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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder how much of a kickback Michelle got from her college friend for receiving this no-bid contract.

Why is this not being talked about, even in the "non-mainstream" media? Bill Whittle touched on it briefly in his Stratosphere Lounge telecast last night (www.billwhittle.com), but then even he quickly moved on.

This must be a real hot potato.

Damn shame Congress is so corrupt. If ANY other president in our history had lied, deceived, and perpetuated as much fraud on the good people of the United States as THIS president, they likely would have been tried, convicted and hung by now, if not literally then at least figuratively.

Why does 0bama get a pass on all this shit? Why doesn't Congress do their job??

Why doesn't the media do THEIR job???
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)









A large jet plane crashed on a farm in the middle of rural Kentucky. Panic stricken, the local sheriff mobilized and descended on the farm in force. By the time they got there, the aircraft was totally destroyed with only a burned hull left, smoldering in a tree line that bordered the farm.The sheriff and his men entered the smoking mess but could find no remains of anyone. They spotted the farmer plowing a field not too far away as if nothing had happened. They hurried over to the man’s tractor. “Hank,” the sheriff yelled, panting and out of breath.”Did you see this terrible accident happen?” “Yep. Sure did,” the farmer mumbled unconcerned, cutting off the tractor’s engine. Do you realize that is Air Force One, the airplane of the President of the United States?” “Yep.” “Were there any survivors?” “Nope. They’s all kilt straight out, “the farmer answered. “I done buried them all myself. Took me most of the morning.” “President Obama is dead?” the sheriff asked. “Well,” the farmer grumbled, restarting his tractor.
“He kept a-saying he wasn’t . . . But you know how bad that sumbitch lies.”





Early one morning, an elderly retired fighter pilot yelled to his wife...

"Honey...! Come see what I created...! It's an abstract panorama depicting the five years of the Obama presidency!"

She yelled back, "Flush the toilet and come eat your breakfast!"
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why does 0bama get a pass on all this shit?
Why doesn't Congress do their job??
Why doesn't the media do THEIR job???


IMO, obama gets a pass because those who voted for him don't want to admit that they were wrong.

IMO, many in congress are either complicit, or fear backlash

IMO, your earlier post with j carvel indicative of whats coming, it may become fashionable for the left to bash this clown if that happens expect more else, criticism of "their boy" wont happen for fear of being outed.

these comments are worth what you paid for them, nada ... }
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, well, I want my money back. : )
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Alfau
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Without affordable healthcare for all, it's survival of the richest.

Donald trumpet-with his hair_hat-will continue buying hair_hats while others can't afford to go to the doctor.

That Mormon, Mitt Billionaire; how does he live with himself.

Life and liberty FOR ALL, not just the rich.

I know I'm wasting my breath but, are you aware that Millions will now have health care that couldn't afford it before.
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alfau,
Instead of spouting meaningless platitudes, I invite you to read the Healthcare thread. You will be educated if you choose to go beyond writing feel good slogans.
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...are you aware that Millions will now have health care that couldn't afford it before.

No, I am not aware of that. Care to enlighten me?

Bonus question: Does the fact that millions of Americans now CAN'T afford health insurance bother you at all?

Extra-credit question: Do you actually believe that the FedGov has the legal (or moral) right to ORDER you (or me) to purchase a product?

Thanks.
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Macbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know I'm wasting my breath but, are you aware that Millions will now have health care that couldn't afford it before.

LOL

Are you aware that millions of others that had affordable care now do not have affordable care thanks to Obamacare?

Net effect is about the same number of uninsured but now the government has their fingers in that pie. But hey, it sounds great so it must work great in reality.

Oh, and Mitt Romney helped design the healthcare system in Mass. that parts of Obamacare was based on.

And while you scream to be GIVEN a piece of the pie by your precious government, your freedoms and liberties will slowly be taken away and you will wake up with nothing left but that which the government says you can have. Eat up.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Life and liberty FOR ALL, not just the rich."

That's rich. Do you know what liberty is? How does obamacare protect/provide liberty?
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Horowitz at Heritage Foundation: 'The Communist Party Is The Democratic Party'
By Breitbart News 12 Nov 2013

...Horowitz then analyzed what he claimed were the four features of the leftist mentality...

...Third, Horowitz said that the left was characterized by “alienation from this country... What weakens America is actually good.” Horowitz cited the Obama administration’s eager withdrawal from Iraq as evidence of that proposition: “Obama betrayed every American who gave their life for the people of Iraq.” He also slammed the Obama administration with regard to Benghazi: “Benghazi is the most shameful act in the history of the American presidency.” [emphasis mine]

Finally, said Horowitz, the American left “lie. And it's not like politicians spinning...you cannot be a leftist without lying about the most basic strategic facts about who you are.”

