I love this thread . . . . no matter how much the idiots supporters rattle their dentures . . . it seems that what they say and the facts are in nearly constant conflict.
I wander what type of folks fall for this load of crap . . .
The message I’d send re: MH 17 is no one kills Americans without consequences. How ’bout you, Mr. President? Allen B. West ~ July 17, 2014
This morning I awoke to a quiet house. Angela and Aubrey are in San Antonio visiting Angela’s parents. Austen is at Southeastern University in Lakeland Florida for Christ in Youth (CIY) camp. I did my normal morning PT routine: 4 mile run, pushups, crunches, and hit the pool. It seemed to be just another day and I worked on my presentation for the Western Conservative Summit this weekend in Denver. Then all of a sudden at approximately 11am, the day took a turn — for the worse.
I heard the news about the Malaysian Airlines flight 17 crash and immediately the ol’ commander instincts kicked in. I began to piece together all the recent occurrences I’ve been following through foreign policy, national security, and open intelligence sites, plus current reports and updates on news.
Here is my assessment.
Any thoughts about the Ukrainian government being culpable in the shoot down of MH 17 make no sense. The flight had pretty much transited across Ukraine. That means it had checked into Ukrainian airspace, had been cleared, and was being tracked along the route.
Furthermore, what would Ukraine have to gain if they launched a missile against a civilian aircraft? With all the satellite traffic looking in that area it could be easily determined the launch point and trajectory of a surface to air missile. The last thing Ukraine would want is to lose the moral high ground against Russia and its invasion of their sovereign state. Furthermore, there has been no missile launch activity by the Ukraine government. This is a non-starter.
The other possibility would be an onboard terrorist attack, bomb within the cargo hold or some type of personal explosive device. From the photos flooding the news and reports that doesn’t seem feasible either, because there was no high level explosion and fireball. It appears the aircraft was disabled and the resulting fate was a hard crash landing and a fire ensuring from that.
Further, there are accounts of bodies somewhat intact and even still belted in to their seats. Finally, with such a tragic globally witnessed event, there has been no terrorist organization claiming responsibility – I can tell you from experience after our family traveled to Amsterdam last summer that security there has certainly tightened since the incident of the “underwear bomber.” Terror attack is a non-starter.
The Russian separatists have been firing on Ukrainian military aircraft for quite sometime. Their most successful shoot down of a Ukrainian military transport aircraft resulted in 49 deaths.
Just this past week they shot down another transport aircraft as well as “painted” (meaning radar engaged) two Ukrainian Su-25 jet fighters. A report by Jennifer Griffith of Fox News confirmed that as of 29 June the separatists did capture a Ukraine military installation where the SAM (Surface to Air Missile) system, SA-11 or SA-17 was stationed.
And U.S. military intelligence has confirmed it was a surface to air missile system that struck the MH 17, with the location of the firing reduced to just east, or just west of the Ukraine-Russian border. We also know that two Russian separatist leaders today claimed they shot down an Antonov-26 transport plane — those Facebook posts have been deleted.
We all know Russia has massed forces along the border and is supplying the separatists with weapons support, and potentially training on key weapons systems. These separatists have brought down three Ukrainian planes in the past four days.
Whether it was separatists or Russia’s military itself who committed this heinous act is of no consequence. Reports are that the manifest has 23 American passport owners.
The separatists have cordoned off the crash site and are not allowing the government of Ukraine access to the site. One can only surmise that the site is being contaminated and evidence is being disturbed. The flight data and voice recorders, black boxes, will not be turned over to Kiev but rather to Moscow — so we shall never be able to properly investigate and know the truth. What we can do is piece together the intelligence.
So, what happens now? We should demand access to the crash site immediately. As a matter of fact we should have had a team in the air within an hour after the incident. We should demand the black boxes be turned over to either Ukraine, The Netherlands, United States, or Malaysia, now.
Vladimir Putin is a former KGB colonel and all he understands is committed resolve and strength — not “red lines.” Standing up to a dictator and a tyrant is not being hawkish, it is about being a leader and conveying a message that “no one kills Americans without consequences.”
This isn’t business as usual and time to run off to fundraisers. The optics do not look good. Putin has already put out his propaganda message that Ukraine was trying to shoot down his aircraft — a lie — but for low to no information Russians, it serves as a nationalistic rallying cry.
I am now watching a full-out ground assault by the Israeli Defense force into Gaza. Prime Minister Netanyahu is showing there is only one way to contend with those who want you dead. I fully support Israel’s actions.
The day started one way, and there is certainly no tranquility in the global community — let alone the mounting crisis we have here in America with our border, illegal immigration infiltration, a failing economy, and various governmental scandals. We must not fall prey to Obama-Attention Deficit Disorder (O-ADD).
The question we must ponder is simply, “how does it all end?” Do we have the resolve?
Nice Webley in that slide deck. Complete with the semi-rimmed .38 S&W cartridge.
A hollow base .38 special cast wadcutter works decently, which is about as well as a Webley could ever work anyway. It's about .002 too small a diameter, but the hollow base expands nicely. And that was the normal edition, not the tanker edition. The tanker addition removed the hammer and made it double action only, so the hammer wouldn't get caught clambering in or out of a tank some German had just shot out from underneath you.
It has been so long since we have heard his wonderful voice. Let this inspire you this morning and contrast his message with the dividing words of the Wizard of Oz who is our current leader in name only.
It is time for America to come home. We are the Greatest nation in the history of nations. Don't let the petty tyrants make you believe otherwise.
Have to admit you are right. Hard to find better credentials in any network.
Kathleen Troia "K.T." McFarland is a Fox News National Security Analyst and host of FoxNews.com's "DefCon 3." She served in national security posts in the Nixon, Ford and Reagan administrations. She was an aide to Dr. Henry Kissinger at the White House, and in 1984 Ms. McFarland wrote Secretary of Defense Weinberger's groundbreaking "Principles of War " speech. She received the Defense Department's highest civilian award for her work in the Reagan administration.
I'd have to check, but I think he at one time gave the Seminar caller lie that he didn't vote for Obama. ( and he's listened to the show for years is the next line for talk show callers )
I could be wrong.
"Fred" of course never can be, that's why he changes the subject when someone points out his comments are not true. Or answer questions that might demonstrate a less than perfect understanding of things. ( because, he can never be wrong )
The Lightons and the Reiners went to see D'Souza's "America: Imagine a World Without Her". JoeBob sez, "Check it out". The film takes an interesting structure in that it initially spells out five indictments of the EVIL that is America. This is the view that the Left is cramming down our throats in colleges: stole the lands from the Indians, stole the lands from Mexico, allowed Slavery, steals the worlds resources through Imperialism, and steals from Americans through the unimaginable horror called Capitalism. D'Souza then systematically debunks these charges. Obama did not create the despotism that he so eagerly longs to achieve. It is the determined struggle of the Left that created Obama. I had never seen Obama's face on the big screen in HD where he lies to our faces. Quite scary but the audience laughed.
Bono from U2 sums it all up in the end about the greatness of OUR country.
Go see the movie. You will leave with a new love of the United States of America as seen through the eyes of someone who chose to be an American rather than the laziness of people born here who scoff at or are simply incapable of understanding the blessings that have been bestowed upon us. We truly are a Great Nation.
