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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2014 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Russia wants it back my arse. They don't want it going west, manipulated by America, and NATO (U.S.) forces planted along the Russian border thus forming a westernised military iron curtain from the Balkans to Middle East.

And please do show this proof of Russia invading Ukraine when it's a matter of fact America's well involved and pulling the strings of all other nations under its wing. Do me a favour you blinkered idiot.

Rocket in England
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2014 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

....please do show this proof of Russia invading Ukraine....

and now he claims not to believe Vladimir Putin.

Who admitted to sending unmarked troops to Ukraine.

Which Racket will claim isn't Ukraine, since it's been conquered by Russia. ( or maybe he'll call that part of Ukraine a different name, so it doesn't count, nyah nyah. )

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/04/17/vladimir-p utin-admits-for-first-time-russian-troops-took-ove r-crimea-refuses-to-rule-out-intervention-in-donet sk/ ( in April )

I was all prepared to believe the EU is run by evil socialist dictators. That want to expand their power to the Russian border.

I agree the US is run by evil socialist dictators. That want to expand their power world wide.... ( except, naturally, the Former Soviet & current Chicom nations that sponsored them )

I can't buy that Russia, run by a KGB executive is completely blameless. And Innocent. And it's Bush's fault. And racist. And the Jew's Fault. According to Lord Haw Haw.
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2014 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From your own papers.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/u kraine/11035401/Russian-armoured-vehicles-and-mili tary-trucks-cross-border-into-Ukraine.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/14/russi an-military-vehicles-enter-ukraine-aid-convoy-stop s-short-border

These two papers claim their reporters witnessed this event.

I believe them over the former head of the KGB.
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2014 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You really believe Russia invaded Ukraine with just two trucks (as reported by RT News but not confirmed by location)? That's some real serious invasion right there.

As I've said from the start of this topic. If someone keeps poking a stick at a sleeping tiger, it's not going to be long before it wakes up and strikes back.

Russia have a right to defend Russian citizens, and protect its borders. Let's stop the bullshit here. It's EXACTLY what America would do/does.

Rocket in England
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2014 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Russia is protecting its border by invading Ukraine?
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2014 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and now he claims not to believe Vladimir Putin.

Who admitted to sending unmarked troops to Ukraine.


Assuming for a moment you're bright enough (unlikely I know) to see Crimea as a somewhat different situation than presented in the region of Ukraine outside of Crimea, this is the proof of Russia being in there so lacking.

You know this only too well, yet your best shot is to put Crimea up there as your proof, which in itself is an admittance you (nor anyone else) has no proof of Russia operating in Ukraine.

You do know how desperate this makes your argument look don't you?

Rocket in England
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2014 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Russia is protecting its border by invading Ukraine?

By invading, at best what you're referring to is a reported over the border sighting of some Russian military vehicles (two according to RT). Is this what you mean by INVADING?

Wow! Imagine if Russia REALLY did invade. That would make some serious headlines eh

Rocket in England
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2014 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Russia have a right to defend Russian citizens, and protect its borders. Let's stop the bullshit here. It's EXACTLY what America would do/does.

Are you even aware of what's going on over here? We have a US Marine in a Mexican prison for the last several months, while the entire southern border is a f*cking sieve.

With the other hand, we dismantle our own military while handing captured generals back to opposing armies in exchange for a single traitor.

Then we gave him a desk job.

First you say Russia didn't invade Ukraine, then when it's pointed out to you, the tune changes to "You really believe Russia invaded Ukraine with just two trucks (as reported by RT News but not confirmed by location)? That's some real serious invasion right there."

Which is it? Did they invade or not? Zero trucks or just a few trucks? How many are not in plain view of the local spin factory?
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/385347/cypru s-world-silent-victor-davis-hanson

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/385359/radic al-islam-monster-room-lee-habeeb-and-mike-leven

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/385276/wests -gaza-jonah-goldberg


Assuming for a moment you're bright enough.....

As predicted.

Russia invaded Ukraine.

They did so with unmarked troops in violation of law.

They lied about it. Then told everyone they didn't lie because it was obvious they were unmarked Russian troops and only useful idiots thought otherwise.

Besides, we renamed Ukraine to New Russia, years ago, so we didn't invade Ukraine, again, we're just protecting ourselves from NATO Imperialism.

There are more Russian troops in more of Ukraine today. They don't wear Russian uniforms until they win. Again.

I won't have to prove it, just wait awhile until the center of resistance moves a little further west.

