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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Part of the problem with the "Tea Party" is that there isn't one. At least not ONE official one. That leave a lot of ambiguity that the media has been more than happy to try to fill in with negative emotion, but lacking fact. I recently had a friend mention that he really didn't know what the Tea Party is all about. This guy has a mother, father, brother, and sister who are all part of a local tea party group. He also has a sister-in-law running for office as part of that group. WHAT THE HELL! Take you head out of the sand and find out what your freaking family is up to! Of course he has a wife who is an SEIU member.
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wolfie, another one for your consideration:

quote:

Look to Cruz, Not to Christie
By George Neumayr on 11.6.13

...The breathless burbling about how Chris Christie’s victory “shows the path forward for the GOP” conveniently ignores his inability to turn New Jersey red for anyone but himself. Before election day, the New Jersey media didn’t see any reason for the Dems to worry about a Christie victory, as they enjoy a 48-32 majority in the Assembly and a 24-16 lead in the state Senate. While these numbers may change, early reports indicate most incumbents will be reelected. The New Jersey media reported that most polls indicate support for Christie won’t help any down-ballot Republicans. In 2009, Christie’s coat-tail effect was negligible too, resulting in only one new Assembly seat for the Republicans.

Like Schwarzenegger, Christie is a useful idiot for the Democrats—a needy, politically correct, ruling-class Republican who is trending liberal on everything from “climate change” to gay marriage to size-of-government issues. Christie loves the liberal limelight—a trait that will only intensify over time. The Democrats know a Trojan Horse when they see one.



Source, more: http://spectator.org/archives/2013/11/06/look-to-c ruz-not-to-christie
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Macbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Republican answer shouldn't be Christie but it shouldn't be Cruz either. Cruz is too polarizing. I know the Tea Partly loves him but he wouldn't win and winning should be the most important factor. The Republicans always cut off their nose to spite their face and this would be just another example.

I'm hoping for Bobby Jindal or someone more like that. Maybe Nikki Haley.
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cruz is "polarizing" because the media, at the request of frightened Democrats and Republicans, demonizes him at every opportunity.

Imagine this: Imagine if our mainstream media wasn't corrupt, and imagine if instead of demonizing someone like Cruz (or Palin), imagine if the media EMBRACED this person and their ideals, and demonized corrupt politicians instead. It wouldn't take long for someone like Cruz to be elected President (it could easily happen by '16), in what would likely be a landslide of epic proportions.

The media is EVERYTHING. So said Andrew Breitbart. RIP.

Cruz is right on the money, IMO. Which, sadly, probably means he'll never be our President.
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This doesn't sound "polarizing" to me:

quote:

“I think we ought to be relentlessly, tirelessly, exclusively, focused on growth because every other priority we have depends on growth. If you want to turn around unemployment, you need growth. If you want to turn around the deficit and the debt, you’ve got to have growth. If you want to save Social Security and Medicare going forward, you’ve got to have growth. If you want to maintain the strongest military in the world to protect our national security, you’ve got to have growth.”

“How did Reagan win the Cold War? He won the Cold War, number one by standing up to the Soviet Union, but number two by unleashing economic growth that bankrupted the Soviet Union when they tried to keep up with us. When our economy is moving, no one can keep up with us. So I’m going to submit to you: Our first priority should be growth.”

“We did [a roundtable] in Kerrville about two months ago, a little town in central Texas with about 20 small business owners…One after another, each of the business owners went around and said that, ‘the single biggest obstacle that my business is facing is Obamacare.’ One after another! The fellow in whose restaurant we were meeting, he said, ‘Listen, I’ve got a great opportunity to expand this business, double the size of the business, and hire new people. We’ve got between 30 and 40 employees. If we expand we break the threshold of 50 employees, we’re subject to Obamacare. And that will drive us out of business. So you know what, we’re not expending. We are not hiring.’” Four or five of the business owners going around the table said the same thing. They were between 30 and 40 employees, and they decided not to expand, not to hire new people. Think of all the millions of small businesses across the country that are making that same decision right now. Two-thirds of all new jobs in our economy come from small business, and they’re making that decision all of the country: to stay at 30 and 40 employees and not cross the 50 employee threshold.

