| Author | Message | ||
     Aesquire |
I have that same answer for a Lot of questions. That's why The Prophet Gore considers me a Heretic. Darn. I was hoping for Arch Heretic. | ||
| Hughlysses |
You can interpret experiments with primordial ooze & sparks that the building blocks of life occurred naturally. From amino acids to Milla Jovovich however. ............ my bet is miracle. I have no scientific proof but dang. Milla was once on the front of a pot smoking mag. Milla......  | ||
| Fast1075 |
I smoked a mullet once. Man was it hard to get lit. Had to use a #12 rosebud. But I wasn't hungry when I got done.  | ||
| Kenm123t |
Fast are you a Choomer too? you used fire not smoke on the Mullet Could explain the hair loss Be careful DUDE!  here have a Mullet If Fl legalizes Pot I want a Frito Lay Franchise! | ||
| Crusty |
Ya know; Frosted Mini-Wheats dipped in spaghetti sauce are really tasty, man! | ||
| Aesquire |
Kenm........ 2 words. Krispy Kreme. | ||
| Sifo |
White Castle about 2:00 AM is always a hoppin' place on the weekends. | ||
| Aesquire |
We should get back on topic. The Fifth Element is imho one of the great movies. Milla Jovovich really makes it but I give Gary Oldman credit for the villain role. "Multipass" | ||
| Fast1075 |
Choomer?, nah. I was an Eagle Scout, and class valedictorian, and I am an undependable job jumper. I have only been at the same job 31 years. I have just been trying to interject some fun and silliness into a thread that has gotten way to serious.  And how else do you smoke a mullet "Fast". And I LOVE to watch stoner movies. They are such a satirical stretch from reality....wait a minute.....wow! SHINY!!!! | ||
| Sifo |
I'm smokin' a pork butt right now! I do have the munchies!!! | ||
| Aesquire |
Remember "Fridays" Rasta Chef? "Do we bake it? No no no no. Do we boil it?......" ( you have to be a certain age to remember the short lived SNL knock off) Did you wrap the pork in bacon? | ||
| Sifo |
No bacon. Traditional dry rub. Peach wood smoke. NC style sauce will finish it off. A good coleslaw. All we need is some...  | ||
| Hughlysses |
We should get back on topic. The Fifth Element is imho one of the great movies. Milla Jovovich really makes it but I give Gary Oldman credit for the villain role. "Multipass" She cracks me up every time she says that.  | ||
| Sifo |
My wife and I say that all the time. Also...  | ||
| Aesquire |
"A real warrior would have asked about the red button." | ||
| Bking |
Funny Or Die - Mile High http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/1ed2a3f4ed/mile-h igh | ||
| Kenm123t |
Aes Shelf life and the way some drive the hot grease would be all over the road when doing door to door at the pot shops How ever Multi shop Krispie Kreme Mrs Fields and Frito Lay place may be much better LOL For non Choomers a Hot bacon vending machine would be a a major money maker | ||
| Aesquire |
We're lucky locally in that we have some very good family owned donut shops. A Krispy Kreme was here for about a year, then folded. Other than their signature glazed puff of air,fat,& sugar their donuts didn't impress. I have to say the in store marketing was genius. First, you wait in line next to a big glass window where you can watch donuts being made in a giant machine. Giving a customer in line something to watch is a Disney invention I think, and Krispy Kreme gets it. Second and this is the real genius, they give you a free glazed donut while you are in line. Even if you just were going to buy ONE and a cup of coffee, the sugar rush addles your brain. Then when you get to the counter they tell you it's 2 dozen for the price of one...and you automatically buy Two dozen to take to work. There everyone thanks & curses you and you wonder why you did it. Pure genius. Throw in legal pot, and a franchise is a real money maker. Delivery? More problematic. First, the ever intended increase in fuel costs is going to hurt, second, if you offer anything other than the one style of glazed donut, the time it takes your customer to make up his mind make a sale, I doubt you can pull a profit. Perhaps the Dorito business is a better idea? Vending machines? Hmmm. Don't forget to sell Fabreze. I think that'd be a big money maker. Fabreze booths? | ||
| Hughlysses |
Interesting article on a convert to the pro-legalization side: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/9-reasons-sanjay-gup ta-changed-170000967.html And another picture of Milla...  \ | ||
| Slaughter |