Then, and I bet you an Amazon gift card, it will once again be "sure we had troops in Eastern Ukraine, that's old news" then "sure we had troops in Poland" "sure we had troops in Paris". "no one said we didn't have troops in Scotland" ( the bet is only for the first one. After Europe falls to the Empire you won't be able to send me gift cards )

How many Russian speakers in Yorkshire?
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How many Russian speakers in Yorkshire?

I'm sure there are some. They deserve to be protected, don't they?
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you even aware of what's going on over here? We have a US Marine in a Mexican prison for the last several months, while the entire southern border is a f*cking sieve.

Imagine if Russia decided to support half of an oligarch gangster ridden part nazi Mexico and install its own version of a kinda neutral but nevertheless Russian influenced NATO style force along that sieve of a border whilst the other half of Mexico swore allegiance to the U.S. What do you imagine America would do? Another Bay Of Pigs perhaps.......

I suppose the good news in such a scenario, America would at least claim Cancale for its historic ties and holidaying overweight Americans languishing about the place.


Rocket in England
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How many Russian speakers in Yorkshire?

More than 10,000 if you mean Russian people.

Including a few of my close friends who ride R1's and a 996 Duc. Work there arses off, live a life, and are no different than you or me.

Rocket in England
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You've described Cuba and Haiti......

The Bay of Pigs is one of the shameful things in US history. I believe it led to the fall of Vietnam when an increasingly selfish socialist Congress abandoned them to invasion and the mass murder to follow.

Like Obama and Libya....Egypt....Iraq.....Afghanistan. ....Poland....... NATO....... England....... Europe..... Japan..... ( his betrayal is still in progress ) America......Women ( paid less than men in the Obama White House....... and never invited to play golf. I can't decide if that's Obama's Islamic rearing or his contempt for breeders ( the gay Barry theory ) )

America figured out long ago we didn't want to conquer Mexico. After the Spanish French and British ripped it off and made the whole place bitter and properly angry at the Europeans.

Canada we leave alone for a buffer zone against the polar bears. There's a reason Al Gore has a bear fetish.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168289-commentator -evan-sayet-explains-liberal-perspective-islam-gaz a-pro-israel-rally/

So is 10,000 enough for Vladimir to bother to "free Yorkshire"?

No worries, he's got a small semi- continent to finish conquering yet. You'll have plenty of time to flee. I figure Australia will be able to hold out for years before China absorbs them. Don't expect asylum in the US under an Obama Regime. Hillary might let Brits in. Biden doesn't know where England is.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Talking to you is like clapping with one hand.

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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rocket, I don't make the mistake some idiots do... "Russians" are not the bad guy.

They've been screwed, oppressed, and murdered in the thousands...tens of thousands... Millions. Honestly, tens of Millions murdered in The Soviet Union alone. Chinese Communism has murdered hundreds of millions of people.

Murdered by the offspring of a Satan loving death cultist rich kid sociopath that collectively has murdered more people than have died in war since we started scratching records in clay.

More murdered than Cancer.

Russians know this cult, and it wasn't until the US convinced the Soviet Masters that we were going to make their incredible investment in Future Mass Murder held in the ICBM's aimed at Europe, England, the US, obsolete with technology... that it finally collapsed under it's own evil weight. ( and because it collapsed, we didn't even build the fleets of invisible bombers and anti-missile weapons, just a handful of working hardware. )

Now, it would have been nice if England, or France, or Belgium, decided to help Russia solve it's problems and kept it from becoming a kleptocracy run by ex-KGB agents who were given the State owned industries, unearned, by their friends. Oligarchs? Yes, former oppressors of their people, former mobsters, organized crime, that's the leadership of Russia today, and Europe could have prevented that, but it selfishly, stupidly did not.

The US sure didn't stop the long decline into crime that led to Vladimir Putin taking the "strong man" role and taking power he shows no sign of ever letting go of. The New Czar, with his secret police, and his willingness to murder rivals, jail protesters, and exploit ancient racial and tribal rivalries to keep and hold power.

Ukraine to the Cossacks.

Who's lands will he pay off the other ethnics with?
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

America figured out long ago we didn't want to conquer Mexico. After the Spanish French and British ripped it off and made the whole place bitter and properly angry at the Europeans.

But if America piped a LOT of oil through Mexico to supply all of South America. America had a strategic naval base on the Baja peninsula, 'rented' from Mexico. 85% of the Baja peninsula was inhabited by Americans.....

Imagine chaos amongst the population lead to the overthrowing of the elected government and Russia installed their puppets dancing to a tune adverse to America's interests. What do you imagine might then happen in such a Mexico where America is concerned?

I doubt America would show as much restraint as Russia has done over Ukraine / Crimea.




