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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2014 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can you spot *fast in the mob?

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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2014 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So this is all a bit confusing, but let's try to do a quick summation of our foreign policies of late. We have pulled the military out of Iraq on a political, not military schedule. We also had the fiasco in Benghazi, which it turns out was involved in a gun running operation to rebels in Syria. Now we have well armed rebels from Syria flowing over the border slaughtering people on their way to Baghdad.

Who's side exactly are we on? Did I miss anything connected to this clusterf***?
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2014 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, I know a piece I forgot... The Syrian rebels are being lead by Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, who was released from a US military back in 2009. Also that we have just released 5 more of his ilk. What could possibly go wrong?
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Oldog
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2014 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Again when are the Impeachement and trial for high crimes starting?

have you written your senator // representative ?

This has got to stop!
BO and his crowd are unfit to run this country.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2014 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is getting a little too much like the last throws of a dictatorship when they open the prison doors to unleash all the violent criminals. Instead BO is inviting other countries violent criminals in across our border. It's really gone insane!

Border agent laments gang members entering U.S.: ‘Why are we letting him in here?’
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2014 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/20 14/06/obama-to-iraq-your-problem-now.html

This is pretty much the thing I was warning about. Obama is going to abandon our responsibility and let an ally be conquered just like the D controlled Congress did in Vietnam.

F him. F Congress.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2014 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is the way recall your senators and congressmen and get the Impeachment and Treason Trials started. Televised and covered on radio! We have a long list of treasonous folks to work through!
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Cataract2
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2014 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.stonekettle.com/2014/06/absolutely-noth ing.html
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2014 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Don't just embrace the crazy, sidle up next to it and lick its ear."

Thanks.

Mitt is not my favorite Pol.

Give me a few days and I may come up with one I like. Probably won't be from the last 100 years.

Your suggestions on how to deal with Obama's "screw the Iraqi People" attitude, which combined with Bush's foolish listening to "kinder, gentler" idiots on how to run Iraq, led to the upcoming mass slaughter?
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Fredfast
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2014 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That was f**king great!
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2014 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The emotion driven garbage that impresses leftists.

What we gained in Iraq?

1. The end of a mass murdering, genocidal, warmongering terrorist regime intent on regaining WMDs.

2. The defeat of al qaeda in what they themselves characterized as their central focus in their war against us.

3. A nation no longer perpetrating genocide upon its own citizens. Ask any Kurd or Shia from Basra.

The list can go on and on.

Dishonest people pretend nothing was won in Iraq. Such willful blindness is how liars operate. They'd rather pretend nothing was gained, so that they can excuse themselves for relegating those we promised to support back into hell on earth to torture and mass murder at the hands of beasts. Despicable.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2014 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake I spoke incorrectly WE NEED LOUIE for PRESIDENT
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Reindog
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 02:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is a quote from the hatred that Cataract2 linked .

Strap John McCain into the cockpit of an A-4 Skyhawk and let him fly air cover.

If he gets himself shot down and taken prisoner again, well, you know what? him, leave him to the enemy because frankly his hate and bile and raging insanity have done more damage to this country than Bowe Bergdahl ever did.

The terrorists can keep him.


Pretty sad to denigrate a real American hero like McCain. One doesn't have to agree with McCain's politics (I don't) to be repulsed by the sputum that infects the author's brain. Sounded like Frank or whomever the Troll is smoked a cigarette after reading it.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I couldn't find a single reply that disagreed with that blogger.

Hmmm wonder why that is?

That guy claims to have been there... I don't believe it.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The guy is full of himself.



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Sifo
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)







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Reindog
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why is it that the preponderance of evidence shows that the Leftists here and elsewhere operate solely on emotion rather than logic? It is truly puzzling that there appears to be a vacuum of intellectual capacity. The modus operandi for the Left is to hurl mud, scream loud, present no evidence, denigrate those they disagree with, and run away. This is truly sad as this errant behavior serves to give power to the State as they abrogate their individual rights and responsibilities.

A prime example is that link that Cataract2 posted.

Prove me wrong. I am listening.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

can't.

It's a religion specifically designed to con people into believing lies and cling to them with desperation.

There is a serious and real difference between "leftist" "progressive" and "liberal". The lying sack of crap Progressives ( even the name is a lie, they are for dictatorial authoritarianism ) stole the name "liberal" to fool people.

Still, you are correct, the appeal is emotion based, because the ideology can't take rational analysis. The contradictions, and simple record of accomplishment make that not only impossible, but Forbidden.

It's a cult that has killed more people than Islam, more than war, more than disease.
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Cataract2
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.fitsnews.com/2014/06/16/ron-paul-havent -already-done-enough-damage-iraq/#t5QRTkJuOOaFVuee .99
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Cataract2
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://prorev.com/byrdtalk.htm
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So Cataract2, as long as you wish to post stuff questioning us starting Gulf War #2, what would you have had us do? What would be the likely outcome? Just wondering how much you have thought this through. Should we have simply continued sitting Saddam with him lobbing anti-aircraft shells at our planes enforcing the no-fly zone daily? Should we have simply packed up and let him go back to developing his WMD programs? What was the "correct" choice? I'd really like to hear of a better choice for a change.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Didn't Saddam have actual plans to invade Saudi Arabia?? (after his rampage thru Kuwaiti?) Yup... easy to tell he would have.. all while also shooting more scuds over to Israel and eventually his other missles that were under development. A lot more folks would have died. Not very difficult to recognize what his intentions were.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Meanwhile, BO and horse face are preaching the "vital security issue" climate change.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/06/16/John -Kerry-Protecting-Oceans-from-Climate-Change-a-Vit al-Security-Issue
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Didn't Saddam have actual plans to invade Saudi Arabia?? (after his rampage thru Kuwaiti?)"