Duuude. Pot smoking is... like uhh... y'know. duuuuude, MILLA whoah man. dude, she's like y'know. some little smoke here 'n there isn't goin' to have much damage. Dude... Milla! What was it we're talking about? Yeah - I heard that dipping a joint in vodka really helps get the buzz goin'. Long's that vodka is organic man. Who was that hot chick? Yeah man. | ||
| Sifo |
Interesting article on a convert to the pro-legalization side: Pretty big difference between legalizing it and considering it a controlled medical drug. If they find real medical uses, I'm all for it. Even so, check out the long lists of possible side effects of most current drugs. If it does have medical uses, it almost certainly has unwanted side effects. Pot is not different. This does zip to refute the study showing abnormal brain development. I do wonder where some of their info came from though. "it doesn't lead people to use other drugs" I really wonder how they come to this conclusion. Of all the folks I've know who have done harder drugs, they smoked pot first. I'm sure there's exceptions to this, but they are exceptions. I guess you could argue that there's no physiological need to go from pot to another drug, but that would be true of almost any drug. It's kind of like arguing that getting a less than 500 cc motorcycle doesn't lead to getting larger motorcycles.  It was interesting that they acknowledge the addiction factor though. "We now know that while estimates vary, marijuana leads to dependence in around 9 to 10% of its adult users." The addictive properties have been denied more times that I can count. Meanwhile though, medical is very different from legal.  | ||
| Crusty |
Of all the folks I've know who have done harder drugs, they smoked pot first. Yeah; and before they smoked pot, they drank beer first. And before they drank beer, they drank mother's milk. So, I guess that if you appreciate looking at naked female breasts, you're a potential drug addict, eh? | ||
| Sifo |
Actually many start with pot simply because it's easier to get when you are under age. The point however, is that that article made that blanket statement that pot does not lead to other drugs, despite there being a plethora of evidence to the contrary. Even taking your assertion that pot smokers drink beer first, doesn't support the idea that pot doesn't lead to other drugs though. In fact it could easily be seen as evidence to the contrary. I'm really not making any point other than the credibility of the information in the article though. Even if the article is off topic. | ||
| Fast1075 |
It is my belief that personality is a major factor in addiction. I have known people that broke one addiction, only to replace it with another. One may be addicted to legal drugs, and another to illegal ones, or food, or sex, or ridng fast motorcycles, or anything else that creates that rush. On the brain damage from pot. Most of the people that I knew that were stupid, were born that way. Some of them took up smoking weed. Some of them took up booze. Some of them went with harder stuff, and risky lifestyles. Like my Grand Dad said. Stupid goes clean to the bone. As far as the medical use goes. I have seen with my own eyes what a benefit it can be to people with chronic disease. (Message edited by fast1075 on April 21, 2014) | ||
| Hughlysses |
Three posts with no Milla? What the hell is wrong with you guys?   | ||
| Aesquire |
Getting involved in any illegal drug leads to other illegal drugs. If you are in the black market at all, you have access to more. Addicted, habituated, dependence... all different confusing terms. NONE of these definitions is official, legal or medical. Habituated. If you drink coffee every day you are habituated. Probably addicted as well, since coffee has caffeine and that is addicting. Eat Okra every day, and miss it when it's gone. No notable chemical changes in brain & body. Habituated. Dependent. mixed bag here. You REALLY miss it. I'm dependent on pain meds to function. I really miss them when I skip them. Since they are mostly OTC like Advil, not addicted, somewhat habituated, but sadly dependent. Insulin users are dependent. Addicted? Technically, perhaps. Not a textbook answer though. You do get chemical changes in brain & body. Can even go into a coma. Dying produces lots more chemical changes. Addicted implies chemical changes when use is discontinued. Heroin, Cocaine, Meth, Barbiturates ... classic examples. Barbiturate withdrawn can be fatal. Really want a doctor handy to balance the chemical reactions in the body. A large, unspoken part of painkiller addiction, especially strong ones like the opiates, is that the pain