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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, this thread had degraded to the point that Rocket seems prescient. Start yer own thread, Cataract, about whatever you are whining about cuz it certainly ain't bout Ukraine. You are one silly honcho.
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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 06:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm just bewildered by this diversion and waiting for Blake or someone to do something about it.

Ukraine, as important a topic as it is, has little meaning when it results in someone doing to another what's happening here. What's the f**king point if this is how friends end up not being friends.

Rocket in England
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Alfau
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm just bewildered

And here was me thinking you were just plain stupid.
Silly me.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At least I actually served unlike you.

You posted this right AFTER the post about having someone look up his "service" record and posting contents from that "service" record???
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You posted this right AFTER the post about having someone look up his "service" record and posting contents from that "service" record???

Work on that reading comprehension Sifo, it's a bit rusty. It you look back, HE posted that BS. I had someone look at what HE posted and they called BS before I even had a chance to ask what they thought. Now I know why you guys are so easily duped on here.

There is no way for my to go about looking up any of that info without his personal information, but since I would never give mine out over the net, I certainly won't ask someone for theirs. He's done a fine job discrediting himself thus far without my help.

(Message edited by cataract2 on May 10, 2014)
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 08:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry. I really am not focused on the details of your dick measuring squabble. Please allow me to correct my statement.

You posted this right after the post about having someone look up his "service" record, confirming that he served???

Is that better?
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You posted this right after the post about having someone look up his "service" record, confirming that he served???

You still need to work on the reading man. I never said I had anyone look up his service record. Why would I still be at him if I did? Logic man, it's not just for computers.

Here, I'll help you out. Here is what I said.

Just for fun City, had another guy who is still active take a look at your "impressive" list there.

After which I copied and pasted this list that HE posted. I didn't look it up.

(Message edited by cataract2 on May 10, 2014)
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Masters of Public Health 3/11

I'm going to figure you used your Montgomery GI Bill or Post-9/11 GI Bill to help cover for this, right?
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, now I see. It took "Just for fun City, had another guy who is still active take a look at your "impressive" list there." to mean that you actually had this guy confirm some actual documentation. Now I understand that it's just some other guys opinion about someone that he's never met. Gotcha!

Here's an idea, if you are so certain that he is fraudulently claiming military service, why don't you turn him in. I have to assume there must be a process for getting him prosecuted under the Stolen Valor Act. If there's proof that he has committed this crime, I'll be right there with you destroying his tainted reputation here on BadWEB. Based on nothing but an opinion, not so much.

I will add this, and it's meant with all sincerity... For those that have served, thank you.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now back to important issues...



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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's an idea, if you are so certain that he is fraudulently claiming military service, why don't you turn him in. I have to assume there must be a process for getting him prosecuted under the Stolen Valor Act. If there's proof that he has committed this crime, I'll be right there with you destroying his tainted reputation here on BadWEB. Based on nothing but an opinion, not so much.

Sigh, for how many of you claim to be informed you really aren't. I already stated back.

BTW, it's the Stolen Valor Act and it was ruled unconstitutional in 2012.

Now, there is a revised one in 2013, but since he doesn't seem to be doing the things it lists in there or claiming those things. (Nice and convenient how he stays outside of it. Hmmmm.. No awards because the Navy was to lazy. No documentation so getting benefits.... Odd...) No one would really bother with him for that act. Now would they?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Surely, call any unit on the list, they will all confirm they have no record of me or my service.

there are things that are dark and grey that go bump in the night that you have no idea about.

dial the numbers. rattle the cage.
have fun at it.

Meanwhile - people are getting shot in Mariupol; the troops in Rostov on the Don have NOT moved; they are in the same AO as they were last week.

Everyone is looking further north. A surge over the border on the coast is a just a hop skip and a jump. It is closer to their lanes of travel that they want to secure for port, roads, pipelines, and power lines. Relatively remote - and not in the communications realm of the major news agencies that would tip the hand.

Everyone look north.... and they come in south.
And I certainly hope they do a fine job of liberating a few Kiev Fascists of their last breath.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sigh, for how many of you claim to be informed you really aren't.

I make no claim to be well informed on what is going on between you and Cityx. All I see is someone who "claims" knowledge of someone who is lying, but offers no actual proof. Your claims could be absolutely correct for all I know. I don't see anything convincing in your arguments though. It really looks like you are demanding that Cityx whip his dick out next to yours to see who's is bigger. So far, it's not a pretty show.
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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get yer own thread or get a room you two, City and Cata. Now, get back on topic.
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Surely, call any unit on the list, they will all confirm they have no record of me or my service.

Uh huh. I put this in green because you must be Special Forces Green Beret Delta Force Seal Marine Recon communist ass kicking bad ass.

So, back to the question I asked.
Masters of Public Health 3/11
I'm guessing you used your Montgomery GI Bill or Post-9/11 GI Bill to help cover for this, right?
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

someone who is lying, but offers no actual proof.

