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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2014 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I see the pResident wants to give $500 million (isn't that half a trillion!) to train and equip the Syrian rebels! Isn't it Syrian rebels that are marching through Iraq leaving a trail of blood as they go? Is this a bad joke?

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-seeks-500-million-cong ress-help-moderate-syrian-193135415.html
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Blake
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2014 - 02:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A congressman doing the job the news media refuses to do.

Excellent.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2014 - 05:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Half a Billion, but in Washington, that is rounding error. The rebels that get the dough will be "appropriated vetted." (Side note: even CNN puts that in quotes to show their skepticism on the reality of that.)

Does anyone trust the Obama Regime to effectively do that? Do we have CIA agents who actually know who is who in that zoo?
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Court
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2014 - 05:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Under Hillary Clinton's watch the State Department just LOST $6,000,000,000.00

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/04/6-bil-va nishes-from-state-dept-under-hillary-clinton/
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2014 - 07:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Half a Billion, but in Washington, that is rounding error.

Thanks for the correction. I posted that after a VERY long day on the road fighting with a bike that doesn't want to start while hot. Hoping I can nurse it home today.
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2014 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2014 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/epa-victo ry-or-defeat-history-and-policy-in-iraq/

Letter to Jerry.
"Iraq

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/iraq/articles/2014 0624.aspx

As clear and concise timeline and evaluation of the ISIS and Iraq as I have seen; and as accurate as known.

David Couvillon

Colonel, U.S. Marine Corps Reserve, Retired.; Former Governor of Wasit Province, Iraq; Righter of Wrongs; Wrong most of the time; Distinguished Expert, TV remote control; Chef de Hot Dog Excellance; Avoider of Yard Work"

Response.

Hot Dog Excellance; Avoider of Yard Work

For those interested in this situation this is just what Colonel Couvillon says it is: but do understand that ‘concise’ is a relative word. This would not have been considered lengthy when I was in graduate school, but in these days of the Internet and half page summaries of centuries and millennia, it is long enough indeed.

An example is this summary of the present dilemma facing the corrupt and semi-competent Iraqi regime:



There have been growing calls in Iraq for the government to build the kind of oil-fueled welfare state that exists next door in Saudi Arabia. But Iraq has more people and pumps less oil than Saudi Arabia, so there is more incentive for Iraqis to take any job and hustle in a way that Saudis have not had to for generations. But that’s not enough. Iraq has a more effective education system than Saudi Arabia but Iraqis with skills tend to flee the country because of the corruption and high crime rate. Not enough educated Iraqis, who occupy most of the management jobs, are willing or able to address the damage done by rampant corruption. Too many people are willing to gut an essential logistical or maintenance task in order to steal some money meant to get important things (like national defense) done. This is especially true in the government bureaucracies, and that includes the military. Some Iraqis understand how this works and want it changed but the officials in power are more interested in stealing. There’s a popular realization that the corruption is a key problem but so far there have not been enough senior government leaders willing to risk assassination and personal financial loss to move decisively against the problem. This corruption has a direct impact on the growing of Islamic terrorist violence because the stealing cripples the security forces by leaving the soldiers and police unpaid and unsupplied. If the Shia do not get organized they will see the better organized (even when it comes to corruption) Sunni minority once again be in control and the Shia will again be poor and living in fear of Sunni retribution for real or imagined misbehavior.

The report continues:


The U.S. has told the Iraqi leaders that if they do not take effective action to deal with the Sunni Islamic terrorists the U.S. will do so and that will be at the expense of the Iraqi politicians who created the current mess. One unpleasant side effect of all this is that the U.S. is now under pressure to attack ISIL in Syria as well. While this could be construed as aiding the Assad government it isn’t because ISIL has been openly fighting other rebel groups in Syria since January. Everyone hates ISIL.

This places more belief in the determination of the current President than I have: in my judgment President Obama wants out of Iraq, and since whatever he does will leave behind a mess that can be blamed on President Bush, there is no need for the US to carry out any real attempt to reform Iraq. Any actual reform is unlikely to succeed, there is a good chance that replacing Maliki will bring up someone worse, and that can be blamed on President Obama, not President Bush.

