaps?

The bamboo/wood scraper is a nice one too.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2014 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Replaced a leaky rocker box gasket ( still have the other gasket....it hasn't needed it yet )

Went whole hog and bought a snap-on gasket scraper.

Ended up with a razor blade and scotch brite pads.

Bamboo next time. Great idea.

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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2014 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh...yeah there is a technique thing....
instead of using the blade as a wedge, wiggle it back & forth so it's cutting the gasket free like a knife. Think slicing a roast not chopping a chicken.

It's easy to push too hard and slice the metal so be gentle as you dismember the gasket. Try for Zen and walk away when you get frustrated.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, September 22, 2014 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bamboo isn't magic, you will still want a razor sharp scraper of some kind. But it is nice when you are in an area where you are afraid the chisel will get into metal, or to convince yourself you really need the chisel. : ).
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Kenm123t
Posted on Monday, September 22, 2014 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guys practice Filetting fish when you can handle trout etc, The Clumsy I MEAN you Patric start on a Triggerfish its like skinning a car tire lol

VERY Sharp flat wood chisel and you can shave it it off just takes skill
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Bluzm2
Posted on Monday, September 22, 2014 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I second the chisel suggestion. I have a couple of wood chisels for just that purpose. Keep the super sharp and go slow. The edges last longer that a razor blade and are much easier to hold and control.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2014 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I keep one of those harbor freight diamond file plates out, and hone the wood chisel right before and several times during the scraping.
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2014 - 01:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Going a different route - will let you know tomorrow if it works - a bit hi tech - lol
EZ
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2014 - 07:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sharks with freakin' lasers?
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, September 26, 2014 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No - a 3M Roloc 120 grit - 5000rpm, a feather touch and gaskets gone - no abrasions just smooth metal, removes carbon well as well - head almost looks new again - lol - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lM7IgqMAiA
On to the tear down and rebuild of the other motor - thanks guys.
EZ
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Friday, September 26, 2014 - 04:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't get why the need for all this; eight days conversation into removing a gasket???

Just use a bloody razor blade, Stanley knife. Simple. 10 minutes top. Job done!


Rocket in England
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Torquehd
Posted on Friday, September 26, 2014 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Razorblades don't always work, rocket. There are better methods for a lot of those baked-on base gaskets. That's why the need for all this.
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Elsinore74
Posted on Friday, September 26, 2014 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for posting the youtube link, EZ.

Helpful to actually see the aluminum is unharmed on the part he's working on. Entertaining narration, too.
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Friday, September 26, 2014 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I never had a razorblade fail yet.

You are using Sheffield Steel Wilkinson Sword Blades surely? You won't get a closer shave


Rocket in England
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, September 26, 2014 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The tool depicted in the video doesn't leave the aluminum unharmed. It wears away the surface. If you block sand the part afterward, you can see the low spots it creates.
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, September 26, 2014 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tried razor blades - was not working. Use a feathering touch to only take away the gasket - I also used the 120 grit not the 80.
EZ
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2014 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am with Rocket on this, judicious use of a razor blade and methodical and patient work is required. M2nc and I just cleaned a set of base gaskets off of his Cyclone's jugs, The HD aly is SOFT minute scratches and nicks are seldom an issue with good gaskets, using an abrasive power any thing like this is asking for trouble

I hope that you don't have trouble with this ED, the cylinder head chamber is not an issue worst case is you have lowered you compression a tiny bit.
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Fast1075
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2014 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Getting old/hard/stuck gaskets off with a blade is an art. I use single edge razor blades. Time and patience. Once you shave enough off, and get the right angle, it magically cuts perfectly.

It IS a PITA, and time consuming.
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2014 - 04:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I'll be fine - looks smooth and level. That old gasket was not budging even with a razor blade or five - lol - that is why I had to go to plan B.
EZ
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2014 - 05:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Time and patience. Once you shave enough off, and get the right angle, it magically cuts perfectly.


That's how I do it.

It's all about the angle of the dangle ; )



Rocket in England
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