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Hootowl
| Posted on Friday, November 22, 2013 - 10:36 am: |
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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/5-pointz-finis hed-article-1.1521660 Painting, by the building's owner, over the "art" is called genocide, and ironically, "graffiti" by the "Urban Artists" which is doublespeak for "vandals". The owner let them paint his building for a decade, and now that he wants it back, he's the bully. They have no respect for private property. What twisted world do they live in where they believe they are in the right? |
Hootowl
| Posted on Friday, November 22, 2013 - 10:37 am: |
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Please excuse (or possibly correct) the typo in the thread title. |
Fahren
| Posted on Friday, November 22, 2013 - 12:30 pm: |
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I'm not a lawyer, but it could be a case of adverse possession. Depends on whether the owner explicitly gave them (written) permission to use the building. If he did, that permission can be taken back. If he let them actively and openly and hostilely use the space (of the walls), they may have a case to continued rights to use it. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Friday, November 22, 2013 - 01:29 pm: |
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Article says he let them do it, but now that he's sold the building, it has to stop. The new owners are tearing it down to put up apartments. My objection is to the attitude of the vandals. They appear to believe that the building belonged to them since they had been defacing it for so long. |
Court
| Posted on Friday, November 22, 2013 - 01:51 pm: |
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The building has affectionately been known as the "College of Graffiti". I will be in that area all night tonight working on a current project I'm creating. I'll have to check it out.
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Bluzm2
| Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2013 - 12:12 pm: |
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Court, I really like the last one. |
86129squids
| Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2013 - 02:05 pm: |
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I read a news piece a couple of days ago about all this- the buildings are slated for demolition, and the owner who genuinely loved and appreciated the graffiti just couldn't bear to see the teardown with all the artwork going down too... I'm willing to bet that there are tons of pictures taken over the years of all the graffiti, and that it's possible to piece together an historical document to remember them. I've gotten into the habit of watching closely whenever a train rolls by, and I'm regularly impressed by what I see- the use of color, scale and depth using basically just spraypaint is astounding. Leaving aside any arguments about vandalism or lawbreaking, there are some seriously talented artists out there. I will say that whenever I see a "tag" by some punk with a Sharpie, or simply a monochrome "tag" on public space, I'm not impressed or pleased... but there's something more pleasing, even poetic about the things one sees passing by on an otherwise boring and ugly train. Court- as a lover of the image and the environs of the greater NY area, what's your take on all this? |
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