stops. There's no doubt in my mind that opiates can be very addictive beyond and besides any desire for a buzz or relief from nagging pain. But the relief from pain part of the equation is often ignored. It means to many people that they can live a life instead of hiding from it. The addiction part is like most human things, on a bell curve. Some are very subject to it, some are not at all. Most in the middle somewhere. ( yes, some people will not get addicted to opiates, period. Variations in personal chemistry. ) Pot, typically, is considered not addicting, habituating, and some few people are dependent. Does it mess you up long term? some people, absolutely. I'm a bit skeptical on ANY "study" that seems to be intended to influence legislation, but 10 years of daily use in an immature brain? Possible. More studies are needed. Lets dissect the brains of all the anti-gun Colorado Legislators and see what results we get. Medical. vs. Recreational. Bet there's a lot of cross over there, I bet a bunch of the medical marijuana folk just want to catch a buzz after work, legally. but there are legit medical uses for Mary Jane. As a painkiller it's not very effective. As a pain "make it easier to live with" drug it's pretty good. As a anti- nausea drug, it's priceless. That is from personal anecdotal experience with friends on Chemo. Pills just don't work when you throw up a glass of water. Injections do, but the side effects of those drugs tend to be.... not so good either. As a side effect, short term memory loss and euphoria are real and in some cases acceptable. If, for example, I was a professional pilot I would not allow me to fly passengers while on pot. Congress? I assume they're drunk anyway.  | ||
| Sifo |
I'm a bit skeptical on ANY "study" that seems to be intended to influence legislation You've made mention of this skepticism at least twice now. Do you see this study as an attempt to influence legislation? I'm not seeing where you get that from. Not saying it's not possible, I just don't see it. I have a hard time with understanding pot as a pain killer. Then again, for what ever reason many people swear by Vicodin, but it dose almost nothing for me except give me nightmares. Even morphine, for me is surprisingly ineffective. It certainly takes the edge off, and makes me not care as much about the pain, but it's certainly still there. Pot, just does nothing for me in that department. The good news for me, I've been told a number of times in the ER that I have a high tolerance for pain.  | ||
| Aesquire |
Have you gotten the "I can't believe you walked in here" line? You illustrate perfectly the variability of human reactions to drugs. Demerol just puts me to happy not hurting sleep. Not my choice for a recreational drug. ( for me, Mt. Dew or Coca Cola ) My skepticism to any Study is because that's the sop for many special interest groups ( mostly leftist, but not all ) who release a study with much fanfare and it rolls through to law without rational examination. I'm skeptical of any reports on Russian tv too. That said.... Makes a lot of sense. The Male brain isn't fully developed at age 18, that part that makes decisions on risk taking, in particular seems to wait until you've earned some bruises. I do seriously wonder how many of the study's subjects were on ADD drugs, since self medication and ADD seem to correlate. It may turn out that Ritalin is the proximate cause, or has no effect. I'm thinking we should volunteer the NY State Legislature for brain dissection. I give you permission. I have just as much right to do so as those who voted for the SAFE act. I assume they are all pot smokers.  | ||
| Sifo |
I'm just not seeing this having the expected flags to be a bogus study with an agenda. It was done by a left leaning school, in a very liberal town of a very liberal state. That school still has a good reputation too. It's published in a reputable medical journal too. Had they found all kinds of healthy benefits, I would be more skeptical with the potential liberal politics applying pressure. Finding a consistent adverse effect that would be pretty easily verified/falsified by a follow up study though, just doesn't set off those flags for me. This would be an easy study to repeat too. Add to all of that, it wasn't floated into the news surrounded by politicians demanding new laws. I didn't present it here that way either. That doesn't stop the knee-jerk defense of pot smoking though. Now, it this were connected to global warming... | ||
| Rick_a |
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