| Author | Message | ||
     Rick_a |
Zipper unzipped itself on the highway. I looked back in time to see it fly out. It was in a soft case. I was almost to it when someone ran it over. Bummer. I've been riding with guns since I was thirteen. Last time one fell out was when I was fourteen. My Crosman 357 CO2 revolver took a tumble off the BMX bike. This was a little more severe.  20131112_131131 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr  20131113_020553_LLS by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr  20131113_022938_LLS by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr All rounds except for the one chambered got crushed.  20131113_035921_LLS by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr  20131113_084958_LLS by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr  20131113_084930_LLS by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr  20131113_090211_LLS by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr  20131113_090237_LLS by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr New grips installed to show the crooked grip frame.  20131113_020400_LLS by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr  20131113_020655_LLS by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr  20131113_020726_LLS by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr  20131113_021552_LLS by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr I've had this gun since I turned 21. It's the last one I would have wanted to see something happen to. I'm still very glad nobody got hurt. The wife has been pretty good about it. She's given me permission to replace it, but I'll consider that as a last resort. | ||
| Gschuette |
What are the odds of it going off in an event like that? | ||
| Mnrider |
Ah thats sucks,it was prolly OK till it got ran over. I dropped my 22 rifle off my pedal bike when I was a kid,it just bent the front sight.Still have that gun it shoots fine. | ||
| Rick_a |
Mechanically should not be possible. There's a grip safety, manual safety, and firing pin safety. It's also a rebounding firing pin. If all that failed, dropped on the muzzle with enough force, it could fire if it stays in battery. That's a lot to go wrong at once. (Message edited by Rick_A on November 13, 2013) | ||
| Macbuell |
That f'n sucks, big time. | ||
| Teeps |
I was going to say slim to none on self firing; with "Slim" having just left town. Did you cry or say nasty words? | ||
| Sifo |
That really does suck! I'm also a bit surprised. A while back a cable TV show was doing some torture testing on a Springfield Armory XD(m). You know, one of those "plastic guns". They ran that one over with a truck and it was still operational, not to mention many other things that you would never intentionally do to a gun. It proved to be one tough gun. I would have expected better from a 1911. Not meaning to start a gun debate, just expressing my surprise. | ||
| Rick_a |
A polymer framed gun would have shattered. It was picked up by the front wheels then wedged between the rear wheels and the road. It then got spat out and thrown onto the roadway. This was in the fast lane on the highway. A car doing 75-80mph will have a lot of energy behind it. Being run over in place is a lot different than being struck at speed, not that I'd want to experience either myself. I had to hold back tears a few times. It felt like my best friend had just fallen and got ran over. As soon as I picked the gun up I knew it was toast. | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Hoaray sheet!....looks like it got squished by a steam roller. Wow! Nice pictures!  | ||
| Sifo |
A polymer framed gun would have shattered. It was picked up by the front wheels then wedged between the rear wheels and the road. It then got spat out and thrown onto the roadway. This was in the fast lane on the highway. A car doing 75-80mph will have a lot of energy behind it. Being run over in place is a lot different than being struck at speed, not that I'd want to experience either myself. Well what you describe is certainly far worse than the "test" done to the XD(m). I was just genuinely surprised at how your 1911 fared. The real world can be a brutal place at times, and nothing is indestructible. I guess in some ways, it's better than a severely scared, but serviceable gun that I could never really admire any more. I do agree that whatever forces did that to your gun, a plastic gun wouldn't have done better. I was surprised to see one survive being run over slowly. | ||
| Pwnzor |
I would have expected better from a 1911. It's not a 1911. That sucks, I'm sorry for your loss but zipper pockets are not a good place to be carrying that item, or any other item of value... as I found out a few months ago when I lost my wallet. Well at least your wife is a good sport, happy shopping! | ||
| Sifo |
It's not a 1911. Oh, you're right. I didn't look that closely. 1911 spinoff? I lost my garage door opener this summer. Four people following me, including my wife, never did a thing until the next gas stop when they all asked what I lost. I didn't figure it out until I got home and couldn't open the garage door. | ||
| Akbuell |
Yeah, sorry about your situation. I don't think that's going to buff out. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Jeeze. It's a banana gun now. There's no way to actually fix that is there? I suppose you can transfer parts over to a new gun but the actual frame is smooshed. Stuff sucks. | ||
| Forerunner |
A polymer framed gun would have shattered. But you wouldn't have cared.  I carry 'disposable' guns rather than ones I care about in case: a) if something does happen to it like above or b) I have to use it someday I won't mind surrendering it to the evidence locker where god knows what'll happen to it. Sorry to see that happen. Was that a steel frame? Nels | ||
| Reepicheep |
If I did choose to carry, I would carry without a round in the chamber. I recognize this puts me at a tactical disadvantage, but it gives me an additional safety margin for the unexpected. Oh, and sorry about the gun Rick, things are just things, but things bring back memories of people and places, and those memories matter. (Message edited by reepicheep on November 13, 2013) (Message edited by reepicheep on November 13, 2013) | ||
