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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kenm, "ism issues"

How accurate.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yet one more facet of this disaster that will eventually blow up into corruption, scandal, deception, and zero accountability. Of course you have to wait for them to build the system first. Why wasn't this in the original specs?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-scie nce/federal-health-care-subsidies-may-be-too-high- or-too-low-for-more-than-1-million-americans/2014/ 05/16/8f544992-dd14-11e3-8009-71de85b9c527_story.h tml
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake any news on the Slinky people emoticon I requested?





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Fredfast
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"LOL Freddy you show evil nature
With your usage of the work "ILK". Only the true haters and those with ISM issues use that word LOL"

Just mimicking the Master of Ceremonies. Nice going big mouth.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fred you and I agree on one thing Obama is A Hater! Your exposing your favorite ISM s LOl Fred Seriously you need to deal with your self hate. Its destroying you the personal hell you create for your self will rob you of your relationships and any chance for a happy life. Your whining and caterwauling have no effect on us. We find it pitiful and sad to see how little peace you have in your life.
Addressing your position on Opportunity
Life is like this ( Cowards never started and Weaklings died along the way)
Struggles in life refine the soul and train the faithful. The Chinese have a saying Kindness is the beginning of Cruelty!
Those with out faith worry about things When they should worry about the Kind of man they are. Your altitude in life as in aviation is determined by you attitude.

Nice Slinkys Pwnzor! The down slinky on the up escalator pretty good example of Ole Freddy's mind always going the wrong way
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One of my favorite slinky factoids...



And of course... Pushing them down a flight of stairs!
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Fredfast
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Fred you and I agree on one thing Obama is A Hater! Your exposing your favorite ISM s LOl Fred Seriously you need to deal with your self hate. Its destroying you the personal hell you create for your self will rob you of your relationships and any chance for a happy life. Your whining and caterwauling have no effect on us. We find it pitiful and sad to see how little peace you have in your life.
Addressing your position on Opportunity
Life is like this ( Cowards never started and Weaklings died along the way)
Struggles in life refine the soul and train the faithful. The Chinese have a saying Kindness is the beginning of Cruelty!
Those with out faith worry about things When they should worry about the Kind of man they are. Your altitude in life as in aviation is determined by you attitude."


Is this guy for real
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Republicans Don't HAVE to do anything.

Health care is NOT a national event.
Your fat ass sitting in front of the TV, getting fatter
Your smoking, your drinking, your failure to get to the doc to even find out if you have high blood pressure is NOT a national event.

If your health is not important enough for you - yourself - to PERSONALLY - do something about it - then what f'n stretch of the imagination do you think I should give a flying shiat about it.

I don't.

And here is the real issue - neither does the 'loving' Obama. You are data feed to him, a growing herd of subservient culled voting pool that is on the dole and ready to be manipulated for whatever the next low information voter #hashtag this administration thinks is 'critical' or a crisis.

Take a look at the current VA scandal - do you REALLY think government health care is a good idea ?

PS - as a patient advocate for years - these tactics are not new - and have been epidemic in the system before Tri-Care.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2014 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's a little story about a bicycle crash, US hospitals, and immigration.

http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/the-unforgivi ng-moment/?singlepage=true
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oops there goes Nevada .....
http://tinyurl.com/pqop2vt

What is waiting in the wings
'We compromised - we tried to work with Republicans, the "market" has failed - so we must have a direct and FEDERAL single payer - because you can't keep the state's version open / viable / yadda yadda yadda'

Que it up - right after the elections - no Demo is going to touch it right now.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://pjmedia.com/blog/obamacare-11500-app/?singl epage=true

I dispute the title of this thread.

Obamacare is working GREAT!
If you own a company that got a multi billion dollar contract. I wonder how much Serco "contributed" to the Obama Campaign?
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/shapiro-left s-va-worship-comes-back-bite
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2014 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guess who is gonna pick up the tab? The Middle Class. Go away Donkey and Fool.