ISIL has taken Mosul, but so far has not strictly enforced Sharia in this key city, but there will be considerable pressure from the ISIS leadership to do so. Mosul is of crucial importance to the viability of any Sunni state in Mesopotamia. ISIS control of Mosul is not certain: the Kurds want the city and its oil refineries, and have a reasonable claim to it; but then there are Arab non-ISIS Sunni who have an even older claim to the city and its oil. It is possible that the non-Arab Kurds, nominally Sunni (“Compared to infidels, Kurds are Moslem”), can come to some compromise division of the oil revenues of the city, but that would require agreements entered from reason and not passion: something not very common in the area.

One must never forget that Jordan has a high stake in the outcome of these civil wars. In 1958 when Faisal II (Hashemite cousin of Hussein of Jordan) was still King of Iraq, there was a short lived attempt to federate the two monarchies as the United Arab Kingdom; this in answer to Nasser’s short lived federation of Egypt and Syria as the United Arab Republic. The Hashemites were the legitimate Protectors of Mecca from classical times down to the British conquest of the area in World War I. The British eventually were influential in giving the Arabian peninsula as a partly united area to Ibn Saud, displacing the Hashemites from their position of Sharif of Mecca that stemmed from the times of the Prophet. The Hashemites were compensated with the Kingdoms of Jordan and Iraq. There are clan and family ties between members of the Sunni ruling class in Jordan and their counterparts in Iraq.

In the time of Richard Lionheart the Moslem world was divided into factions and engaged in civil wars to the benefit of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem. The Crusader Kingdom with its outlying fortresses looked to be stable. Then Saladin the Kurd united the Kurds, and with the aid of his (Aryan, no Arab) Kurds united the warring Arab factions against the invaders. Jerusalem was retaken by the Arabs. Of course European intervention in the Middle East, and particularly into Mesopotamia, was much more difficult in those times; but it remains expensive. Our intervention into Iraq might have turned a profit had the goal been conquest and levying tribute in the form of oil on Baghdad; but we had more noble ambitions.

I quoted this before the Bush I invasion, as well as after 9/11 :


John Quincy Adams on American Policy:

Whenever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.

She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom.

Fourth of July, 1821

If we intend to abandon this principle it is important that we understand the consequences, and also the requirements. It will not be cheap – and it will require that we learn the principles of rule without the consent of the governed. That has historically been a skill that Republics have regretted allowing their Legions to learn.
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Fb1
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

President Obama Claims Benghazi A “Phony Scandal”

President Obama charged that his Republican opponents had “nothing to offer except cynicism and fear and frustration” during a fundraiser Thursday in Minnesota.

The fundraiser capped off a day Obama spent with Rebekah Erler, a working mother who wrote the president to detail her financial struggle.

“It moved me,” Obama said of the letter, adding that he only went into politics to help people like her.

Obama said he remembered what it felt like to be struggling to figure out “how you lead a good life and raise your kids, not looking to get wildly wealthy… trying to make ends meet.”

“That’s what we should be talking about every day in Washington,” he said. “We talk about everything else. .. We talk about phony scandals. We talk about Benghazi. and we talk about polls and we talk about the tea party and we talk about the latest controversy… We don’t talk about her.”

Source, more: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/06/27/pre sident-obama-claims-benghazi-a-phoney-scandal/#mor e-84409



"Her" would be:

quote:

Rebekah...is a Democratic prop...not your average midwestern struggling mom just trying to get by.

A political science grad from the University of Washington, Rebekah has bounced around the west coast (San Fran, Seattle, etc.) where she was very active in politics and on the staff of Washington Senator Patty Murray’s campaign – considered one of the most liberal Senators.

About 4-5 years ago she moved to Minnesota where she remained active in politics.

Based on information on Zillow.com, she bought her home less than eight months ago for $200,000. The mortgage she complains of appears to be $194k…odd, as unless a government downpayment grant was given, she only had 3% equity in the home when most of us were required to put in 20%. People really shouldn’t be buying homes if they have no equity or reserves to deal with problems that are bound to occur (isn’t that how we had our last real estate bubble?). Regardless, her payments are probably about $1,300 a month…not bad considering it would be hard to rent a family home for that amount.