Horowitz summed up pessimistically: “We are within reach of a totalitarian state in this country…These are very very dark days for this country.”



Source, more: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/11/12 /Horowitz-blasts-left-Heritage



“The communist party is the Democratic Party." Wow. How can David Horowitz seriously make such an astounding statement? Read the piece.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Welcome to the Party, Pal

(said in my best John McClain voice)
and yes - I told you 5 f'n years ago this guy was a f'n Communist - every line of his rhetoric has been ripped from Lenin.
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believed you five years ago.

I still do. : )
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Refresher: 0bama "won" last November by 400,000 votes spread out among four swing states.

Now then:

quote:

Study Finds IRS Suppression of Tea Party Swung 2012 Election

A new study by the American Enterprise Institute -- "Do Political Protests Matter? Evidence From The Tea Party Movement" -- finds that the movement boosted Republican turnout by three to six million votes in the 2010 election. This effect was blunted in the 2012 election, though, because growth in the movement stalled.

That slowdown happened, co-author and AEI economist Stan Veuger notes, at the same time that the IRS began coming down hard on these groups. He argues in a RealClearMarkets.com article that this most likely had a major impact in the 2012 election.

"The founders, members, and donors of new Tea Party groups found themselves incapable of exercising their constitutional rights, and the Tea Party's impact was muted in the 2012 election cycle," Veuger said.

He added: "The data show that, had the Tea Party groups continued to grow at the pace seen in 2009 and 2010, and had their effect on the 2012 vote been similar to that seen in 2010, they would have brought the Republican Party as many as 5 to 8.5 million votes [emphasis mine] compared to Obama's victory margin of 5 million."



Source, more: http://washingtonexaminer.com/study-finds-irs-supp ression-of-tea-party-swung-2012-election/article/2 536756

(Message edited by fb1 on November 12, 2013)
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PS to above:

quote:

Yes, IRS Harassment Blunted The Tea Party Ground Game
By Stan Veuger

The controversy over the IRS's harassment of conservative groups continues. President 0bama's team continues to blame low-level bureaucrats. Some conservatives suspect a more sinister explanation: that the levers of government were used to attack an existential threat to the president's 2012 reelection. The president and his party dismiss this as a paranoid fantasy. The evidence, however, is enough to make one believe that targeting Tea Party groups would have been an effective campaign strategy going into the 2012 election cycle.

It is a well-known fact that the Tea Party movement dealt the president his famous "shellacking" in the 2010 mid-term election. Less well-known is the actual number of votes this new movement delivered-and the continuing effects these votes could have had in 2012 had the movement not been de-mobilized by the IRS.



Source, more: http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2013/06/2 0/yes_irs_harassment_blunted_the_tea_party_ground_ game_100412.html



But...but...wouldn't it be illegal (and immoral) for the Federal Government to use the power of the Federal Government to suppress political opposition?

Put another way: Isn't this a textbook definition of tyranny?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Remember Komrade, there were elections in the Soviet Union.... but the ballots were already filled out for you, and if you were a Party member that failed to cast your vote - you faced loss of position, status, access; exile, imprisonment, disappearance, and of course a purge along with others of Millions.

Yes, Komrade - there is a glorious future ahead of us under the O

;?/ sarcasm.
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting article Ferris, Horowitz is blunt

I read in to comments on articles like these to get a sense of the readership that comments

and I found this excerpt from the congressional record.

Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR.OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, January 10, 1963

Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10.Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian historysince the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction]

I wonder what City's take is ...

barrys todo list with part of it done...

(Message edited by oldog on November 12, 2013)
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh btw barry and hillary are trying to disarm us now...

traitors ....
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oldog, it's amazing (well, not amazing - frightening would be a better word) that so many of the goals of that list have been achieved. We're on the brink...and yet so many, many people still don't see it.

Ever study-up on Cloward-Piven? More frightening stuff.

Several years ago, after reading a recommendation here on the board from Glitch about Cleon Skousen's book "The Five Thousand Year Leap: 28 Great Ideas That Changed The World" I ordered up a copy for myself from Amazon. It's a great read; alas, I loaned the book to a conservative friend several years ago and never got it back. Interesting to see Mr. Skousen's name pop up on these pages again.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Five-Thousand-Year-Leap/ dp/0981559662


quote:

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. [WINNER! WINNER! WINNER!]

20. Infiltrate the press [WINNER! WINNER! WINNER!]. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."



The bad guys have been very busy...and very successful.

Up to and including taking over the White House.

