| Author | Message | ||
     Aesquire |
Obviously you have never seen new information that changed your mind. That is why science is never settled. Off topic IF China had 2nd amendment rights it wouldn't be a dictatorship. | ||
| Fredfast |
"Off topic IF China had 2nd amendment rights it wouldn't be a dictatorship." You're right. It would be anarchy. | ||
| Fredfast |
"Obviously you have never seen new information that changed your mind." Now that's lame. | ||
| Aesquire |
Hoot got a link to those numbered "techniques"? Now ff is picking on the disabled. | ||
| Blake |
Cause totalitarianism is so much better. If you're a leftist I mean. | ||
| Fredfast |
"Cause totalitarianism is better." Fixed it. Anything is better than anarchy, especially for 1.3 billion people. | ||
| Aesquire |
That was the theme of that beautiful propaganda film "Hero". The Emperor was better than the warlords & kings. Great cinematography. Fully approved by the greatest mass murderers in history. | ||
| Hootowl |
"Hoot got a link to those numbered "techniques"?" Just google rules for radicals. | ||
| Hootowl |
Non sequitur. An armed populace does not lead to anarchy. Try again. edited for embarassing spelling error. (Message edited by hootowl on February 25, 2014) | ||
| Aesquire |
Thanks. The ridicule by exaggeration ploy is at work here. Nicely done too. First declare that anarchy is the result of freedom. ( false but ff don't care, nor did Alinsky ) Then declare that tyranny is better. ( arguable unless you are the rulers ) So no one notices he is ignorant of the subject and being a parrot. Plus he picks on the disabled. Definitely a Sanger fan. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Clearly, it is Bush's fault. That guy is so evil he was obviously polluting the planet 8 million years before he was born. The bastard! | ||
| Fredfast |
"An armed populace does not lead to anarchy." Iraq, Syria, Egypt anyone? | ||
| Hootowl |
You appear to be unaware of the conditions which led to the situation in those countries. It wasn't an armed populace. Perhaps some remedial reading on brutal dictatorships would be in order? | ||
| Fredfast |
"You appear to be unaware of the conditions which led to the situation in those countries." You can't have it both ways. According to you the same conditions existed (brutal dictatorship) in those countries that exist in present day China. So which is it? | ||
| Sifo |
"Yeah, be careful of the source of your information." Heed your own warning. This guy Christy signed a statement in 2003 by the American Geophysical Union stating that the earth is warming at a faster rate than first believed. Apparently he's a flip-flopper and will justify whatever his backers desire. Looks to me like either you have been lied to, or you are doing the lying yourself. Either way, it's one more example of lies of the left. http://money.cnn.com/2009/05/14/magazines/fortune/ globalwarming.fortune/?postversion=2009051412
WOW! He really is a wacko extremist on climate! | ||
| Hootowl |
"You can't have it both ways. According to you the same conditions existed (brutal dictatorship) in those countries that exist in present day China. So which is it?" Straw man. I made no claim that all brutal dictatorships end up like Egypt, Syria, and Iraq. | ||
| Reepicheep |
My small town is armed to the freaking teeth. I bet there are more guns and ammo in Lebanon Ohio than in some small countries. Lawless and anarchy rule here of course. Oh wait, no they don't. Lebanon is the nicest, politest, kindest, and friendliest little farming town you could ever ask to visit. Huh. Huh. (Message edited by reepicheep on February 25, 2014) | ||
| Aesquire |
