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     Aesquire |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/10916 086/The-scandal-of-fiddled-global-warming-data.htm l Of course, using Climate Con math, ( my 11:03 post ) we'll all have cooked by then. It's amazing how you can make a trend line appear by magic in any direction by picking your start & end dates. If we count from the 1930's we're in a cooling trend. If we count from 1000, it's really bad cooling, and if we pick from 1400, it's hysterical warming. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/07/19 /senator-barbara-boxers-own-experts-contradict-oba ma-on-global-warming/ When you lie all the time it's hard to keep the lie straight. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHb1EklPrPE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMd8RT2a_8U | ||
| Sifo |
It's amazing how you can make a trend line appear by magic in any direction by picking your start & end dates. Something that I point out often. Something that by shear coincidence works well for the global warming con artists. It just happens that the thermometer was invented during the Little Ice Age. As a result the modern instrument record happened to start during the Little Ice Age. It also just happens that the satellite record starts at a time when the fear was of going into the next ice age. No conspiracy theory about any of that, just the way it worked out. Is it any wonder though that when you start record keeping at a time of known extreme that you get a trend line away from that extreme when things return to normal? Al Gore would have us think that this is a sign of catastrophe. I think it's a sign of needing to understand the data you are looking at. | ||
| Kenm123t |
That's the Problem Blake Mercury and or Spirit type thermometers need to Exercised transported properly. Thermocouple types need regular calibration and stable power supplies I see what I deal with the Faa dark ages systems when we fly into smaller airports. The data had been distorted to the point do we really even have actual original data to work from. The agenda minded folks destroyed the trust in NOAA. | ||
| Aesquire |
Chili.......methane.....meat evil. ( never mind that it's the beans..... it's the narrative. Facts aren't real. Power is. ) | ||
| Aesquire |
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/07/02/anta rctic-sea-ice-hits-second-all-time-record-in-a-wee k/ Once more Global Warming causes ice. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/data-tampering- at-ushcngiss/ http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/spectacularly-p oor-climate-science-at-nasa/ Since the Brown Shirts threaten doctors with jail Today if they talk about the growing epidemic, just imagine what punishment you will get if you dispute the Pravda tomorrow. Does Montag have a favorite book? | ||
| Aesquire |
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/07/03/look ing-back-on-some-ucs-lies-from-2007/ http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/07/03/anot her-proxy-showing-that-ushcn-adjustments-are-bogus / This leaves only two realistic possibilities. 1.The freezing point of water has changed since 1967 2.US winters are getting colder, and the NCDC adjustments are complete garbage. Naturally all such reports must be suppressed, it's the will of Landru, The Deniers are Not Of The Body. | ||
| Reindog |
From Forbes magazine: Government Data Show U.S. in Decade-Long Cooling excerpt: The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s most accurate, up-to-date temperature data confirm the United States has been cooling for at least the past decade. The NOAA temperature data are driving a stake through the heart of alarmists claiming accelerating global warming. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2014/06/25 /government-data-show-u-s-in-decade-long-cooling/ | ||
| Aesquire |
http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/californias-h ydromania/?singlepage=true California’s Hydromania California designed and started a truly massive water storage/pipeline/aqueduct system to supply it's growing needs. Then stopped building it after the richest people got their water, and now could care less about everyone else. | ||
| Alchemy |
"California’s Hydromania" I lived in CA 35 years ago and I can easily see why water is an issue. I lived in SF where water was drought restricted. I worked 2 days a week in LA where there were no water restrictions. Pools were full and the grass was being watered non-stop. It there had been a referendum to separate California into 2 states it would have gotten a lot of support in northern California. Any farmer can tell you that all the talk of fertile soil and easy farming is missing the most important point which is water. You can do a lot of things to make farming possible in difficult conditions but water is the most vital need. Particularly small farmers know a lot about this even though they don't all agree. Water doesn't come out of a magic pipe built by the Gov't. It didn't get down to the water table by some big business project. All of it comes from the sky. Where it goes from there we humans have a small influence but only a small influence in the grand scheme. It is interesting to watch what smaller family farms are doing. The big guys are ruled by next quarter's performance. But California is a great state to ride a motorcycle, very little rain, very few potholes and very few bugs. | ||
