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Beache
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2014 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have been wanting an electric bicycle for the past couple years. Does anyone have any experience with a complete bike, a conversion kit or a custom build? I have considered all three, but am currently looking and a used Prodeco Outlaw SS. It has an upgraded 12Ah battery and approximately 150 miles on it for 1300$.

http://electricbikereport.com/prodeco-outlaw-ss-el ectric-bike-review/
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2014 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm no expert, but 12 AH and 150 miles don't seem to line up from a physics perspective... not unless it's more or less walking speed.
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Beache
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2014 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, the the 12ah battery will likely go 20-25 mile range without assist. it has about 150 miles on the odometer.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2014 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will check with my buddies that run bike shops and get back to you. I am considering an electric motor for a recumbent.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Saturday, February 22, 2014 - 02:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe the copenhagen wheel is what you're looking for.

https://www.superpedestrian.com/
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Torquehd
Posted on Saturday, February 22, 2014 - 02:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hard to imagine a motor and battery that small would be of much value. Also hard to believe that the 1% of the time that you utilize the brake while riding would be enough to charge the battery worth anything.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2014 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In electrics you are so marginal for range that every little bit helps.
Some of the electric airplane guys are looking at regen braking on landing.....but they need high speed charging ubercapacitors for that. Also piezoelectric power recovery from wing flexing. There is also a transparent photo cell tech they are looking at for canopies.

Current battery power density makes electric planes only practical on a motorglider (power for take off then soaring power off ) or very light limited range recreational use. One one now available ultralight electric the battery costs as much as the rest of the aircraft.......and the charger is over $300.

Electric bikes now have "enough" power to work in their speed environment it's just range that is the issue.

As soon as the roads clear I am test riding a Bachetta recumbent bike and it may get a motor installed.
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Beache
Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2014 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is a real bargain on a hub motor kit. I just ordered it I will let you know what kind of quality it is.

http://e-mtb.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_in fo&cPath=86&products_id=251

Another forum I am a member of has high reviews for that dealer.
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/
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Mikexlr650
Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2014 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Would any of these motors work for a heavy freeride bike? Turn it into an e-dirtbike of sorts.
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Fahren
Posted on Monday, February 24, 2014 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have also seen some E-bikes that have better battery placement (mass centralization). The ones that have the batteries up on the luggage rack... judging by past bicycling experience carrying loads... they would get pretty squirrely.
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Beache
Posted on Monday, February 24, 2014 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is so much cool stuff out there. Optibike was one that stands out, the motor and batteries all inside the Crankset.

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Torquehd
Posted on Monday, February 24, 2014 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I realize ebikes have their place, and this is not the same genre, but for crying out loud, you could purchase an 1125r for $5700. It would take a LOT of riding for that bike to pay for itself, which in my mind is 75% of the reason to have an e bike.
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Beache
Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2014 - 05:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The one I am looking at is considerably less. there are some cool features a 1125 can't do.
-ride on the sidewalk
-go up/down stairs
-go on the bus
-Ensure you won't get laid while riding one...J/K

There are other toys out there besides motorcycles...
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Torquehd
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - 01:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmm, I once rode my XB9SX on a sidewalk in order to avoid the ignorant car driver who though it was his turn to T-bone a motorcyclist.

Not dogging on E-bikes, in fact, I think they potentially have a big part to play in the agenda to do away with America's dependence on foreign oil. But, if it's not going to pay for itself anytime soon in fuel savings, I'd rather have 120 RWHP.

I'm still waiting for a fully enclosed, aerodynamic, recumbent, electric bike to come along and dominate the market.
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Prof_stack
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - 01:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Being on the wrong side of 60, the hills in this city have gotten steeper over the last 20 years for me. Getting home exhausted and worn out is not what I like to do. So,

I've been using an Ohm Urban XU700 for a year and a half, and commute as often as I can. The hills of Seattle make use of the battery, but I have to pedal to get assistance from the motor.

A battery charge lasts about 24 miles for my hilly commute, but goes over 40 miles for flat road riding. Newer models have upped the battery range to over 60 miles.

I chose a nicer (pricier) bike and have no regrets about the cost. E-bikes are forced, in the USA, by law to not propel the rider over 20mph, you are on your own over that speed.

Anyway, I get good exercise since I can select the amount of juice that helps me.
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Beache
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've read alot of great things about Bionx. Do you find maintaining speeds at above 20mph are pretty easy?
Nice looking bike.

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Beache
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I have settled on this predeco Outlaw ss. I found a used one and am going to pull the trigger this weekend.

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Teeps
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Keep us posted on how this thing works.
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Torquehd
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good looking bike.

Edit: are you using this for on or off road? If you're riding on the street, it seems like your battery life (and legs and cardio system)would benefit from street tires.

(Message edited by torquehd on February 26, 2014)
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