Tough times, amigo. How do we convince mentally-blind Americans to finally open their eyes and SEE??
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SISRE 235 Revolution and Revolt on the Home front - a dialogue and discussion of the American Communist movement from the post World War II era through the Afghan War; critical analysis of Hollywood Blacklisting, Economic Strong Arming by Unions, and of course the Alarmist of McCarthy ......

Required coursework for the degree.
and yes - this was one of the core readings of the class.

The Communists had their nose under the tent in the fifties; Regan knew it - saw it, and called them out on it.....

If you want to know what your enemy is up to - read their propoganda, their mail, their tired tirade and cheerleading rhetoric.

hint Che Gueverra was NOT a motorcycle medical eveangalist to bring cures to the impoverished Latin America Rural population.... yes, the Communists are firmly afoot in Hollywood.

PS look at what the brits are about to pass under the name of domestic 'harmony' ...
http://rt.com/news/annoying-behaviour-uk-law-598/

Enjoy Komrade - it is for your own protection
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting (read: troubling) comment this morning from an "Open Thread" discussion at the Conservative Treehouse:

quote:

By the time you read this Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu will be sitting down to coffee with key Egyptian political and military figures nailing down the $4-billion dollar purchase of advanced Russian weaponry. It’s a done deal. The Russians will not only receive the cash but naval basing rights (hate to say ‘I told you so’) on Egypt’s Mediterranean coast (most likely at Alexandria) but on the Red Sea also. To interested types that means they’ll have virtual control of the Suez Canal. The Russians will control the eastern Med and the Red Sea, a position they won’t have had since Mubarek threw them out.

The defensive side of the package is reported to include antiaircraft radar and AA missiles capable of reaching to the middle of the Med and covering the Suez Canal – anybody remember the Yom Kippur War? The systems are reported to protect against cruise missiles, drones and stealth aircraft. Hmmm…the latter’s interesting as Israel ordered stealth aircraft from the US in 2011 to counter an Iranian threat and, even though the types of missiles the Russians will supply is still secret, the S-400 (SA-21) was designed to counteract US stealth technology.

The offensive side of the package is said to include unspecified ground attack missiles capable of reaching Iran. The ‘Iran’ thingie was most likely put in to salve the magic thinkers into denying they meant Tel Aviv and any potential US bases in the area. We still don’t know if the offensive missiles will be site-based or mobile (most likely), the latter allowing their ranges to be extended by relocating the launch vehicles.

The Russians say that some 1500 Russian ‘support’ personnel will accompany the equipment for setup and training but I believe the number will really be many times that number. I’ve worked with the Egyptian military and while there are some good people in it there are many more whose skill sets are less than hi—tech, and even that’s giving them credit. There’s another BIG problem too – after 40+ years of US tutoring the military’s set up on a US paradigm and many of the senior staff are more Western/US oriented than they are Russian. The Russians and Egyptians will have to have a major military-wide shakeup and shakeout of the Egyptian military, especially the command staff, before the Russians are comfortable working with them – that will take time and the Russians will have their people managing and maintaining their equipment for sometime. The Russian will also not allow the Egyptians to have access to some of the mainline equipment I’m betting they’ll filter in with the Egyptian stuff, especially the intel and threat targeting stuff they’ll be aiming against the Israelis and US/NATO forces if the latter ever grow a pair. The Russians are infamous for having their specialists sit in and operate gear they’ve provided to foreign countries to make sure it’s used correctly and effectively – ala’ Korea…Vietnam…

I’m also hearing that much of the cash to buy the equipment’s coming from…wait for it…Saudi Arabia. Sounds fishy until you figure that the Iranians have been attacking the Saudis at a low level for decades now – I remember many years ago when a Saudi AF guy told me they had Iranian AF pilots flying practice nuclear-attack patterns against Saudi oil fields and we’ve seen the Iranians militarize the islands in the throat of the Gulf, setting up to attack shipping and close it off. Now we have the Russians and Iranians on the Saudi east, the Russians will be on the Saudi west in the Red Sea and as soon as Russia and Iran secure Syria and get Hezbollah to start moving on the Levant the Saudis will have the Iranians and Russians on their north. I do believe the Saudis DO NOT trust the US to come to their aid and are hedging their bets by playing nice to the Egyptians (Russians). I’m wondering if the Saudis being elected to the UN Human Rights Council (a walking, talking oxymoron) hasn’t helped in turning the Saudis? Along with the Saudis, Russia, China and Cuba were elected and will undoubtedly help the Saudis blunt the constant US criticism of the Wahabist treatment of…well…everyone?