I just find it odd that she would be sending Obama letters less than six months after she purchased the property complaining about her mortgage, etc…..unless….she was a prop and the letter was never written. Which, she had the connections within the party to be utilized as such.

Source, more: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/06/27/pre sident-obama-claims-benghazi-a-phoney-scandal/#mor e-84409



So, poor, poor Rebekah Erler is a Democrat agent, still active in liberal politics, and was a staffer for Senator Patty Murray, who, politically, is way out there.

Photo op, Mr. pResident. You're lying about why you flew out there, just like you lie about everything else. All part of the plan.

How do you frikkin' sleep at night?!? BTW: Did you manage to get in any golf while you were out there? Also, any estimates on how many hundreds of thousands - millions? - of taxpayer dollars this photo op cost us? And by "us," I don't me YOU - I mean US.

Mr. pResident (and all the other progdemlibs who've ever posted on this thread): Do you celebrate Independence Day? If so, why?

"We" (not YOU) celebrate Independence Day to honor our Founders and their courage to finally say, under penalty of death, to a tyrant, "Enough is enough."

Amazing men, them, and this is (still) an amazing country. I will fight to my last breath to prevent YOU from changing us from a Constitutional Republic into whatever it is that Dear Leader and YOU are trying to change us into.
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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, Ferris.

Obama is exposed as feckless, mendacious and either unaware of, or in contempt of, the Constitution of the United States of America. His supporters are drifting away daily as there is NO logical way to continue supporting this person who has been given the blessings of America and has shown nothing but scorn for these gifts. His entire modus operendi is to divide and conquer where Machiavelli and Alinsky would be proud of him.
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Fb1
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Obama is exposed as feckless, mendacious and either unaware of, or in contempt of, the Constitution of the United States of America.

It all makes sense, if one digs just the tiniest little bit, into the history (what we actually know of it, anyway) of this man.

He's not a true American, in any sense of the word. It's very, very likely he wasn't even born in America - I mean, the only thing we have to go on in this regard is his word, which is worth absolutely NOTHING.

He has contempt for our country, specifically how we were founded, and the bedrock that our Founding Fathers laid down, via their sacred honor and their lives, for future generations.

0bama is NOT in charge of his destiny (he's not particularly bright, despite his assurances to the contrary); their are other people pulling his strings.

But, he's the Traitor-in-Chief, and is willfully destroying, brick by brick, the foundation of our country, aided and abetted by fellow traitors, be they politicians, ordinary "citizens" (in quotes for obvious reasons), and, perhaps worst of all, the most corrupt media imaginable.

Independence Day - think he and his family celebrate it? Yeah, they probably do, in honor of the time when they can abolish this holiday and replace it with something more befitting a tyrant-based government.

Cheers, Reindog.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did any one see the little girl caught eating a doughnut? She blamed it on her dad who wasn't even there.

Sad to realize our President has the ethical values of a 3 year old. The cute worn off that fool along time ago
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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The MSM is a huge problem in the deconstruction of the United States of America.

Think the MSM would have been asleep if George the W had done what Obama is doing? Think the MSM dozed through Watergate and the illegality of the Nixon Administration (although Obama's crimes are a magnitude greater than Nixon's)? Think and think again, my friends.

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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rein do you have one for Kosher interns lolol
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

“This is a so-called congressional investigation with no pretense of objectivity or bipartisanship,” Taylor said. “Critics of Ms. Lerner and the IRS seize indiscriminately on small pieces of fact to claim they prove scandal.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/lois-lerner- irs-scandal-108399.html#ixzz35zBU0dUY


Those small pieces of fact include that she's a liar. That her boss is a liar, that his boss is a liar, and not since Tricky Dick Nixon's IRS screwed over Dick Cavett has the agency been so blatant is it's use as a political weapon.

There is not a smidgen of doubt that the D party used the IRS to get their enemies. To suppress voter education, and give illegal information on their enemies to the press and themselves.

This puts the entire 2012 election in doubt. Not that even knowing for certain that Obama's re-election was not legit changes his position as worst US President.

So they lied to you. And lie to you today.

