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Garryb
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, last comment.

No matter how hard you try to talk America down, this country is on a very exciting path.

We are on our way to be gas and oil independent.

The stock market is at all time highs, US US car makers cars are selling lots of cars.

The housing market is strong.

Boeing is selling lots of jets

Apple , Microsoft, IBM are all continuing grow.

Buell is reemerging with great new bikes.

And two years from now when the dust settles, millions of Americans will have insurance who didn't have it before, and the crazy inflation in healthcare costs will be reduced or even going the other way.

And all this will continue no matter how hard your try to block, deny or talk down this country.

And guess what, immigration reform will happen and you will be the minority and America will thrive without you.

Obama may have misspoke on issues, but Bush lied about WMDS and the justification for shock and Awe, and the way history will treat the war in Iraq, will make Obama the one who saved this country from being a third rate nation.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Garryb, you are quite the Obama apologist.

You seem to be very hung up on the Iraq war thing claiming Bush lied, yada, yada, yada. I'm just curious though, what are your thoughts about Obama bombing Libya? I'd really be interested in your opinion on if this was the right thing to do ANY WHY.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is kind of a painful video to watch, but it is what it's like having a conversation with a real Kool-Aid drinker. It's hard to tell if they believe what they say, or if they are just such easy liars. I just find it kind of unbelievable that they can really manage to shelter themselves enough from the truth to actually hold these beliefs. What's that leave?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/30/megyn-k ellys-extremely-frustrating-obamacare-interview-wi th-dem-congressman-but-15-million-people-did-buy-i t/
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Garryb
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo, first of all, its the prior administration that almost destroyed the whole worlds economic stability.

That make it relevant.

Also I got creamed by the depression Bush created and glad to get my 401k back up.

If you are hung up on the national debt and the future of America, why would you want to spend billions on a country that has been a sworn enemy of America instead of focusing on domestic issues?

Which of the last wars, Korea? Vietnam, Iraq 1&2 etc do you think was a good investment in American lives and money?

Why do you think more war in the middle east will work out better, especially if you don't have confidence in Obama?

It sure looks like our dependence on the middle east is waning.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>The stock market is at all time highs, US US car makers cars are selling lots of cars.

Boy . . you've got to do better than that. The stock market, little wonder, is at record highs. If I borrowed trillions of $$$ from the Chinese and dumped it in your bank account . . it, too, would be at an all time high.

I'm realize I'm handicapped by having a degree in Economics but be mindful of what makes the stock market move.

Also . . be mindful I'm paying $4.00 a gallon for the same gas I was paying $1.83 for when Obama arrived on the scene.

I agree with you about Bush. What it has to do with the is argument, beyond the "my dad can whip your dad", eluded me. Obama . . for the record . . has started more wars than Bush.

History . . . I'd wager . . will view Obama on par with Katrina in terms of disasters which have befallen this great nation.

Couple quick questions . .

1) How many folks who haven't previously had insurance have gotten it in the last month?

2) How many people, as a direct result of Obamacare have had their perfectly good insurance cancelled?

3) What is the average savings (hint: it's negative) of the few (HHS wisely tells us they don't have the numbers) who have signed up?

I'll use the same word Kathleen Sebelius (at the suggesting of the walrus seated behind and to her left) used . . DEBACLE.

As good fortune would have it . . .it appears some democrats are preparing to jump the aisle.

Court
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Garryb
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Even the Kochs wealth has tripled under Obama
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"And two years from now when the dust settles, millions of Americans will have insurance who didn't have it before, and the crazy inflation in healthcare costs will be reduced or even going the other way."

With respect of course: That's only a remote possibility quote. Highly questionable and at the cost of other patriotic hard working Americans. Costs are already rising considerably for most.

"And all this will continue no matter how hard your try to block, deny or talk down this country."

Completely false. No conservative here is talking down the country. If anything we're talking down and discrediting a totally corrupt, dishonest and lying president. Unlike any that has proceeded him. And if you are not aware he's already loosing favor with many Americans and even many liberal democrats. Get ready for the demise of liberalism in this country for a long time to come. People are wising up!
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo, first of all, its the prior administration that almost destroyed the whole worlds economic stability.

