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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any of YOU Obama supporters care to debate? Why do YOU continue to provide cover to this petty dictator and when the time comes, slobber your adoration for Hillary?

YOUR complicity is directly causing the erosion of American Greatness and the decimation of the Middle Class. Think about this and prove me wrong if you disagree.

Are YOU afraid of being slain on the battlefield of debate, logic, facts, and reason? YOUR silence suggests an answer. Prove me wrong.
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you for your encouragement, Joel9. It really helps to know that people benefit from the time it takes to post. What the Democrats did with removing the filibuster was and is a tipping point for me. They have veered away from the Founder's Intent that the Senate provides a reasoned low-pass filter that is free from the political winds of the moment and protection of the temporary Minority. Our very nation is in danger and the sycophants refuse to understand this.

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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Our very nation is in danger and the sycophants refuse to understand this.

I've become more and more convinced that they understand what they are doing very well. They see themselves making the final power grab. It's a very dangerous gamble that has few good outcomes for 99.9999% of the people.

I spent Thanksgiving with my in-laws (the wife's parents and her brother). Very interesting conversation. I was only there about 2 1/2 hours before they brought up healthcare. I just sat back and listened for a while as they bounced it back and forth about how we have to all share in the well being of people. The conversation had a blatantly communist flavor. Funny thing, knowing they are all Catholic and oppose abortion, and my wife has discussed this with them in the past, they swear up and down that abortion isn't a political issue. Well after a while, I just dropped the question, "So, how do you feel about the fact that you will now be paying for the masses to get abortions under ObamaCare?". Damned if they didn't cry foul claiming that I had said something too horrible to speak and shut the conversation down right there. Kind of funny, kind of sad. Makes it clear that they don't want to even have to think about what they are doing though. The last thing they want is to have a real honest debate about things. It really has become us vs. them. I'll remember who's us and who's them when stuff starts hitting the proverbial fan.

This is a family of low information voters BTW. Even my wife is fed up with it.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PRESIDENTIAL POWERS & THE U.S. CONSTITUTION

Convinced that President Barack Obama is writing his own laws on issues such as health insurance and immigration reform, the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday will examine just how much latitude the nation’s chief executive has to do so.

Live on CSPAN or here now....
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/hclive02
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope that Lois Lerhner becomes a stone ring around the o's neck

read and rejoice, there are still some hard working public servants, Darrel Issa is one

he is going to get to the bottom of it,

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/issa-fbi-irs-inve stigation/2013/12/03/id/539708?ns_mail_uid=6373772 9&ns_mail_job=1548489_12032013&promo_code=15CCB-1
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://freebeacon.com/china-threatens-japan-ahead- of-biden-trip/

Foreign policy?
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&load=9126&mpid=174

5 years later, the "recovery" expected to take 18 months, has higher unemployment, double the people on food stamps, and rolling down the road like a Porche Maus, Obamacare and an anticipated 40% reduction in your spending power.

And of course, the Power to mess with your lifestyle goes up nearly exponentially.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

typical economic cycle WITHOUT government intervention is 10 to 14 years trough to trough; meaning - the economy is and has always been (since the turn of the last century) cyclical - the EXCEPTIONS to those cycles are created by War, and poor Fiscal meddling. The Depression - was LENGTHENED by poor FISCAL policy.... and WWII did not get us OUT of that trough- but merely shifted a balanced budget off the table and let us ramp up production and 'employment / service' for the war effort. Giving rise to the faulted ideology that 'War is good for the economy' (certainly some segments prosper - but in total - a war is draining on a nation in assets, talent, finances and morale)
So THIS depression (which remember 'ended' in 2009.... should have produced a rebound by now...... EXCEPT that the collapse was 2007 - and for us to get to PRE Collapse numbers for GDP, CPI, and Unemployment would not occur until 2016 at the earliest - based on historical trending data..... UNLESS - they f%ck with the currency.
Which is exactly what I expect them to do.
Reissue of a new note, devalue and outlaw the dollar - and initiate a new 'safe currency' ..... tied to some 'world' exchange ratio.

watch and learn
wait and see

and getting it in early
FIFTYS
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Ducbsa
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This has some good thoughts:

http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/2013/12/03/low-in formation-leadership/
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Which is exactly what I expect them to do.
You say that like The Fed's not been printing money like mad. You know, quantitative easing.
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ProgLibs:
When America elects a Conservative President, are YOU finally going to start contributing to the debate? Why don't you act like a man and a Bueller and start now?

We can not have a meeting of the minds if you insist on skulking in the shadows. Support YOUR pResident. People are awaiting to hear your reasoned logical arguments if you have any.

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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guaranteed to (mostly) work, sort of.