Rocket in England
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

85% of the Baja peninsula was inhabited by Americans.....

You need a new source of information. Or is it a crack pipe problem. I really don't know. What I do know is that the Baja peninsula is no where near 85% Americans.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tom, you missed the part where Racket is the Gene Rayburn of geopolitics.

"Mexico is so corrupt, that when the USA piped it's oil to South America, the Mexicans BLANK"

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Reindog
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo don't be dense. That was a what if.

IF the US had conquered Mexico a half century or more ago...and

IF we had deliberately murdered more than 14 million Mexicans in one operation of genocide and untold millions more during our occupation. And

IF we had deliberately settled "ethnic Americans" in Mexico as part of that ongoing master race program....and

IF we had also conquered central America and set up mine fields and machine gun towers to murder anyone who tried to escape our workers paradise. .....and

IF we had fallen on hard times and our Empire collapsed because a brave free and determined England had out worked us in both economy and science.... and

IF we had been ruled for a century by a cult that has as one of it's founding principals that lies are good if it advances the cult.....and

IF our current President had been raised in and publicly converted to that cult .... ( which is actually true, today )and

IF our glorious leader had the press as his sycophants (true) and was an agent of the K GB ( not proven and you will be punished if you spread that vicious rumor )
and

IF he wanted to restore the glory days of the dictatorship.....

THEN of course it would make sense for Obama to send unmarked troops into Mexico to take over the place and lie about it.

You know. Like Vladimir.
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You need a new source of information. Or is it a crack pipe problem. I really don't know. What I do know is that the Baja peninsula is no where near 85% Americans.

Sifo don't be dense. That was a what if.





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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You know. Like Vladimir.

(Your outstanding interpretation of) Russian history does not implicate Putin as the bad guy in Ukraine. AND THERE IS NO PROOF TO SUPPORT THIS DUMB THEORY OF YOURS.

On the other hand there exists lots of proof of America interfering and manipulating current affairs in Ukraine. This whilst Putin shows much restraint (for now) given the past history of Russia / Ukrai.


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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I suppose I owe Sifo an apology.

Please read the above as "Jane you ignorant slut".

Thank you.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My dumb theory is only....... IF .... restore the glory....

I'm open to it being wrong and I'm well aware that the current US regime are cultists who lie. Since many of them and the Presidents mentors Are people who miss the Glory Days of The Revolution.

Barack's political career begin in the home of a murdering terrorist communist anarchist who's only regret is he didn't kill more pigs.

I hope you don't hold that against real Americans who mostly didn't vote for Barry. And mostly think he's a putz.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let me be clear Sifo, about my respect for your opinions and experience.



I'm sure you will take this mild criticism in the spirit intended.
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Being open to your dumb theory being wrong DOES NOT justify you having this dumb theory. ESPECIALLY when it's a pretty much endemic theory sweeping your nations people, and a dumb theory pointed at your nations historical enemy. Read.........you're blaming Russia (dumb theory or no dumb theory).

The reason behind everything - - - - - COZ AMERICA IS INVOLVED - - - - - whoopie dooo dooo do now there's a surprise!


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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I understand you believe the propaganda of the most murderous thugs in history, and reject that they could possibly be wrong.

Hamas, The Former Soviet KGB agent, all seem to have unquestioned credibility to you no matter how many years, or centuries it has been their explicit policy to lie.

And of course, you profess ignorance of George Soros, who made a fortune trashing the Pound, and the Ruble, and has been rumored to be behind the unrest in Ukraine.

You may indeed be correct that a relative of the Vice President is making money in the most corrupt way off foreign policy decisions of his regime, and I'd be happy to Impeach and Imprison both, heck, all of them.

And I completely agree you can't trust ANY member of this Regime, not the raised in a cult President, the incompetent VP, or the treasonous slime Sec State.

You may even be right that it's all the fault of the US regime currently, and hopefully temporarily in power.

But since you believe and promote known lies and are dead freaking wrong on so much, why should anyone believe you?
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I understand you believe the propaganda of the most murderous thugs in history

Actually that's the British, of which I am one ; )


Hamas, The Former Soviet KGB agent, all seem to have unquestioned credibility to you

Did I say that?

Does your Jewish faith allow for an unbiased opinion, and let's be right here. By Hamas you mean Gazza / Palestine, and not JUST Hamas, all of whom you condemn when you put them in the firing line with such an excuse ; )


But since you believe and promote known lies

Please could you list the most significant lies at the very least, just so's I can be sure I'm promoting them....


Rocket in England
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So much for an invasion!

http://rt.com/news/181260-osce-ukraine-russia-arms /


Rocket in England
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