That make it relevant.

Also I got creamed by the depression Bush created and glad to get my 401k back up.

If you are hung up on the national debt and the future of America, why would you want to spend billions on a country that has been a sworn enemy of America instead of focusing on domestic issues?

Which of the last wars, Korea? Vietnam, Iraq 1&2 etc do you think was a good investment in American lives and money?

Why do you think more war in the middle east will work out better, especially if you don't have confidence in Obama?

It sure looks like our dependence on the middle east is waning.


Was that a response to my question about Libya?
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Garryb
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,

Seems better than borrowing the money for a war in Iraq. I like seeing the money spread around, not just Halliburton and Blackwater.

And its not just the stock market that's up, its all the companies in it. He brought the economy back, why is that a bad thing?

Why do you insist on talking the county down?

How about we do what you always recommend; follow the money and see who's trying to spin us?
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We are on our way to be gas and oil independent.

The stock market is at all time highs,

US car makers cars are selling lots of cars.

{both are subject to change with out notice.}

The housing market is strong.



} not here it aint! The house next to mine sat EMPTY for a YEAR ....
and in '09 I had 10K of equity, now I am just under water


And two years from now when the dust settles, millions of Americans will have insurance who didn't have it before, and the crazy inflation in healthcare costs will be reduced or even going the other way.


How about they start here,
I lost MY health insurance less than a year ago, I wound up in the state pool, loose that end of the year...

AND ON A PERSONAL NOTE:

I AM NOT PUTTING CONFIDENTIAL INFO ON A WEB SITE THAT HAS MORE SECURITY HOLES THAN A BLOCK OF SWISS CHEESE...

And all this will continue no matter how hard your try to block, deny or talk down this country.

The facts in the matters speak for them selves your comments seem to be supposition from my perspective }
And guess what, immigration reform will happen and you will be the minority and America will thrive without you.

what reform?
the "Take the wealth and spread it around" reform,

last time I checked it failed in various places in the world, I will site Cuba to be brief.

as far as being a minority I would welcome that then perhaps the field may be a little more level for opportunities.

I seem to be too OLD, the wrong sex, color and ethnicity to be granted some opportunities.

so yes bring it.

but for your consideration think on this
mr obama said in a debate with hillary that he would fine the parents of children with out health insurance for the kids,

so ponder this,
if they are having trouble paying rent/mortgage, there are no luxuries, and there is no extra money for insurance were the hell do they get money for the fine?

I have been there from my perspective,

The president is an incompetent lying criminal, who is surrounded by much of the same.

Your mis information seems to bear me out

"You can keep your doctor", not if I can't afford him,

In places I have been I here in the us, I have had to pay cash from my own pocket for care, even in the state pool the deductible is so high that I basically pay for the insurance AND the service. So how have I been benefited again?

My insurance used to be free to me ( my employer could afford to provide it to me, not any more )

on a personal note, its no longer Bush's fault,
five years in and things are getting worse..
five years in and we have the following scandals

solyndra and other defaulted loans
fast and furious, 1 border patrol agent and hundreds of mexican citizens dead
health care debacle ( see above )
stalled economy
falsified reports from the government ( unemployment numbers )
skyrocketing debits
the IRS scandals
our people killed in Benghazi
the administration caught in lying on Benghazi
the admin stone walling on all investigations


Oh there most certainly is transparency with this admin, they are clearly corrupt, incompetent, and politically motivated.

please if you have answers garryb for the questions related to the listed scandals please speak up

(Message edited by oldog on October 31, 2013)
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Garryb
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Uncle!

I give
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, really, was your response to my question about Libya? I'm just wondering, because it seemed to have nothing to do with Libya.
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Garryb
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, last comment.

Sifo, your right, got cranked up again, and thought you Syria.

which is why I need to spend more time on my bike and not post here.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Why do you insist on talking the county down?

I am not talking this country down. Like you, I am a military veteran and an entrepreneur with a ton of fun awards. I live and breath capitalism.

I don't want this country, as we turn into a welfare, as we approach 50% of our population getting "free stuff".