“There is a reason that President Obama and Harry Reid both say Obamacare is designed inevitably to lead to single-payer socialized government health care. Because when it collapses, it’s designed to destroy the private insurance market at the same time. And once that happens, you can’t unscramble those eggs.”

“There’s a lot of talk in Washington that Republicans need a ‘rebranding.’ Listen, we’re not selling soap. We don’t need a rebranding, we need to focus our energies on those who are struggling and the policies that make it possible to achieve the American dream.”

“Right now reminds me very, very much of the late 1970s when we had terrible economic conditions, out-of-control taxes, and spending—no economic growth, a feckless foreign policy. And what it took to turn this country around was the Reagan revolution that a lot of the men and women of this room bear the scars from fighting—a grassroots revolution across this country of the American people standing up and saying, ‘There is another way.’ We can get back to our free market principles, our constitutional principles, that are the foundation of this nation. That’s what we need to do. That’s what Bob Bartley argued so passionately for on the pages of the Journal. That’s what Bob Tyrrell has fought for so many years. And that’s why every one of us is here today: because we believe in freedom, we believe in the power of free markets. And we understand that freedom works: It’s the greatest engine of prosperity and opportunity the world has ever seen.”

- Ted Cruz, 10/23/2013 [excerpted from video below]



Source, more: http://spectator.org/archives/2013/11/06/ted-cruz- there-is-another-way




http://youtu.be/GTVFYFhKSGE
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Republicans always cut off their nose to spite their face and this would be just another example.

I hear that all the time, but never see the example of that (we're talking Presidential elections, right). The closest to that in my lifetime would be Reagan, and that turned out VERY well. Romney was claimed to be the extremist, but he was far from that. He was a centrist Governor from a left leaning state that was liked pretty well by both sides. I guess the closest thing would be McCain picking Palin as his VP pick, but the top slot was still a RINO. We need another Regan. Romney might be the closest we've seen.
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Macbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the Republicans want to win they have to get the Independent voter and still energize their base. It's a tough task. I could be wrong but I don't think Cruz will get the independent voter.
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Two_seasons
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First off Paul, you douche bag, why are you sugercoating your post You're the kind that votes for the Kennedy types and then call them moderates! You're pathetic

Further, Paul, you're the type that blows, with the wind of course, about your thoughts on the tea party, here on BadWeb.

Be honest for a change Paul...call us tea party members what you really think...go ahead, do it!

I'm really surprised you haven't mentioned W yet
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Macbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It happened in 2012. Republicans stayed home and refused to vote for Romney. Why? I don't know. Because he wasn't conservative enough? Because he was a Mormon? But, in the end, less republicans came out and voted in 2012 than in 2008 and that was the difference in the election. And sitting out the election allowed Obaam to win. I'm still pissed about that. How dumb can these people be. They'd rather vote for no one and allow Obama to win because Romney didn't fit their ideal profile. Shortsighted and stupid.

But that is what I mean. Republicans need to stop beating each other up and focus on finding a candidate that can win the election. End of story.

(Message edited by macbuell on November 06, 2013)
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree, it's a problem and I'm not sure of the solution. I'm convinced the problem is with the people, not the candidates. A big part of the people is that they are media lemmings, easily lead. I guess it's hard to be popular with the message of honesty that if you are a taxpayer in the US you owe about $150,000 in federal debt with about $1,100,000 in additional unfunded liabilities and we have to get this under control. Especially when that message goes up against "we'll give you free shit". This is the ultimate fate of democracies. Our founders gave us one of the best frameworks the world has ever seen, and it did extremely well for longer than most. I just don't know what you do when each and every tax payer owes $1.25 million on top of what's actually needed to run the necessary parts of government.

Can you pay YOU'RE part?
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

two_seasons:

Please ingest a stress tab instead of insulting others who don't think like you. The goal is to educate, not emoticate. We will "win" people to the Conservative viewpoint over time, to paraphrase Churchill, "when they run out of all other options."
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Virginia was a combination of the Rove Republicans ( rich scum ) hating the R. candidate. The Obama & Clinton D's ( rich scum & rich scum ) giving massive support to a Clinton D ( rich scum ) candidate. Plus 30+ million dollars....... And the Obama Democrats ( rich scum ) giving money to a third party candidate ( Libertarian ) to split the vote.