That's quite the summary of what's going on right now. They have testified in congress that it's only about 60% complete. Unless he actually meant it was 60% incomplete. The testimony was less than clear. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt though. Now they are saying that an 80% success rate on that 60% is a good thing. I haven't even got a clue what complete failures in private industry to compare that too. Certainly nothing comparable on scale. Perhaps some kid had a lemonade stand that performed this poorly. I have my doubts though.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is from a piece on patriotpost.us but I will leave it up to the interested reader to find the author and the rest of the article. Obama is no Jackie Robinson. No, sir.


quote:

There is every indication to suggest that Obama's presidency will be seen as a failure similar to that of Jimmy Carter's. That's bad news for the nation but especially bad news for black Americans. No white presidential candidate had to live down the disgraced presidency of Carter, but I'm all too fearful that a future black presidential candidate will find himself carrying the heavy baggage of a failed black president. That's not a problem for white liberals who voted for Obama – they received their one-time guilt-relieving dose from voting for a black man to be president – but it is a problem for future generations of black Americans. But there's one excuse black people can make; we can claim that Obama is not an authentic black person but, as The New York Times might call him, a white black person.


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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's NOT a BLACK thing
I would vote for West
I would vote for integrity
I would vote for Constitutional Correct
I would vote for fiscal responsibility

I DID not vote for a Leninist Community Organizer that just happens to be Kenyan.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think that was a satire related quote Sifo.

I'm sure Putin thinks it... but I bet he didn't say it out loud.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm sure you're right about that. I'm sure you're right about the other part too.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That might be the most cogent thing I've ever read from Noonan. I don'y always agree with her assertions.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not the president's fault specifically, but the fault of he and his fellow travelers.

Apparently, begging is protected 1st amendment speech. Working to pay your own way is not.

There's no way a conservative could determine that to be the case.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/04/orders-for-mi stletoe-pour-in-after-reports-oregon-girl-being-to ld-cant-sell/?intcmp=latestnews
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, here is the article and the context.

Blacks and Obama
By Walter E. Williams · Dec. 4, 2013


quote:

In 1947, Jackie Robinson, after signing a contract with the Brooklyn Dodgers organization, broke the color barrier in Major League Baseball. He encountered open racist taunts and slurs from fans, opposing team players and even some members of his own team. Despite that, his batting average was nearly .300 in his first year. He led the National League in stolen bases and won the first Rookie of the Year award. There's no sense of justice that requires a player be as good as Robinson in order to have a chance in the major leagues, but the hard fact of the matter is that as the first black player, he had to be.

In 1947, black people could not afford an incompetent black baseball player. Today we can. The simple reason is that as a result of the excellence of Robinson – and many others who followed him, such as Satchel Paige, Don Newcombe, Larry Doby and Roy Campanella – today no one in his right mind, watching the incompetence of a particular black player, could say, “Those blacks can't play baseball.”



http://patriotpost.us/opinion/21974
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Garryb
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://news.yahoo.com/u-private-sector-adds-215-00 0-jobs-november-132737657--business.html
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Garryb
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Putin knows?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/look-twice-at-mos t-hated-market-in-the-world-russia-2013-12-04
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Strokizator
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After housing starts tanked in July, August and Sept, they are now back up to where they were in Jan, Feb & March. Yet author Lucia Mutikani spins the Oct increase over Sept's dismal numbers as the "largest increase in nearly 33.5 years".
Here's more info on the housing market http://www.cnbc.com/id/101246658

Adding 200,000 private sector jobs is about half of what we need each and every month. I suppose the 200K number is good news if you think bringing your "F" up to a "C-" shows your policies are working.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trillions in QE stimulus spending and 200K jobs per month is seen as success? Aren't we now setting the bar on the ground?
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW Garry, what do you think about BO's bombing of Libya? You bailed out of that conversation.

You also bailed out of a conversation long ago about the QE policy. Interesting that your article about Russia mentions Japan's two decade long recession. They have been following a QE policy for a very long time now. It's working well, isn't it!
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Garryb
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo, I honestly do not remember much about bombing of Libya.

I do know Gaddafi was a bad guy and it all went down pretty quickly.
Not like the war in Iraq, even though Bush was pretty quick with the bogus "Mission Accomplished" B.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bush_mission_acc omplished.jpg
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Low information supporter?
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Oldog
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Garry B Thanks for a reasonable reply, and article sighting it.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I may have been slightly harsh in my response to Garry about Libya. After all, virtually nobody know much about our bombing of Libya. It was done without explanation to the people, without congressional approval, and without UN approval. It was simply done, because in BO's own words... "I'm good at killing people".
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Garryb
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lets hope the Iranians view Obama in that same light.
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