I look at Detroit . . that once great city and cry.

GM is still in bankruptcy . . .selling more cars, granted, but still on a "Cash IV" consisting of $$ from the Chinese.

GM's stock is, today, at $37.50. It's got to hit $53+ in order to payback the federal infusion of cash.

Like your's , , , , the portion of my 46 years of accumulated retirement savings in 401K's has skyrocketed. It creates the appearance of making retirement (most my friends went last year) look easy,

But . . .as a guy who had over $100,000 in medical bills the last 2 months . . .when I look at this Obamacare debacle (using the HHS Secretary's words) I want to cry.

I've kind of opted out . . . I can avoid some of the perils. 99% of America however is stuck.

Not until we return self-reliance and personal pride to where it once was can we hope to regain our stature. We need to end to era of folks (less than 50% graduate from high school in this city) graduating with their only dream getting a free cell phone.

It's kind of a shame.

Court

P.S. - I do truly appreciate you hanging in there and participating in this conversation. I'm familiar with your business and have great respect for what YOU have done. I have less for those who expect someone to give them something.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, last comment.

Sifo, your right, got cranked up again, and thought you Syria.

which is why I need to spend more time on my bike and not post here.


So you won't answer the question then. Gotcha!
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Court
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>which is why I need to spend more time on my bike and not post here.

That's fine . . . but it sounds like you are running from the truth, not toward the bike.

If you're riding . . .hoping to outrun the facts. . . .your bike ain't fast enough.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, It's kind of like that video I posted.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, I'm just pondering... After the testimony of Sebelius in front of Congress, is it even possible to get fired in this administration?
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Court
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> is it even possible to get fired in this administration?

Finally . . . a question that can be answered with that elusive "its a yes or a no" folks have been begging for the last couple weeks.

The answer is NO.

Incompetence is the norm and is rewarded.

However . . those poor folks who witnessed what actually happened in Benghazi have been threatened with legal action and if they so much as breath a word.

The truth will eventually come out and we'll get to judge this administration.

Not one of them would last a week in the private sector.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know that if I were a big shot leader, public, or private and the person that I put in charge of the signature achievement of my lifetime, who had three years to put together a simple website, and hundreds of millions of dollars to spend on it, didn't test it before putting it up live, and didn't warn me that it may not work, I would be pissed off beyond belief. Sorry for the run on sentence.

How does this even happen? In history it tends to happen with a tyrannical leader who does unspeakable things to the messenger with bad news. pResident POS doesn't have a reputation for firing people though. In fact they tend to fail UP. That may explain it actually, when you reward failure. This is failure on a monumental scale! I've seen complicated software fail on roll out. I've never seen a roll out of critical software that isn't fixed in days, much less a month later. This isn't even a complicated piece of software! It gathers information typed in by the user and passes it to a third party based on what state they live in. It then displays the information given back by the third party. 100 to 1 odds that the third parties had to meet the standards of ObamaDontCare. I guess it does have to also search some look up tables based on the user provided information to determine the size of the free load of shit to be spread on top. Where's the complexity in this?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You CAN get fired in this administration.
He has relieved the command of the last THREE Generals that have been in charge of Strategic Nuclear Arms ......
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why do you insist on talking the county down?
Hey, I like San Diego! ; )

The irony of your question hails back the Sixties when the Right used to say "Love it or leave it." and "My country right or wrong." This was used to squelch the valid dissent of the Left.

Now here we are. A member of the Left asks "Why do you insist on talking the country [spelling mine] down?".

There hasn't been a single poster here putting America down. We protest a mendacious president who is unfit for the job.

Hang in there, garryb. You have the cajones to post where other Leftists merely lurk.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The world according to... Well someone around here...


When Obama was three years old he rode his bicycle across the street and saw terrible injustices along the way. They made him want to unseat George W. Bush and become the first People's President of the United States.

When Obama was five he fixed Social Security, but George W. Bush broke it again on purpose.

In first grade Obama wrote a school essay on how to help the downtrodden. As soon as George W. Bush heard about it, he ordered to shred Obama's essay into tiny pieces before the downtrodden could read it.