Fact that he doesn't know how to use the form I've mentioned more than once or even what it's for is telling enough. Go on to his BOLD claims of what he did and then that list he rattled off that is just screaming BS. Top it off he has no proof or documentation of his service? Just his word that he did it. If you met him in person he couldn't produce anything. No documentation of awards, no service record, not even a copy of his ERB. Hey, how about orders? He has nothing. His only response is he did super secret squirrel stuff and that it was 007 type things that there would be no documentation and it never happened. For that whole time he was doing things from 1986 to 2004, 18 years, nothing, and now he says call any and all of them and they will show he was never there. All of them? ~18 units of nothing? What I did involved some major secret squirrel stuff, but there is always unclass and FOUO involved that goes into the record for what you do. He would have had that.

BS, pure BS.

Come on man, are you blinded by his shine or something? I know you want a hero, find a better one. This one is a fraud.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, we should stay on topic!







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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just won a pile of cash betting on the eventual winner of the Eurovision Song Contest.

The bearded lady has just been crowned Queen of Europe.


lady beard



Rocket in England
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, City, kinda curious. Got any photos of your time in you might care to share? I'd love to see the one of you in the Army with some stripes.

(Message edited by cataract2 on May 10, 2014)
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nope - I imagine the unit does.

came to Korea with a duffle, a ruck, and a helmet. I didn't bring the 'I love me wall' paraphernalia with me.

we now return you to our regularly scheduled program
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Weird, 6 years in myself and I have pictures of various types, both printed and digital. You had 18 and none, but your unit does? None? Not even a tinsey little digital one? I know you have a computer.

Still can't produce any proof when asked. Just your word.

So, back to the question I asked.
Masters of Public Health 3/11
I'm guessing you used your Montgomery GI Bill or Post-9/11 GI Bill to help cover for this, right?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yep, go contact DeVry if you want that info.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't have any birthday pictures either, so I guess I never got older

I wasn't in half of the school photos - so I must not have went to elementary, Jr High or High School.

I have four different addresses in the states and live at none of them.

Mean while - Fascist APC & Tanks massing north near Lugansk; will probably roll in response to the referendum that happens tomorrow when they vote Kiev the big F*ck off

The Russians are playing the same game in Rostov on the Don

This will be a very long week.
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yep, go contact DeVry if you want that info.

So, without any paperwork showing your service. How did you get the VA to pay out the GI Bill? They need the form showing your discharge type. You know, that same form you get when you get out. Those lovely separation documents that you are given, same ones you claim you didn't get because of that amazing secret squirrel stuff. The VA needs those forms as well, as they show your discharge type and time in service. Don't have that and they don't pay, but since you said that paperwork doesn't exist, well... You'd have a hard time proving to them anything, wouldn't ya?

You lying sack.

No photos, no documents, no discharge paperwork, and holy shit. You used the GI Bill.

(Message edited by cataract2 on May 10, 2014)
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you don't understand that Intell guys do not like to be in front of a camera - you really have no understanding of the word spook.

I am done entertaining your prattle

go diddle yourself in a corner.

I have given 18 years worth of units and contact, education, and time-line -
It is more than you will get from the Glorious O about his birth records
or Hillary about her Benghazi cover-up.
both of which you seem fine with.

If you want impugn my character - I suggest you come do it personally.
otherwise ; get bent.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2014 - 01:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the MSM mill here seems to think Puti'ns Tanks are Right where left them weeks ago.

With the annotated photos to show it.... of course - people on ground beat photo over head.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/vl adimir-putin-takes-victory-lap-crimea-n101956
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2014 - 02:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cataract2,

You are in direct blatant repeated violation of our terms of use.

Either apologize to Brian and everyone here who's suffered through your petty vitriol and your miserable baseless character attacks, or take your leave. Those are the only honorable choices existing.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2014 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My eldest brother spent over 20 years in the AFOSI.

You can't prove it, neither can I. He can, but only to certain people who are in place to handle things like VA services and GI bills.

I took the time to call him at home in New Mexico and ask questions specifically pointed toward Brian's claims. He tells me that it's not only possible, but highly likely that someone in Brian's position would be above and to the side of any standard type of record keeping.

Take that for what it's worth, and whether or not it's the truth the fact remains:

Brian has been pretty much spot on accurate from the word go.
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Cataract2
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2014 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only honorable thing here would be for City to admit he is a fraud with no proof. He lacks a single piece from his supposed 18 years of "service". He can not produce a shred of evidence for his time. No photos (which his intel explanation is bull), no separation documents (he said he didn't get any but he separated so....), doggy answers, lack of knowledge about documentation that is so freaking standard even an intel guy should know about it, and a listed service time that it looks like he was watching war movies and writing it out.

The guy is a loon and a poser who makes up his record to try to sound legit to those who don't know any better.

I will give an apology to Rocket for derailing his discussion in this thread. It was fun watching him make you lot dance. At least he can produce sources for what he's talking about. Something City can't do.

(Message edited by cataract2 on May 11, 2014)
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