| Reepicheep |
Oh, and we already have a "horsepower versus torque" and "best oil" thread going, so we aren't allowed to start a "is a 1991A a 1911" thread.  | ||
| Sifo |
A polymer framed gun would have shattered. But you wouldn't have cared. : ) I carry 'disposable' guns rather than ones I care about in case: a) if something does happen to it like above or b) I have to use it someday I won't mind surrendering it to the evidence locker where god knows what'll happen to it. Exactly! My XD(m) is a great, functional gun. It's not a work of art though. Of course, I also spent about three times as much on a 1911.  so we aren't allowed to start a "is a 1991A a 1911" thread. Which one makes a better hole? | ||
| Etennuly |
Wow. Sorry to see that happen. A couple of good things happened though, for a sucky situation.....you saw it come out so that it did not end up in the hands of someone else, and it did not bounce up and hurt anyone. Crap man, you could not even use what is left for a hammer without at least wrapping it completely with tape!  | ||
| Rick_a |
1991A1 is just the designation for that particular 1911. We all have our preferences. That 1911 went with me everywhere. It's not very logical to put another frame beneath it. For a couple hundred more I could have a new one. I would rather be shopping for ammo, parts, and reloading gear than buying another gun. It is what it is. I contacted Colt inquiring about a replacement frame. No go. It is a steel framed gun. Amazing how elastic metals can become with enough force behind them. I'll probably still carry my full sized gun in a backpack. I'll look for something sturdy with an inner pouch. | ||
| Nm5150 |
I know I won't ride with a shoulder holster.A get off on the holster side equals broke ribs.Don't ask me how I know this Hate your pistol got broke  | ||
| Aesquire |
I feel for you. That's not a Colt that got run over, that's a Colt that got hit by a car. At 75? Whoa. It's not worth salvaging parts from, IMHO. What you should do is get a locking glass front wall box for it, so you can pass it around from time to time, and gaze at it and think of the good times and how lucky you are not to go through that..... A sad but nostalgic kind of thing. Don't think of it as replacing the deceased.... Pick out a nice new dog, remember the old one fondly, and move on with life. | ||
| Pnw_uly |
Rick - Sorry for your loss. . . Here's another option to the backpack - - may not be for everyone, and I don't entertain the possibility of drawing while on the bike, but I feel much better with my weapon here than in a backpack or the Uly topcase. In the event of a "get-off" its plausible that it'll do less damage than a shoulder rig.  I have one of these, pricey but well built. | ||
| 86129squids |
I was on my way home with some groceries, fresh produce and herbs... first I felt something whack me in the back of the neck, then I saw my bag of parsley fly out into traffic. It got run over by about a dozen cars and trucks. Pissed, I went back for another sack of parsley. True story. | ||
| Pnw_uly |
^ Not sure they make holsters for parsley. . ., but who knows ? ? ? | ||
| Rick_a |
Sounds tragic squids. You should have run into traffic and saved it, you wasteful SOB. I have a 1st Gulf War era U.S. M7 shoulder holster, but open carry isn't allowed in FL. unless going to/from designated hunting/fishing/shooting grounds. That and people tend to freak out a little about seeing large guns in the open; even the gun people. The wife got me a new backpack today that is pretty much what I was thinking of. Maybe she feels a little bad that it was her backpack that dumped my gun? All the guns I have are favorites, and I shoot and/or carry them often. This is the first time one has been damaged in any way. I don't buy into the disposable gun theory. My life is worth the best I can afford, and the ones that work best for me are what I buy and carry. | ||
| Nillaice |
Does it still function? I'm asking out if curiosity. I have a lot if respect for the 1911 platform, and I've never seen one tortured and twisted like that one. Sucks that your piece got banana'd. I have a rifle that is near and dear to me just as your pistol sounds to have been/is to you. I feel for ya. I carry most everywhere including when on the bike. I learned this lesson with only having to replace the rear sight, tho I never liked the glock 'tray' as much as a good set of steel 3-dots anyway. Here's to holsters with positive retention | ||
| Ratbuell |
Might I suggest using one of the keyring clips inside a backpack, to clip to the sidearm for added "anti-dump" safety? I know all my Buell bags have such a clip; it would be easy enough to stitch a strap into any ol' bag, with a carabiner attached, as a safety strap. You likely aren't carrying this way with quick-draw in mind, so a properly sized carabiner could clip through the trigger guard and hold everything in place even if the bag opens by accident. | ||
| Dcc46 |
Send it to Colt, you would be surprised what they can refurbish. | ||
| Forerunner |
I don't buy into the disposable gun theory. My life is worth the best I can afford, and the ones that work best for me are what I buy and carry. Understood. Self defense is a very personal decision and you should be comfortable with your choice. FWIW, my 'disposable' guns are plastic Glocks, FNH, and Steyr. Also as Sifo pointed out the Springfield Armory XD(m). These are guns trusted around the world by civilians, police, and military men and women and I absolutely trust them to go 'bang' everytime I pull that trigger. They aren't pretty but they are dead reliable. I don't care if they get dropped, scratched, discolored or in your case outright destroyed. They are tools, very common and easily replaceable. My HK P7M8's are not, nor my custom 1911's with Damascus slide, etc. I cherish and love all my firearms but some were purchased for a specific purpose. YMMV, Nels |