In second grade Obama developed a concrete plan to save the children. When George W. Bush heard about it, he killed the children and exiled Obama's family to Hawaii because Bush hated the children.

George W. Bush deliberately added "Hussein" to Obama's name on all official records, hoping that it would traumatize young Obama psychologically and stigmatize him for life.

When Obama gained control of the Good Forces of the Universe, George W. Bush locked him in a tower with an iron mask over his head to prevent a telepathic contact with the Force. But Bill Ayers received the signal, blew up Bush's tower and liberated Obama.

In college Obama majored in hypnotism and minored in white and black arts. That's why George W. Bush couldn't catch him ever again.

Obama statues decorate all progressive capitals of the world. George W. Bush became jealous and stole one such statue, hoping to melt it and use the metal to make world's strongest cannon to kill women and children. But Obama's statue destroyed the furnace and made its way to freedom. Nobody knows where it is now, but the rumor is that it is fighting for the rights of the downtrodden all over the planet. Al Qaeda wants to capture the statue and turn it into an indestructible suicide bomber. If they ever succeed, it will be George W. Bush's fault.

Obama wrote the United States Constitution that gave all power to the downtrodden, but George W. Bush replaced it with a version that gives all power to corporations.

Bush can't destroy the original Constitution because Obama's handwriting is indestructible. That's why Bush is hiding it in a lead container at the bottom of the Potomac River. If you find and open the container, all power in the land will at once return to the downtrodden.
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Iamike
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gary,
To be a lie, you have to know your information is false.

Bush made his claims with the best intelligence that was available. (And there is a good chance the WMD was there but snuck out of the country).

Obama knew his health care claims were false, but continued to make them. Obama knew the story about Beghazi was due to a Youtube video was false, but continued to make them. Need I go on?

But then in a liberal world the rules of right and wrong are all screwed up anyway. How can you justify partial-birth abortion?
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Progressive Government Fails
Obama's ideology is the politics of the personal cram down. By DANIEL HENNINGER

quote:

Excerpts:
A reader remarked last week that Barack Obama is running out of human shields. With the father of ObamaCare unavailable to explain the greatest fiasco of his presidency to Congress, the American people had to settle Wednesday for his surrogate, Kathleen Sebelius.

Let us try to understand clearly what is happening now with the Obama presidency. On display to everyone watching this week is not merely the failure of a federal website or a software program or Ms. Sebelius's management skills. This is the failure of the very idea of progressive government. Not liberal government. Progressive government.

...

Barack Obama may have spent a lifetime failing up, but eventually it's just failure. He has presided over five years of sickly economic growth, inadequate job creation, a doubling of the food stamp population and now this—ObamaCare.

Progressive government has failed in the U.S. Most fascinating to behold will be whether the Democratic presidential candidate who follows this meltdown will embrace it, fake it or move on.




http://online.wsj.com/article/wonder_land.html?dsk =y
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Court
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>The irony of your question hails back the Sixties when the Right used to say "Love it or leave it." and "My country right or wrong." This was used to squelch the valid dissent of the Left.

I remember seeing those folks holding the signs on my way to the United States Marine Corps recruiting center.

Talk is cheap.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the laugh, Gary
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the further irony is that the Left and Hippies that all said 'Trust no-one over 35' are all firmly well past that prime; and are now the 'Man' .... and look at the mess they have made.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Conservatives are presently being denounced - in loud, shrill, hateful voices - as racists by the left. It'd be funny, if it wasn't so vile, heinous and pathetic.

And so untrue.

I came across this interview of Senator Tim Scott (R-SC) a few moments ago while soaking up news and current events at The American Spectator. They just published this interview today, and it's fascinating and enjoyable.

Mr. Scott, in my opinion, has all the makings of being a great American president at some point down the political road. If he ever gets that opportunity, and if I'm still alive to see it, he'd have my support, and my vote.

Contrast Mr. Scott's words, life experiences and values with those of our present president, and see if you don't agree: THIS is what an American president should sound like.

quote:

Great Scott!
South Carolina’s junior senator on race, education, and growin’ up po’.