Worked like a champ.

I don't know any of the personalities involved, except the winner, who can be described as scum if you are being real nice. And lying a bit.

Sorry Virginians. Looks like you better get ready to move.

As far as the tea party bitching goes, Do you know what the tea party stands for?

No one else does either since it is NOT a national party with actual leaders and such, so the Media has declared the Tea Party to be the New Goldstein, and has employed the 2 minute hate. ( and if you haven't read 1984, why are you even wasting my time with your ignorance? )

Last I looked it was a bunch of fiscal conservatives who wanted to stop the insanity of doubling the debt every few years, and wanted to get some power back to the people, THEN argue over social shit.

Naturally the Media claims the TP are social nutjobs who want to kill women.

The problem as I see it, Macbuell, is that the Republican Party is run by rich scum like McCain, who really don't want the new folk, especially fiscal conservatives, to upset their apple cart. Since the D leadership is now hard core Soviets, pretty much the only hope is to destroy the R Party and rebuild it with smart fiscal conservatives, but with a loud social libertarian bend. Good luck with that.

I agree the Party Leadership are &^(*^(&%(*%)_&*^(^()*&%(&^$%$&^%*&%*^%*(&%.

That's how we got Dole. ( it was his turn )McCain was more a ploy by the Obama Campaign to have an opponent that was easy to beat. ( worked great! ) Romney we can blame the R leaders and Obama Campaign for since they destroyed in Chicago style with lies and sex the Only R candidate with a chance. ( Cain )

I know this isn't about Obama, but it is about tyranny.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/11/05/man -seeks-millions-after-nm-police-force-colonoscopy- in-drug-search

The cops don't like him. The dog barked at his truck seat. They got a warrant to search his butt. The hospital they took him to said "no, that's unethical" so they took him across county lines to a "doc in a box" and had him x-rayed. Clean. the doc searched, by hand. No drugs. They gave him an enema, and made him defecate with police and doc watching. Clean.

2 MORE enemas, more fist action, another xray, and a freaking colonoscopy, and still no drugs, all the way up.

Then they bill him $6000 dollars for medical procedures done illegally ( there is a Supreme Court decision about a far less nasty case ) in the wrong county, and surprise, surprise, he's suing.

I wish him all the luck, and a really pissed off jury.

I'd be in jail at this point for burning down the police station........ once I could walk again.
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Better call Saul".
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry Virginians. Looks like you better get ready to move.

Me 'n D have discussed this very topic today, and we will continue where we left off tomorrow. Trouble this way comes.

This was e-mailed to me by a conservative buddy today; I haven't had time to read it yet:

http://www.infowars.com/democrat-win-in-virginia-s ignals-new-attack-on-second-amendment/

Without having yet read the piece, I already know it's true.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oldog, this one's for you, amigo. : )



http://youtu.be/5BOYJJSQQO4
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Chauly
Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I heard this Ed Koch quote the other day:

"The voters have spoken, and now they must be punished!"

I will NOT move and abandon Virginia. We've survived Robb, Warner, Kaine, Wilder; we'll survive McCauliffe. There's a really good reason that we only allow one term for Governor: We only have to hold our nose for four years!
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pretty quiet around these parts lately from the Badweb Obama Support Team. Let's let your hero speak:
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The voters have spoken, and now they must be punished!"
New York City just elected a mayor who is a Communist that illegally went to Cuba as well as worked in Nicaragua to actively support the Sandinistas. NYC will most likely begin reverting back to the seventies when it faced bankruptcy, record murders, and squeegee guys. Court might have to move to Connecticut and become a schnook. Froggy too, except I think he already is a bridge and tunnel guy.

His first act in office will be to rename New York City to New Havana City.

Idiots. You truly are about to get what you deserve.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Pretty quiet around these parts lately from the Badweb Obama Support Team.

Anybody who voted for this guy has got to feel disillusioned and embarrassed.

I'm sure . . when they bought into those lines . . .that they saw, in their hearts "Hope and Change".

It wasn't until he started lying . . then lying more . . then lying more that support began to ebb. Democrats in Congress are even beginning to flee the ship.