| Pwnzor |
very few potholes Umm.... WHAT??? | ||
| Alchemy |
Not that kind of potholes...<g> I mean the kind in the frost-heaved asphalt. Not sayin they don't exist but ... | ||
| Pwnzor |
My opinion, having done a lot of driving around various parts of the country, California's roads are crap. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&load=9954&mpid=105 Islands of plastic....... "Turns out it's one doobie smoking loser......." Yet another example of how evil men lie to you to make money and steal power. Power over your life. Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. Robert A. Heinlein It's really that simple. The real victim in all this is the credibility of science. When politicians want to make laws that will affect millions of people, it had better be on the basis of facts, not a religion of lies. | ||
| Kenm123t |
California has a POTHEAD problem ! | ||
| Sifo |
Off by 14,000%? Hey, it was just an estimate.  | ||
| Aesquire |
I heard the same horror stories, believed them, and, as usual when I believe a Greenie, was wrong. Here I was ready to suggest we spend tax dollars to test ships to scoop up the plastic and make it into fuel. I also thought the islands of plastic were a perfect hiding place for ballistic missile subs. Wrong. | ||
| Sifo |
Modern science has some serious problems. When I saw this headline my first thought was that it was related to climate science. Turns out other areas of science is pretty messed up right now too. Science Journal Pulls 60 Papers in Peer-Review Fraud Actually I think that the climate scientists are too tightly knit to have this sort of self policing ever happen anytime in the near future. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/greenpolitics/109 65887/People-who-claim-to-worry-about-climate-chan ge-use-more-electricity.html The findings will strengthen the case of those who argue that more coercive methods are needed if people’s energy consumption is to be reduced. Peter Lilley, a Conservative member of the Commons Energy and Climate Change committee, said: “The survey exposes the hypocrisy of many who claim to be ‘green’: the greater the concern people express about global warming the less they do to reduce their energy usage.” Coercive methods? You will turn down your thermostat or we will shoot your dog!?? | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/the-borde r-crisis/ The section on Missile defense in very interesting. Pournelle was instrumental in SDI. Which, despite it's detractors, works netter than expected... until it's scrapped for political purposes. I often wonder if politicians know math, but they have to, to collect campaign donations.... Simply, if the enemy has a thousand missiles you need a lot more anti-missiles to have a chance of stopping most of them. Today we have a handful of anti-missiles and they are not positioned to stop threats from most of the bad guys. Tomorrow we probably wont have ANY anti-missiles, and the enemy will be in full production. Anti-missiles are condemned as disruptive to the status quo. Which is true. ( but what if the status quo sucks? ) Some claim that if you develop anti-missiles that you them would use your immunity to attack the enemy. Which is also true, if you are evil. ( many people have a severe case of mirroring ) | ||
| Sifo |
NASA: Humans Will Prove ‘We Are Not Alone In The Universe’ Within 20 Years Ummmm... Unless we are alone. Pretty poor "science" claiming something will be proved that at this point has zero proof what so ever. Of course I'm not saying we are alone, or that it wont be proven that we aren't alone. I'm simply pointing out that NASA, which was once considered a premier scientific institution in the US, is not doing good science any more. They have become an institution of making Muslims feel good, pushing the religion of global warming or what ever label they want to use today, and not making a ridiculous claim about what will be proven in the next 20 years. Does this mean that if we haven't proven that life exists elsewhere by 2034 that it's proven that we are alone?  | ||
| Aesquire |