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Court
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2014 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm placed in the unusual position of having a rare conflict of interest in this healthcare thing.

On one hand I hate it.

On the other hand, I profit (potential) immensely from it.

It's going to be interesting to see if the American people can exercise common sense and get their head out of their ass.

Economically, I'm indifferent as to which way they go.

But much of me wants to see this "planned to fail and did" plan stuffed up someone's ass.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2014 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is a classic pump and dump; it was designed to fail in five years; and then they could impose a national plan of single payer.

It is however - failing faster then they expected....and I do not believe they will get the full three year run on insurance underwriting bail outs and subsidies ; I think it crashes before then.

but there is a way out of it.
and it hedges the failure nicely.
It works on market driven consumer based principles, and functions in shopping like Uber, or AirBnB. pity none in the US wanted to move on it; the Asian markets seem much more open to the idea.

It is going to be a buzy year.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm SO glad that this whole Obamacare thing is working out so well. Initially I thought it might turn into one of the biggest failures our nation had ever seen.

This Family Thought Obamacare Was ‘the Answer’… Until They Found Out Their Plan ‘Doesn’t Even Work’


quote:

For example, when it came to finding an obstetrician in Texas for their upcoming baby earlier this year, Rachel said she called all 28 practices listed as acceptable options for their plan, but could find none to take her as a patient.

“Some would just come right out and say, ‘We don’t take Obamacare,’” she said. ”Or the best one was, ‘The doctor takes it here at the actual practice, but whatever hospital you use … does not take that insurance.’”

NPR noted that there were practices that accepted HMO plans, but the doctors rotated and Rachel wanted a relationship with only one physician.

“It was mind-numbing, because I was just sitting there thinking, ‘I’m paying close to $400 a month just for me to have insurance that doesn’t even work. So what am I paying for?’” she told NPR.


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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 05:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's mind numbing that she looks at the world and thinks that bringing a kid into it is a move to be done.

Not one I would ever take.

PS - unless the FED REQUIRES and MANDATES doctors 'accept' Obamacare (medicaid) expect this trend to continue.

I know I warned y'all that your shiny new entitlement wouldn't be worth the paper it was printed on.
...
FIFTYS
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2014 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A question was asked the other day to opponents of Obamacare whether they wanted everyone to have health care. This study shows Obamacare will have the exact opposite intended effect. I have already posted multiple times about how to fix health care while keeping it in the private sector (so go find it yourself). The government has a proven track record of failure and incompetence so it clearly can not be trusted.


New Study: Obamacare Will Actually INCREASE the Number of Uninsured
By Kevin Boyd



A new study was released which shows that Obamacare will both increase the cost of health insurance and increase the number of uninsured.

Professor Stephen Parente and Adjunct Professor Michael Ramlet did an analysis of Obamacare and its projected effect on the number of uninsured over the next ten years. He found that the number of uninsured will go up starting in 2017, due to the declining purchasing power of the government subsidies.

Parente & Ramlet also found that health insurance costs will increase by nearly $1400 for those individuals with “silver” plans and $4200 for families with “silver” plans.

The Parente & Ramlet analysis ia the Washington Post:

Nationally, we estimate an initial decrease in the uninsured with greater use of the private health insurance subsidies, but over time health plan prices are likely to increase faster than the value of the insurance subsidy. As a result of the declining purchasing power of the insurance subsidy, the implementation of the qualified health plan requirements and the end of the reinsurance and risk corridor programs we estimate a significant reduction in the private insurance market in 2017 with steady declines continuing for the rest of the decade.

A few other important notes in the Parente & Ramlet study.