The latest PJTV vid "Klavan & Whittle: Why Do Liberals Love Islam?" ( members only ) explains ( or offers a couple of good opinions ) the love leftists have with brutal dictators. One explanation is the reaction to colonialism of the European immigrants from the former colonies. "Colonialism is bad, treating the Other different is bad, the Other is the same as us, the Other is better". Childish logic. The other explanation is that leftists admire the power, street power, of the Jihadi because personally, the are terrified of cutlery, but the Jihadi aren't and the leftists could never be so "authentic". It's a split personality thing, leftists luv stories like "The Bourne Identity" stories where a "lone hero fights the powerful ( blank}" which, funny, is a theme also loved by the rest of us. Leftists are happiest when the powerful is something they hate, of course, and if Bourne had been fighting the Glorious Leaders that the leftists love, they would reject the film. With bogus excuses. Self honesty is foreign to these people, since self honesty would lead to an examination of their own principals, ( which are, as declared, mostly good! ) and the results of their actions, ( on the whole, horrific ) and that cognitive dissonance inspires deep terror in them. Not that it's wine & roses for everyone else, a lot of people refuse to examine their core beliefs. Back on topic. Science, and it's effect on us. I wasn't expecting this so soon. But here it is. There are serious moral questions about this subject that MUST be addressed before we have serious problems. I'd like to see what my cousin has to say about this one. ( he's a pediatrician and Medical ethicist ) http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-25/dad-may-j oin-two-moms-for-disease-free-designer-babies.html | ||
| Hootowl |
I think I'll watch Gattaca again this evening. Good flick. | ||
| Hootowl |
Seriously though, I think if we can prevent disease and defects, we should. Generally. And no, other than watching Gattaca and predictably siding with the hero, I've not considered the ethical consequences. | ||
| Aesquire |
as often happens, sci-fi writers consider things before governments do. Often used for social commentary, especially in brutal totalitarian regimes, Sci-fi allows a writer to mock his own system by disguising it. Very popular in the Soviet Union ( which encouraged engineering & space, unlike "post modern" America ) you could set your tale on Mars or some interstellar civilization and criticize it, where criticism of your own government would get you murdered. Also good for cautionary tales. Gattaca is a great example, and highly under rated. | ||
| Aesquire |
Dang, Hoot, you beat me to it. There are multiple problems. Sure, I'd like my offspring to be healthy. Skip the bad knees, the this, the that, and it's still my child, without my flaws. Awesome. but. While I'm at it, Hey, Doc, how about pornstar,, um, equipment? And Olympic Athlete build & metabolism. I'm overweight, why should my kid be? ( not a bad thing ) Taller? Prettier? How much different will my choices be from everyone else? I don't anticipate cloned armies, ( the old fashioned way is way cheaper ) but "Brave New World" with people built in castes, that can happen. Income inequality? How about gene Inequality? Will there be quotas? "we have enough Alpha kids this year, but we anticipate a need for Burger King workers, so your choice is 80 IQ or wait for the next lottery. Good thing your genes aren't suitable for sewer worker" I don't have the answers, but I have questions and fears. And it's coming. | ||
| Fredfast |
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_i mpacts/science/scientific-consensus-on.html Reading material for the ill-informed. | ||
| Aesquire |
A highly biased source. The U of CS is not a trustworthy group, IMHO. Besides that, even if you trust them with your life, the concept that consensus has a damn thing to do with truth, or reality, is false. It makes no difference how many agree. None. It's also well proven that the Hadley CRU & Dr. Mann are liars. That they use the tactics of the authoritarian left, to discredit those who disagree. Sorry, ff You are a (reality) Sad really. | ||
| Aesquire |
Would you accept Goldman Sachs if they told you that 97% of all economists say they should have your money to pay executive bonuses? | ||
| Fredfast |
"It makes no difference how many agree. None." The Party Line response. Do you wear a uniform when posting? | ||
| Aesquire |
Yes. Often. Truth is a party line? Cool. Which party? | ||
| Sifo |
Not a political one. | ||
| Kenm123t |
Red Diaper Doper Baby Probably related to Sandra Korn. Why do leftists embrace and Promote the Ideology that sends them to the Ovens? | ||
| Blake |
Laughable fraud. A 97% consensus in answer to a maddeningly vague question among a small group of cherry picked climate scientists. Deceivers suck. |