I was sorry today to see him having to dole out another $600,000,000 to keep the unions from abandoning him but I'm betting that won't stand.

We, as conservatives, need to prepare welcome our new friends as more and more of these lies, false promises and trickery are exposed and the light of truth begins to clear their minds.
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Two_seasons
Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reindog, not buying your logic when it comes to moderates.
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

two_seasons:
Explain please.
I hope I was clear that denigrating people will not exactly welcome them nor entice them into our tent. Conservatives have the winning argument backed with logic and facts. Not everyone has awoken to this fact yet so it is better to help them rather than emoticate them.
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Still waiting for your response, Paul_regan.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It wasn't until he started lying . . then lying more . . then lying more that support began to ebb. Democrats in Congress are even beginning to flee the ship.

Have you seen his latest Gallup "approval/disapproval" numbers? Underwater is putting it mildly.

On his present trajectory, he should be arriving at the bottom of the Mariana Trench just in time for Christmas...
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found this to be an interesting read. Opinion laced with facts, take it as such. I don't agree 100%, but he makes some points that I think are worth pondering. I'm guessing the hard left can simply ignore the whole thing. Enjoy...

Is America Being Deliberately Pushed Toward Civil War?

In 2009, Jim Rickards, a lawyer, investment banker and adviser on capital markets to the Director of National Intelligence and the Office of the Secretary of Defense, participated in a secret war game sponsored by the Pentagon at the Applied Physics Laboratory (APL). The game’s objective was to simulate and explore the potential outcomes and effects of a global financial war. At the end of the war game, the Pentagon concluded that the U.S. dollar was at extreme risk of devaluation and collapse in the near term, triggered either by a default of the U.S. Treasury and the dumping of bonds by foreign investors or by hyperinflation by the private Federal Reserve.

These revelations, later exposed by Rickards, were interesting not because they were “new” or “shocking.” Rather, they were interesting because many of us in the field of alternative economics had ALREADY predicted the same outcome for the American financial system years before the APL decided to entertain the notion. At least, that is what the public record indicates.

The idea that our government has indeed run economic collapse scenarios, found the United States in mortal danger, and done absolutely nothing to fix the problem is bad enough. I have my doubts, however, that the Pentagon or partnered private think tanks like the RAND Corporation did not run scenarios on dollar collapse long before 2009. In fact, I believe there is much evidence to suggest that the military industrial complex has not only been aware of the fiscal weaknesses of the U.S. system for decades, but they have also been actively engaged in exploiting those weaknesses in order to manipulate the American public with fears of cultural catastrophe.

History teaches us that most economic crisis events are followed or preceded immediately by international or domestic conflict. War is the looming shadow behind nearly all fiscal disasters. I suspect that numerous corporate think tanks and the Department Of Defense are perfectly aware of this relationship and have war gamed such events as well. Internal strife and civil war are often natural side effects of economic despair within any population.

Has a second civil war been “gamed” by our government? And are Americans being swindled into fighting and killing each other while the banksters who created the mess observe at their leisure, waiting until the dust settles to return to the scene and collect their prize? Here are some examples of how both sides of the false left/right paradigm are being goaded into turning on each other.
More...
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)















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Two_seasons
Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reindog, these so called "moderates" are nothing more than fence sitters waiting for whichever candidate offers them more "free stuff" than the other guy/gal.

Tired of it. They won't come over cause you have the likes of John and Lindsay making sure that the illegals et al, are the new voting block that keeps the lefties as the established ruling class.

Most of the R's in congress aren't any more than the lefties "trading partners" behind closed doors!

Enough said.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...the likes of John and Lindsay making sure that the illegals et al, are the new voting block that keeps the lefties as the established ruling class.

Have you seen the evidence to suggest that 0bamaDontCare is, at least in large part, a way to register new (Democrat) voters? Not sure if it's been discussed in this thread; it's hard to keep up with our president these days. So many fires to put out, so little time...
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Strokizator
Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is America Being Deliberately Pushed Toward Civil War?

If at first you don't secede, try, try again.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wondered when it would come to this:

ESPN Commentator: National Anthem a 'War Anthem,' Shouldn't Be Played Before Games
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/11/07 /ESPN-commentator-war-anthem

Trouble this way comes...
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