Plans? He did. They crossed the border. That's what operation Desert Shield was all about...keeping him out of SA.
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Fb1
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the media doesn't hold tyrants accountable, the blood of the people will be on their hands.

Andrew Breitbart held the tyrants accountable, and it got him killed.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The sanctions in Iraq were supposed to be killing 250,000 children a year.

All the Oil-for-food program money went into Saddam's pocket. Not food for Iraqis.

He was in violation of the treaty he signed to stay in power.

The liberation of Iraq was a good thing. Perhaps we should have just let the children die, perhaps we should have removed the Baathists from power by other means.

One we DID liberate Iraq, in one of the more lopsided victories in history, and with brilliant military moves, THEN the trouble started.

"Sensitivity" to the "islamic world's opinion" led to some really freaking stupid moves. For example, there should never have been a second battle for Fallujah. We abandoned that city to AQ and the Baathists. ( the primary enemies to freedom in Iraq )

The decision to make Iraq the battlefield against AQ was actually successful, but the result was IMHO far too many civilian casualties. Inflicted by AQ and the Baathists. I thought and still do, that that conflict should have been pushed to the borders of Iraq, and to the detriment of Syria and Iran. This would have pulled the Allied troops out of the position of occupiers and made them Protectors, and given us the advantage of fighting in open terrain away from civilians.

I'm also on record as saying any "freedom fighters" killed on the borders should be cremated for psych warfare reasons. The smoke on the border would be a warning for AQ killers from around the world of their fate. I'd also have giant billboards set on the border with pictures of that female private leading the naked prisoner on a leash. "This is your fate if you murder the innocent" in the several tongues of the conflict.

I've written many times about how it could have been done differently, and IMHO better, but the Bush administration messed it up.

The the Obama regime has apparently decided to let Iraq die to support Obama's ongoing campaign.

Like they let hundreds of Mexicans die, on purpose, with "Fast & Furious" or Americans die in Benghazi, or Syrians die.....

History will show the true legacy of the Obama regime.

"Let them die for my lies" Barack Obama.
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Fredfast
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You pretend to care about the children of Iraq to justify military intervention but a social program that cares for kids here in the states is labeled socialism. What a joke.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/war-was-inter ested-in-obama/?singlepage=true

Leon Trotsky probably did not quite write the legendary aphorism that “you may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.” But whoever did, you get the point that no nation can always pick and choose when it wishes to be left alone.

Barack Obama, however, never quite realized that truth, and so just declared that “the world is less violent than it has ever been.” He must have meant less violent in the sense that the bad guys are winning and as they do, the violence wanes — sort of like Europe around March 1941, when all was relatively quiet under the new continental Reich.

One of Obama’s talking points in the 2012 campaign included a boast that he had “ended” the war in Iraq by bringing home every U.S. soldier that had been left to ensure the relative quiet and stability after the successful Petraeus surge. In the world of Obama, a war can be declared ended because he said so, given that no Americans were any longer directly involved. (Remind the ghosts of the recently beheaded in now al Qaeda-held Mosul that the war ended there in 2011.)

Iraq is in flames, as is “lead from behind” Libya, as is “red line” Syria, and as are those places where an al Qaeda “on the run” has migrated. Had Obama been commander in chief in 1940, he would have assured us that the wars in Czechoslovakia, Poland, and France were “over” — as they were in a sense for those who lost them, but as they were not for those next in line.

Of course, the Maliki government owns most of the blame for the spreading destruction of Iraq. Its retrograde exclusion of Sunnis from meaningful government helped to offer a fertile landscape to a resurgent al Qaeda. Now in extremis he seeks U.S. help. But Maliki’s pathetic past chauvinistic posturing over the status of forces agreement made it easy for Obama to pull out. (Hint to former U.S. clients: never horse-trade with Barack Obama over a needed U.S. military presence by threatening to eject all Americans; he will gladly call your bluff and leave every time.)



http://quotes.lifehack.org/quote/george-orwell/the -quickest-way-of-ending-a-war/
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Kenm123t
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Freddy your Strawman is on fire! One letting the evil of Socialism ruin the US is out of the question the fact you use children to forment your evil and then blame Conservatives for Liberal EVIL! Will no longer be tolerated. Liberals destroy families and the very soul of those they claim to care about.

Your Satanic tactics are designed to divide and denigrate the human spirit and demean a persons achievement

All children deserve a two parent A Man and a Woman not two mommies or bruce and bob
Iraqi Children deserve the same Even your family has that basic right it has to the same for every one.
Refusing to be fleeced by evil idiots and knaves and fools by opposing Progressive evil is The responsibility of every man The Fruits of my labor belong to me and my family not tramps and thieves.
Your argument is bankrupt and without merit. You Should be starting to understand the natural laws of group dynamics. Once the liberals reach critical mass the balance of the population decides they are too dangerous to have around they set about exterminating the Liberals.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rare form. Well said.
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