After all, at this point, what difference does it make?
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)























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Buellinmke
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 01:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh crap haven't been around in a while! Didn't know we were having fun with political stuff! Lol president zero such a fun time with you leaders of smart people!


republican


tea party


christians


(Message edited by buellinmke on June 29, 2014)
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-not-sit-idly-jihadist s-press-iraq-assault-133213933.html

http://news.yahoo.com/iraq-forces-fight-militant-h eld-tikrit-162611976.html

Fudge. Putin is now going to take Iraq. Gee thanks Obama.

Bush, the guy depicted as Hitler in the photoshop above, freed 50 million people from tyranny.

Obama, the guy depicted above as an exploiter of children ( correctly ) is giving them back to AQ/ISIS/Taliban.

So Bush frees you from slavery, and Obama sells you into it.

You'd think Bush was of the Party Of Lincoln, and Obama the Party of The Klan.

Actually, that's accurate too.
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And a Jesus-Hitler? Sure, that makes perfect sense. Jesus was well known for mass murder.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh yeah, Jesus's oppression of the Romans is well known, as is Stalin's support for religious freedom, Mao's love of Democracy, and don't ever forget, Barack Obama's reputation for honesty and modesty.

Of course in that world The View is the source of all news and Michael Bay's cinematic style rivals Kubrick for clarity and transparency.

Also Harley Davidson's are know worldwide for their quality of build, awesome handling, and light weight.


( this is the world where we took the Blue pill, right? )
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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DId Foolish Fredrica shape shift again or the demons just rotate among the lefties
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

No, Mike just got infected with Godwin's law.

Pity he decided to deliberately lose any argument he might have had, I liked the Cheney photoshop except for the Swastika.

It's a darn good warning.

Don't cheer "your guy" when he takes more power than he should, since it's inevitable that the "other guy" will wield that power with less restraint, and less concern for you than your guy.

For example Obama making the temporary "Patriot Act" permanent and exploiting it even worse than Cheney ever did.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We knew that was coming leftys never give up anything
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sure, the ratchet principle. The First Rule Of Acquisition, politics style. "once you take their rights you never give them back"

But let's say in a horrible dystopian future Jeb Bush wins the Presidency when Hillary snaps during a debate, crushes Joe Biden's skull, then tears her own face off revealing the Terminator within. ( and she'd probably win BIGGER if that happened ) Would not it be easy to convince Jeb that he HAD to use the dictatorial powers of The O to fix the problems The O created?

Slippery slope. You know what road is paved with good intentions.

Now, I could be being a bit cynical here. I figure if you want to be President bad enough to have a shot at the job, you've been in politics long enough to be corrupted.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now that you mention it Obama has Ferengi attitudes and Ears OMG and valarie jarret. Thank god he is a perverse one and has Michelle clothed!
That expalains a lot
lolol
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pity he decided to deliberately lose any argument he might have had, I liked the Cheney photoshop except for the Swastika.

It's a darn good warning.

Don't cheer "your guy" when he takes more power than he should, since it's inevitable that the "other guy" will wield that power with less restraint, and less concern for you than your guy.


I will admit that the Cheney one is the closest to having any sort of real message behind it. It would be much better with a real Cheney quote though. Of course the argument for the Patriot act was much more complex than that, so it doesn't really fit on a bumper sticker. It's a real shame that it's so easy to make a temporary law permanent. Same thing with our income tax. I think that may still be under temporary status though. I'm really not sure.

The Patriot Act was an example of we have to do "something". Changes were needed too. Typical of big government. It never seems to get it right. As a short term "something" the Patriot Act wasn't that bad IMO. Of course noting the ratchet principle, and the simple fact that big government seems quite complacent with poor solutions, especially when it gives great power over the minions, it certainly isn't a good thing. Eventually though, even the strongest of ratchets will fail. Catastrophically!
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The analogy only goes so far, but....
when it looks like the ratchet is going to fail, the first response is going to be to add chains.... the urge will be to chain down the load good and tight.

We're the load.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Patriot Act was an example of we have to do "something".

exactly.

"there ought to be a law"
"we have to DO something"

Often results in...."the committee for public safety"

It is the slippery slope.
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Reindog
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Easy Choice: "Hard Choices" or "Blood Feud"?

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Reindog
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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