NASA used to be an awesome place. ( still does some great work, you just have to be in a tech field to know about it ) Then it was a jobs program for engineers and a poorly run trucking company. Then they gave their trucks away to museums, before building any new ones. Now they are, as you say, supposed to make Muslims proud of their greatness in science, a job better done by a museum that covers medieval Europe and Africa. Because the 14th century is when the Mullahs decided folk were too decadent with the new fangled technology and dragged the culture back to the grand days of the 8th century. Where it remains to this day. Also their prime goal of securing funding by lying about the weather. In response to your query... No, not finding a life filled planet with "current telescope technology will not prove we are alone. It will show that using old tech to look at a multigalaxy universe that may be expanding faster than anything we've made so far and can only see a microscopic fraction into through clouds of dust and gas has reached its limits and we need bigger telescopes. Like thousands of miles across in a distributed array. Which is, in fact, under development. Using telescopes all over the planet to simulate a huge one. A process that will work much better once we get the 50 meter dish built on the far side of the Moon, and the much larger ones in solar orbit. Of course there's no budget for either of those since NASA has to keep busy changing the temperature measurements of today and the past.... to get the Climate cash. I believe that the odds are very good for intelligent life in outer space. Not so good here, though. (Message edited by aesquire on July 15, 2014) | ||
| Sifo |
Think there may be someone on a distant planet listening in on our TV and radio broadcasts wondering to itself... "I wonder if we will ever find intelligent life elsewhere in the universe"? | ||
| Aesquire |
I hope they like "I Love Lucy". Skipping over the fact that someone 100 light years away has only received radio, and someone 72 light years away is watching black and white.... ( distance equals how old the shows you get. ) Notice that anyone on Planet Q who had been eagerly awaiting the new season of "Warehouse 13" or season 9 of "American Idol" got screwed. The no doubt carefully created hardware to receive TV signals became obsolete in June 2009 Earth time. That's when we went to digital broadcast and encrypted signals. My old tv in the bedroom cannot get today's tv shows. ( which is why it's hooked to a VCR ( VHS ) and a DVD player for movie watching ) I'm sure that beings clever enough to figure out the weird signal from Earth since 1928 ( first commercial broadcasts ) was video, and come up with a machine to show, and kept updating their hardware as the signal changed, can also figure out digital cable. I bet they are royally pissed at us though. | ||
| Aesquire |
The above factoids form my basis for not despairing that SETI doesn't get alien "I Love Lucy". Easy to receive signals on wide portions of the spectrum are a very short lived phenomena for a culture that has advances in science. AM radio is a good example. Soon to be completely obsolete, a signal that is spread across a smear of frequencies and uses amplitude modulation is both noisy and wasteful. When you want to give everyone on the planet their own radio transmitter/reciever you face a challenge. There is simply not enough spectrum for everyone to talk at once. So we use frequency hopping, digital encryption, and redundant signal distribution to cope, and the system still crashes when a tiny fraction of everyone in NYC freaks at a low flying plane. Just remember. Hedy Lamarr was a genius. and hot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedy_Lamarr | ||
| Zane |
That's Hedley!!! | ||
| Aesquire |
Many people have that problem. Hedy Lamarr  Hedly Lamarr  The First adorns Bomber noses. The Second does not. ( actually just an excuse to post such brilliant people ) | ||
| Zane |
Yeah. She sure was a looker in her day. Harvey never was...lol | ||
| Sifo |
So my house roof is in terrible shape. It's kind of odd because it was put on only a couple of years before we moved in in 2004. So it's about 12 years old. We have some mature trees that provide shade to the roof too, yet the shingles are warped, lifting and loosing the top coating of pebbles or whatever it is at an alarming rate. Why am I posting this here? We have talked to two contractors who have told the exact same thing. These are "organic" shingles that were sold as a "green" alternative to asphalt shingles. There were class action lawsuits over these shingles, but the final settlements did little but put most of the manufacturers out of business. Both said they were the worst possible shingle that could have been installed. One more example of green science falling flat on it's face and costing the little guy in the end. Go green! | ||
| Hootowl |
"There were class action lawsuits over these shingles, but the final settlements did little but put most of the manufacturers out of business" Not quite. The lawyers made a boat load of cash. |