So now we’ll have Russian and Iranians almost completing an encirclement of a large chunk US oil supplies in the Gulf (not to mention our CENTCOM’s forward headquarters in Qatar and operational theater in the Arabian peninsula) and I’ll look soon for Russia to start making moves into US sub-Saharan oil sources. Geez, POtuS, your actions in helping the US get its ass kicked out of the Mideast seems to be the long way round to force the US into a green energy mode.

There’s another thing bothering me – back in the Bush II era the Iranians were trying to establish an oil bourse that would replace the US dollar as the standard for oil prices. It didn’t really get anywhere until 2011 (Obama era) when it opened on Kish Island. They value oil there in a market basket of currencies other than the US dollar, and where it hasn’t replaced the US Mercantile Exchange hopes are that it will dent the hell out of it in the near future. Iran has also called for the creation of the Petrochemical Exporting Countries Forum, which would include Iran, Saudi Arabia, UAE. Qatar, Turkey and – here it comes – Russia. The idea seems to be to replace the US as the main player in the world’s oil trade, lock up the Mideast’s oil in an Iranian led cartel and make the US dance to their song. The turning point seems to be Russia’s playing in the game – it not only has huge oil and gas reverses itself but the military power to back up Iran’s play. Perfect payback for the US’s active work in destroying the USSR. This not only gets the other Mideast oil suppliers to play ball with the Iranians, does it without a direct military threat to them and sweetens the pot by giving them a locally controlled bourse that will be able to call its own prices. In the meantime the West cannot get oil out of the Gulf without having to pass Russian checkpoints in the northern Red Sea and eastern Med or an Iranian chokepoint at the throat of the Gulf – our oil supply’s surrounded.

In the eastern Med the Russians, with the Syrian’s and Egyptian’s help, will control traffic there and neutralize Turkey by having yet more Gulf and Russian petro transfer lines going through it. Europe’s in the bag as most of the product in those lines will be going to the EU, routed through – Syria and Turkey. So here we are, possibly looking at the Forces of Darkness sitting on top of a majority of the West’s oil supply and not a lot we can do about it as our ‘friends’ now see more of a benefit in not being out friends. If I’m right the POtuS in just under five years may have undone over 60 years of US work in the Mideast, out capitalisted by an ex-communist. I do hope I’m wrong.

Source: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/11/13/wed nesday-open-thread-november-13th/




I would add: The President has sure seemed extra-flexible, both domestically and abroad, since his reelection...



http://youtu.be/Py8BF0hHPnc



Cue City saying "I f'n told you so" in 3...2...1...

; )
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is a reason I was called back to Ft Bliss two weeks ago to 'recertify' my Language.....
I have been OUT for 10 years.

Russian / Soviet Intelligence Analyst
Russian Linguist Cat III
Russian Interrogator
EPW/IPW Certified (enemy prisoner of war certification for running and administering registration to refugee camps)

And yes- I am assuming that we will be in the shiat of it soon enough; by June of 2014 sounds about right;
and the collapse of the dollar by 2016-7 is right on schedule
look for the elections to be suspended due to state of 'emergency'

And of course a good ratcheting down of domestic freedoms and the imposition of a Martial Law solution - you know - for your own protection.

in the words of the Joker

And Here We Go.....


(FIFTYS - F*ck, I F*ckn Told You So)
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some of you voted for this idiot who is now the lackey of the worst president in American history.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what happens to credit/billing/paychecks during martial law? Rent, car payments, utilities...etc etc... will there be a load of soup kitchens opening up for food?

Or do we have to impose martial law before we find out what's in it?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your idea of ownership of property, money, accounts and credit rating is out dated Komrade, you have been brainwashed by the evils of Capitalism -
The State will Provide
From Every according to their 'need'
To Each according to the 'duty'.

(the original Lenin quote on 'equality')

but of course - remember some animals are more equal than others.

(PS - I would not hold any money in any FED account - the ACA already gives the IRS the ability to lien, seize, freeze and confiscate those accounts for fines, penalties, interest and 'premiums' against the new Exchange policies - wait and see; watch and learn)
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reindog, this ties in nicely with your political cartoon. There's a ton of further study material in this one:

quote:

John Kerry and the Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Week in Diplomacy
David Gerstman Tuesday, November 12, 2013

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/11/john-kerry-an d-the-horrible-no-good-very-bad-week-in-diplomacy/


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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)






You know it's bad when you have Bill Clinton lecturing you about keeping your commitments.










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Macbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Umm ... what is that bottom picture?
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, he's funny that way!





Not that there's anything wrong with that!
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Please, for love of all that is holy, tell me that's fake.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nope.
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