Arkansas residents can expect:

$1,277 Cost increase of an individual exchange health plan within 5 years (Silver)

$4,186 Cost increase of a family exchange health plan within 5 years (Silver)

30,300 Increase in the uninsured within 5 years (2019)

Iowa residents can expect:

$ 1,306 Cost increase of an individual exchange health plan within 5 years (Silver)

$4,417 Cost increase of a family exchange health plan within 5 years (Silver)

94,600 Increase in the uninsured within 5 years (2019)

Louisiana residents can expect:

$1,385 Cost increase of an individual exchange health plan within 5 years (Silver)

$4,000 Cost increase of a family exchange health plan within 5 years (Silver)

81,100 Increase in the uninsured within 5 years (2019)

North Carolina residents can expect:

$1,384 Cost increase of an individual exchange health plan within 5 years (Silver)

$4,131 Cost increase of a family exchange health plan within 5 years (Silver)

224,100 Increase in the uninsured within 5 years (2019)

Oregon residents can expect:

$1,269 Cost increase of an individual exchange health plan within 5 years (Silver)

$4,306 Cost increase of an individual exchange health plan within 5 years (Silver)

64,600 Increase in the uninsured within 5 years (2019)

All of these states have Senate seats that are currently held by Democrats and are up for election this year. And guess what? All of them voted for Obamacare.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/05/142679-heres-study -proves-obamacare-failure/

Link to the actual study: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files /2014/05/ParenteAnalysis.pdf
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2014 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its been a frustrating path for fiscal conservatives.

L: "We want everyone insured"
C: "The math won't work, you can't, there isn't enough money"
L: "Why do you hate the uninsured?"
C: "There simply isn't enough medical infrastructure of either staff, facilities, or resources for the proposed plan. Everyone will have to pay much more for significantly less care. And it assumes we could apply a medical solution to a problem that is at its root often a matter of poor decision making, which sounds like a recipe for extraordinary spending. An inevitable outcome is also death panels."
L: "Your a racist, aren't you?"
C: Face Palm.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2014 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just got a note from a good friend (this is their personal data, not a friend of a friend thing)...

Single parent one child household. Self employed, minor pre-existing medical conditions. Works 15 hour days to pay the bills and survive.

When Bush left office and before talk of ACA started: $5000 deductable, $140 per month.

After the first round of ACA changes impacted the plan: $5000 deductible, $228 per month.

Now, with a fully ACA compliant version of the plan: $6000 deductible, $470 per month.


They just can't afford it. So the effect of the ACA was to strip their insurance, and tax them for the privileged of now being forced to be uninsured.

What next, execute them and bill them for the bullet?

Pass or fail, so be it. But the fact that the politicians lied so brazenly about the math behind the ACA and it's inevitible implications, and the media completely supported them in the trivial to discover lies, demands that heads roll. Fire the media, fire the government, start again and come up with an honest (though still likely painful) solution to the health care struggle we have faced since the dawn of mankind.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2014 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"What next, execute them and bill them for the bullet? "

you haven't been following along. That is EXACTLY what they intend to do.

The ICD-10 has a DX code for death by guillotine, Medicaid has HCPCs codes for the guillotine, and the new AMA CPT has surgical codes for administrative death by state assignment.

You can & will be executed
Your family can & will be billed
Enjoy.
(PS your organs will be auctioned off as well - you know to supplement the budget)

DAMHIK
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2014 - 06:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Chinese have long charged the family for the bullet used to execute the counter revolutionary. ......... just to rub your nose in the power and futility of resisting the whims of the Rulers.

In China such crimes against the state include blogging, holding worship services, distributing Bibles, and complaining about corruption.

I keep telling people it's a religion. One with a very jealous god who will not tolerate competition or blasphemy. ( like pointing out the death panels )
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Fredfast
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2014 - 06:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?fe ed=AP&date=20140530&id=17663352

For all you haters of government funded healthcare. Thought you would enjoy.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2014 - 07:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Happy for you.
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Fredfast
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2014 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2014 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Happy for you.

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Fredfast
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2014 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A little homophobic Sifo? I wouldn't have guessed.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2014 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would love to hear your explanation of why I should be responsible for the cost associated with cutting off/out another person's genitals and mutilating them beyond recognition.
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Fredfast
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2014 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The reason given is that a woman in a mans body is a medical issue that needs correction the same as any other deformities.
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