| Author | Message | ||
     Xdigitalx |
more media words..., I mean turds. | ||
| Reindog |
That's funny. I see Ted Cruz and the Tea Party (not TP) as patriots trying to return America back to its Constitutional roots with a small Federal government. YMMV, apparently. PS: You are free to start your own thread about Ted Cruz, but this thread is about President O. | ||
| Macbuell |
So an elected official who does what his constituents want and what they elected him to do lacks integrity? Interesting but flawed observation. I would say the elected politicians that campaigned on a key issue but then failed to follow through on those promises lack integrity. And that is the opposite of what Cruz did. | ||
| Sifo |
I also realize that access to decent medical care and preventative treatment saves us all money in the long run. I'm just wondering if you realize that ObamaDontCare did nothing to change access to health care. Well, that isn't entirely true. Good doctors have voluntarily, and non-voluntarily, left the medical field. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
I am dumbfounded more and more every day of how/why people actually grab and hold on to the fecal matter that comes spewing out of the liberal/democrat congress and media mouths. | ||
| Sifo |
One other point, anyone who says the Supreme Court says ObamaDontCare is Constitutional, either has zero clue what they are talking about, or they are completely dishonest. They only looked at a very few specific points of the bill. It will get challenged many times in the years to come. There are many aspects that can and will be challenged. Of course, it's likely to collapse from it's own failures long before things run their course through the courts. | ||
| Sifo |
What has Republicans done to Bring Back "GOOD" Paying JOBS!? WHERE THE "F" IS THE JOBS!!!!! Perhaps that would be a good question for the party who has been in power for recent years.  | ||
| Sifo |
Meanwhile, in the real world... People are losing their jobs (as predicted BTW) because of... ObamaDontCare! Bonnie Doon Ice Cream blames Obamacare for shutdown | ||
| Alfau |
On a lighter side, He is up against it isn't He! http://safeshare.tv/v/fJuNgBkloFE | ||
| Sifo |
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| Reindog |
I don't care what you do in the privacy of your bedroom  but you have to explain Obama's "integrity" and what you mean by "extortion". I haven't seen a lick of either. You sure seem to drool over Obama even thought you protest otherwise. Did you vote for him in 2008? 2012? I got fat, sky-high stacks on this one saying that you voted for him at least once. | ||
| Sifo |
I got fat, sky-high stacks on this one saying that you voted for him at least once. My money is on 3 or 4 times! | ||
| Cityxslicker |
no no - he DID change 'access' to healthcare he just dumped Millions into the sector for new 'patients' .... but added statistically no new health care providers for the newly created demand. He did however add nearly 3500 NEW IRS agents since its inception 3 years ago. Enjoy. | ||
| Reindog |
Bring on the pain. Make Americans hurt so Obama can make a political point. Integrity, indeed. Enjoy your taxpayer paid vacation.  | ||
| Paul_regan |
Dear Dog and other inbred delusional rednecks If you didn't see the extortion attempt,then you are truly blind. Or in denial. Neither of which I can fix. I had a great boss back inthe day who used to say "you can't fix stupid". Thanks for reaffirming that I have never voted for President Obama. Attended both inauguration ceremonies; but did not vote for him. Wish I could prove that because I'm sure you won't believe me. And thanks for the reminder that Cruz did do something good. He gave me and all my federal co-workers a nice paid vacation - at your expense. Life is good! | ||
| Sifo |
Well pResident POS did demand more money or he would make things as painful for the people that he represents as possible. What is the definition of extortion? | ||
| Pwnzor |
Dear Dog and other inbred delusional rednecks ....said the kool-aid drinking, blind follower of the media. When your government job finally goes away and nobody will hire you for anything else, you'll line up for your hand outs. How does it feel to be insulted? Jerk. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Paul, why do you feel the need to insult thinking people who communicate differently than you? I'm a fiscal and constitutional conservative. Maybe because I'm an inbred delusional redneck. But maybe it is because I think spending money that future generations have to pay back is selling my children into economic slavery, and I think it is immoral to do so relative to them, and a great betrayal of the people of my country that gave their lives building it up and protecting it before I came along. I want health care for everyone. But I don't want to control other people and take away their freedoms. I don't know how to solve that problem at this point in history, and I think freedom is the most important (primarily because highly controlling governments have destroyed the lives of so many people in history). I am against the ACA because it seems to be a terrible plan. It breaks two parts of the current system that were working (medicaid and medicare for the people that really needed it, and the "company provided or individually purchased" insurance that was working for 80% or so of the population). It fixes the "pre-existing condition" clauses that were in policies. I consider that a net gain in some ways, there seemed to be some cases where insurance companies used that to escape some of their responsibilities. But it breaks other things, where someone can now just avoid buying insurance while they are healthy, then wait until they develop a disease that they *know* will cost the insurnace company more to pay for then they will pay to the insurance company, and then they will jump into coverage. So even that fixes some things and breaks others. But at the end of the day the ACA seems to be a disaster. It has inserted several more layers of bureaucracy in a system that was already collapsing under bureaucratic drag. It takes people that were unable or unwilling to buy insurance and leaves most of them without any coverage (but with a new tax that won't even cover the new bureaucratic drag in the system), it blows up plans and systems that were working OK for many people for some time (like my widowed neighbor that was buying catastrophic coverage for him and his daughter and now has