By Kyle Peterson, The American Spectator, October 2013

Tim Scott is not a type-A personality, which makes interviewing him an interesting experience. So many members of Congress lean forward in their chairs, spit words forcefully and rapidly, shuffle in late and then duck out early, headed toward the next vote, the next speech, the next fundraiser.





Scott leans back in his chair, legs crossed, hands folded. He’s a master of the deadpan delivery, so his jokes are all the funnier in that they arrive unannounced. He speaks leisurely and thoughtfully, as if imparting hard-earned wisdom or sharing a story over a cup of hot cocoa. And Scott does have a story to tell—which starts, as he says, with growin’ up po’.

“Not poor, po’. Could not afford the O-R,” he says, flashing his trademark grin, the one so broad it shows the gums above his top teeth. “I smile now, but I wasn’t smiling then.” After her divorce, Scott’s mother moved the family into her parents’ two-bedroom, one-bathroom house. His grandparents shared one bedroom, and he, his mother, and his brother shared the other. “It was hard times but it was great times, because one of the things that my grandmother did was she filled the house with love and discipline.”

But by high school, he was struggling, failing four classes at once, and, by his own account, more interested in football than academics. “Growing up in North Charleston in a single-parent household, I’ll tell you that—for me—it seemed like the only way out of poverty for a kid like me was either athletics or entertainment,” Scott says. “There weren’t any other options.”

It was a Chick-Fil-A franchisee named John Moniz who showed him how to think his way out of poverty. Scott would buy French fries at the restaurant (“because he had some really cute girls that worked there,” he explains). Moniz took an interest in the young man; the two struck up a conversation, then another. Scott says Moniz changed his worldview. Instead of seeing problems as external and out of his control, he began to seek solutions within himself.

There’s a bit of Christian self-help about the way Scott speaks. Moniz had introduced him to the work of Zig Ziglar, and in a speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference earlier this year, he quoted John C. Maxwell. Scott says things like, “You can be a victim or a victor,” and “When you find your ‘why,’ you find your way.”

Moniz died of a blood clot in 1985, at the age of 37. Scott was just 19, and he vowed to honor Moniz’s memory with the way he lived his life. The day before the funeral, he drafted a personal mission statement: to positively impact a billion people with a message of hope and financial responsibility. He wrote it down in blue ink on a three-by-five notecard. He still has it.



[http://youtu.be/FEqniW31am4]


After taking a degree in political science at Charleston Southern University, Scott got into the insurance business. He built his own Allstate agency from the ground up—selling the whole portfolio: auto, life, health, property, casualty, home, renter’s—that, at its peak, employed about eight people.

Scott’s first foray into public life came in 1995, when he ran for and was elected to Charleston County Council. He made headlines shortly thereafter when he led the council in posting a plaque of the Ten Commandments outside its chambers, knowing full well that a costly lawsuit likely lay in store. “I wouldn’t say money is not a concern, but it costs more for us not to have a moral compass,” Scott told the Associated Press at the time. After a battle with the ACLU, a circuit judge ruled the move unconstitutional and ordered the plaque removed, but Scott clearly hasn’t changed his mind: a copy of the Ten Commandments hangs on the wall in his office even today.

Scott spent more than a decade on county council, after which his rise was nothing short of meteoric. Following the retirement of an incumbent state legislator, Scott won a seat in the statehouse in 2008. Another retirement brought a hard-fought battle for a U.S. House seat, which Scott won in 2010. Then in December of last year, Jim DeMint, the state’s beloved two-term Tea Party senator, announced he was retiring to lead the Heritage Foundation. South Carolina’s governor, Nikki Haley, had the power to appoint a successor, but a week went by, and Scott convinced himself that it would not be him. Then the call came at about 5 p.m. on Sunday night.

The announcement was made the next day, December 17, and on January 3, 2013, Scott was sworn in. Then came the transition. Scott moved out of his House office and into a larger Senate one, beefed up his staff from about 15 to 40, opened district offices back home, and held an official event in each of South Carolina’s 46 counties. “Essentially,” he says, “it’s like starting a brand new company.”