his premiums doubled). Its a terrible plan. From a constitutional standpoint, the senate can pass laws, but the congress has to make decisions about new taxes and spending. Thats how the powers of government are divided. The Senate originated and passed a tax (if it isn't a tax, then the supreme court has specifically ruled that the individual mandate is illegal). The problem is the Senate is not legally allowed to originate a tax. So congress, rightly from a theoretical standpoint, defended the power of their branch of government. Politically, I agree it was bad in the short term for the Republicans, given many US citizens have fundamental misunderstandings about how our government works and how it's checks and balances operate. And given that the US media reports two sides of every issue, first they report why the conservatives are wrong, then they balance that with a story about why the liberals are right. :/ But legally, constitutionally, and from a long term standpoint, what happens to the country if the seperation of powers in the US government collapses? Can't you see how that could go really wrong for the country and it's people? Or you can go ahead and keep telling yourself that the people that disagree with you are inbred rednecks. Just like Democrats kept telling themselves black people were sub-human. Hopefully, conservatives can fix this mistake too, and fix the abomination of abortion that liberals have visited on our people. | ||
| Fb1 |
When your government job finally goes away and nobody will hire you for anything else, you'll line up for your hand outs. Federal workers are already getting their handouts, hence their blind loyalty to the King. 0bama is the Candy Man: In exchange for your vote (and any remaining shred of patriotism) you get free candy. All you can eat, any kind you want, 24/7, absolutely, totally, 100% free. Well, it's free providing some of us Americans bust our asses to pay for it. The attitude of some among the left reminds me of the definition of "Tory" as pertains to the American Revolution, you know, the thing we all celebrate every July 4th. I've asked, rhetorically, before: Do you suppose the 0bamas celebrate Independence Day? Another rhetorical question: If all the "non-essestial" FedGov workers who got paid vacations while John Adams, I mean, Ted Cruz, continued his crusade against the King, are truly non-essential, well, why are we giving them free candy in the first place? Enough rant, back to w*rk for me - I've got someone's free candy to pay for today...  Mobbing the Tories by American Patriots in 1775-76; the Tory is about to be tarred and feathered. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tory | ||
| Cityxslicker |
So now that funding is back on .... do we go to war in Syria or a Domestic Martial Clampdown. cue the Jepoardy theme music | ||
| Nik |
Federal workers are already getting their handouts, hence their blind loyalty to the King. There are plenty of federal employees whose loyalty lies with the constitution and not the office of the president. | ||
| Fb1 |
There are plenty of federal employees whose loyalty lies with the constitution and not the office of the president. I concur. I'm guilty of generalizing, but it was deliberate. Put another way: The FedGov, in total, is a bloated, wasteful, slothful, out-of-touch, out-of-control leviathan, consuming everything in its path to become, well, even more bloated and out of control. I just searched "Jabba the Hutt" on Startpage.com and 0bama's hate-filled face leered back at me. Can we agree that our federal government is wildly out of control? | ||
| Reindog |
You appear to be new to Badweb so some have heard the following before. The reason why I am here arguing is that I believe people CAN and DO change. I am proof of that. I was a lifelong Liberal Democrat until I gradually realized that the Federal Government was slowly creeping into extra-Constitutional territory and that profligate undisciplined spending would ultimately consume and destroy this great Republic called America. I remain socially Liberal and believe in maximum freedom and equal opportunity for individuals and business. I can party as hard (and usually harder) than most Badwebbers. I take you at your word that you didn't vote for Obama (which is your unquestionable right to do so) and I was simply trying to understand where you are coming from. You might want to try different language in your debating tactics as you have lost the debate by ad hominem attacks. There are lurkers here tickled by your epithets but deep down, they also know that you have lost. That said, stand up and argue your points. You are welcome here as long as you show respect for your fellow Buellers. | ||
| Sifo |
The problem with discussing this with Paul_regan is that he is drawing from facts generated in a parallel universe. Similar in ours in many ways, but with many key facts that just don't fit the reality that is our universe. Until we are discussion the same universe things just won't ever make sense. Of course, I don't really believe Paul is from a parallel universe. I also believe that he knows his "facts" aren't so factual. He also knows that if he continues with discussion, his facts will be shot down one by one and his position will be left with no foundation on which to stand. To put it another way...  I would be happy to be shown to be wrong on that last point BTW. | ||
| Reindog |
 I don't agree with what the following Monty Pythonesque cartoon is saying but it is funny nonetheless.  | ||
| Cityxslicker |
we really need a Holy Handgrenade of Antioche solution for DC..... and the breakfast cereals would be nice too | ||
| Strokizator |
". . . me and all my federal co-workers a nice paid vacation - at your expense", said the "non-essential" govt employee. That's gotta hurt the old self-esteem, huh? | ||
| Aesquire |
Alfau, That video is what your get with a few generations of leftist schools. Smart people, informed people are a threat to people who say things like "raising the debt ceiling doesn't raise the debt". http://reason.com/blog/2013/10/16/raising-the-debt -ceiling-still-has-nothi Actually learning history makes you a harder mark for those who lie to you, to gain power. He who preaches hate to gain power, is evil. It's sorta the definition. | ||
| Ulyranger |
Koolade is tasty......... That is all | ||
| Chauly |
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/ 14/obamacares-website-is-crashing-because-it-doesn t-want-you-to-know-health-plans-true-costs/ |