Because Scott was appointed to the Senate, South Carolina law requires that he face voters during the next election. Thus, Scott will be on the ballot in 2014 to win the final two years of DeMint’s term, and again in 2016, to win a first term of his own. So far, however, no Republican challengers have emerged. (Lindsey Graham, the Palmetto State’s senior senator, will also be on next year’s ballot, and has already drawn three challengers from the right.)

It’s not difficult to see why Scott has quickly become a beloved figure in the GOP. He’s a magnetic speaker, and his 15-minute speech at this year’s CPAC was, in this correspondent’s opinion, one of the finest. He’s a social conservative and an evangelical Christian who tells me he tries every day to be “a consistent witness of the faithfulness of a risen savior.” And during his time in both chambers of Congress, he built a strong conservative record. Voting against a raise in the debt ceiling last year. Fighting the National Labor Relations Board (“a rogue agency running amok”). Opposing the “Gang of Eight” immigration bill. (“There’s no doubt that we are a land of immigrants. But we are also a land of laws.”)

But the topic he seems to want to talk about most during our interview is education. “It’s very difficult to have real economic empowerment without a solid foundation of education,” he says. Scott supports charter schools and expresses skepticism that one brand of centrally directed public education can adequately serve all of America. But he says the conversation needs to go beyond that, and that everything should be on the table. He even suggests what is every self-respecting schoolboy’s worst nightmare: the abolition of summer break.

The Asian students who dominate fields like science, engineering, and math, Scott points out, spend many more days in school than do Americans. “So can we do in 180 days what other kids are doing in 243 days?” he asks. “Well, 63 days over 10 years, it makes a difference.” (With a proposal like that, we joke, he’s lucky the voting age is 18.)

The American debate over education is shot through with discussions of race: the history of forced busing, white flight from cities, the black-white education gap. But that’s not Scott’s focus. He doesn’t talk about fixing our urban schools; he talks about fixing all our schools.

As a rule, Scott wants nothing to do with Democratic racial politics—and he never has. When running for Charleston County Council at the age of 29, he told that city’s newspaper of record, the Post and Courier, that he didn’t consider himself a “black Republican,” but instead a “Republican who happens to be black.” The next year, 1996, he served as statewide co-chairman of Sen. Strom Thurmond’s re-election campaign. When asked recently how he could’ve worked for a man who’d once run for president on a Dixiecrat platform of segregation, Scott told the New York Times that Thurmond had repented: “The Strom Thurmond I knew had nothing to do with that.” After being elected to the House in 2010, Scott declined to join the Congressional Black Caucus, saying in a statement that “My campaign was never about race.”

Thus, Scott has little sympathy for others’ racial politics. When the Supreme Court struck down portions of the 1965 Voting Rights Act this summer, Scott sent out a statement celebrating the occasion. He points out the absurd heights to which federal officials have taken their oversight and says it results in wasted money. In January, for instance, the Justice Department sent an attorney from its civil rights division to monitor a city council special election in Branchville, S.C.—a town with roughly 800 eligible voters.

I ask Scott whether he ever gets sick of having these conversations, of being asked what it’s like to be (if you’ll pardon the phrase, Senator) a black Republican. He handles the questions deftly. First, a bit of disarming humor: “Most people want to know what it’s like to be a bald Republican,” he says.

Then a humble demurral: “Our country has been fascinated by race since the existence of the country. It’s been part and parcel of who we are. So it would be silly of me to say that, oh, I’m sick and tired of talking about race. Because we’re going to talk about race for the next 50 years as well.”

And then, finally, the strong, opinionated finish: “Do I like talking about race as a predominant factor in elections? Of course not. That’s why I think the VRA decision was an important one. Because life has changed over the last 40 years, especially in South Carolina. I’m only here because voters have changed and evolved as well.”

Source: http://spectator.org/archives/2013/10/31/great-sco tt/
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So much for that.

I'll only add that out of the 10,000 tons of poison gas Saddam had when the UN inspectors left, most of it has not been found, the part that we've recovered after Saddam buried some in the desert and shipped some off to Syria, is being dealt with by the Brits who are teaching the Iraqis how to run the WMD incinerator.

Still a lot unaccounted for.

Still curious about your opinion on current foreign policy.
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